the elessar

[Ivriniel]

Originally Posted by cellurdur

I think Gandalf might have read something in the records. He thoroughly was researching the ring and maybe he came across something, which the Stewards had long forgotten. Or maybe it was one of those small things that were revealed to him by Eru when he died.

Hey there Celludur

Yeah, could be--or perhaps Gandalf was (present) when the seed was planted? I'm imagining he had his eye on that ole tree? And maybe chatted to the then realmsmen to plant the seed for a rainy day. I wonder if he knew about when/why Galathilion bore a fruit. He was, after all, around when Telperion made a seed, and no doubt, this would have been one of those 'dinner table conversations' for Valinor. Some appreciation of the when, where and why the tree propagates may have been known to him, as the Maia he is.

I don't think it's any great mystery as to why Arwen would inherit the jewel through her mother. Once Galadriel had use of her Ring, she would not need the Elessar so why not pass it to her daughter.

Didn't Alatáriel give the Elessar directly to Aragorn?

Morgoth's corruption of Middle Earth was something he did before being forced into the void and is precisely why everything outside Aman is not quite what it once was. Black magic is drawing out the essence of Morgoth to perform 'magic' and is the only kind of magic men seem to be able to use.

What about the magic of Adunaic language users (the Blades of the Westernesse--barrow wights), Orthanc Stone etc, seemed to be free of 'taint' (but I get that generally, 'sorcery' was considered a black art and of Morgoth)....

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Pukel Men magic (there are some citations I have that refer to untainted protective 'stone magic' of Pukel Men).

During Aragorn's reign Gondor was greener and more beautiful than ever so it probably did. It probably not only renewed and revitalized the flora, but also the people. I imagine there was a great baby boom during the early part of his reign. Of course Aragorn would not have the power Galadriel, let alone Earendil had with the jewel.

This is pretty interesting. I wonder what it did about lifespan matters. I also wonder how old Aragorn's kids lived. I imagine their lifespan was restored to that of, nigh, Elros (five hundred and something)