Numenoreans attacking the Valar

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

I suppose it is a matter of personal taste. The Vanyar were the most blessed? Why, because they sat at the bottom of Taniquetil and adored Manwe with endless blind praise? What did they accomplish? They seem rather dull, don't they? I'll take Feanor any day over a bunch of righteous brown-nosers.

I was seeing it from their point of view rather than the reader's. The Vanyar have it best. However, I grant you that the Noldor are far more interesting to read about.

Originally Posted by Morthoron

Anytime one corrals folks for their own good, no good can come of it. It seems to me the major failing of the Valar was that they did not adequately eradicate Morgoth and his minions. They botched it on several occassions. And after each war with Morgoth, they left the people of Middle-earth alone to muddle through the mess the Valar left behind. Sauron managed to elude them twice, and the Valar ignored the fact, and basically ignored the struggling Children of iluvatar for huge stretches of time. Very sloppy in my opinion.

It appears to me that you would have your cake and eat it too. On one hand you bemoan the meddling of the Valar, and on the other, you bemoan them leaving Middle Earth alone. You can't have it both ways, my good sir.

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

It appears to me that you would have your cake and eat it too. On one hand you bemoan the meddling of the Valar, and on the other, you bemoan them leaving Middle Earth alone. You can't have it both ways, my good sir.

I was referring to two separate issues; therefore, I can have my cake with ice cream topped with hot fudge. ;p

The Valar's main fault is the haphazard manner in which they dealt with Morgoth and then Sauron, and I would suggest it was indeed their primary responsibility to secure Middle-earth against their evil encroachment so that the Children of Iluvatar could live their lives in peace. Had they managed to keep up pressure on the the two immortal baddies, there would have been no need to seclude the elves or the Numenoreans afterward. But it seems the Valar ran hot and cold: one minute they were hot for the chase, the next they sat on their celestial thumbs. Pretty poor stewards of Middle-earth in my estimation.