TIG XCIV– WHere the Stars Are Strange (Game thread)

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Anyway, following this logic, and this lack of luck, Dun, Pitch, or Legate (my top pick) must be the Acolyte, and the other two wolves.

What?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

What?

What? What's that face for? *blinks* Oh, I see. Fair enough, I suppose. I meant that one of them must be the Acolyte, while the other two are probably wolves. (Although good on you, mate. If I'd been a wolf, I would have omitted the comma there, the one between Acolyte and the wolves. Sharp eye, even though in this case it means nothing.)


Or, as they say in Limerick....

I see Steve-O has his eyes peeled
For anything we might reveal
Though my posts are bare
Of all lupine hair
I still must admire his zeal

[Eönwë]

Boro looks bad through association- either the wolves have latched onto him or he's one of them.

edit: forgot to click post, and now x-ed with the man himself

[Pomegranate]

Shasta: okay, the double-lynch-danger was me not counting the votes. Though technically, if of the rest one would've gone with you and then the three wolves would have voted for Eonwe, he would've gotten lynched. But I can see that's not exactly likely, so as I said, it's me not counting the votes.

And to your three reasons - the third does actually seem somewhat valid. However, to the first, I'm sorry what? Okay, it might be me not being able to read Inzil so theoretically I could've missed some signs he made, but I wouldn't say Rikae "mentioned it quite blatantly". All she said about him was that a) he wasn't contributing (in the beginning) and b)

Originally Posted by Rikae

I was going to vote for someone else, but the recent posts from

++Inzil

have a bad vibe to them, as if he's confident that he shifted the focus and can see one of the other suspects lynched. An innocent who dodged suspicion might be relieved, but would still be concerned about placing his own vote correctly and finding the actual wolves, and the tone of his posts seems off in light of that. In addition to my earlier suspicions it puts him in the lead.

which to me doesn't seem like screaming "He's acolyte!" , just a relatively simple suspicion from a person who doesn't know more than the ordos (though, obviously, whom we can trust).

And I still don't think that xem killing Eru shows surely and absolutely that acolyte's evil - xe has now killed on one night, and a person who didn't really contribute. It's really hard for me to believe that it would be as easy as a werebear. Even if xe's only on xeir own side, that doesn't absolutely mean his aim would be to kill us. It would be either too much for the village - having four wolves already - , or too hard for xem - if xe only kills once in a while, how on earth would xe possibly manage to get rid of all of us, both wolves and the villagers?

x/ed with Boro and Eonwe

[Inziladun]

I echo the thought that G55 was likely pegged as possibly the Captain, and targeted for that reason.

Originally Posted by Pomegranate

Legate. I was looking at him yesterday thinking, there's no reason an innocent person would react to Eonwe's revelation like that. I mean, yes, you can question that, you can 'not be sure' but if you don't know more than an ordo, I can see NO reason why you would dare that much with the life of our Seer. The only reason I could think for you acting like that would have been if you had been the real Seer and tried to save Nog without being exposed yourself. Now that we can be sure that's not the case, I don't think there's any explanation Legate could give that would make him less wolf-like in my head.

Legate's behaviour yesterDay regarding Steve's reveal was very similar to Nog's. And his pushing to have out any known, dreamed innocents right then just didn't seem like something someone as logical as Legate would do as an innocent.

Originally Posted by Pomegranate

And one thing I'd like to know is where did we decide that Inzil is the acolyte and the acolyte is bad? I mean, Nog started it, obviously to get us away from himself, but besides him I think Legate (which doesn't really surprise me) and Shasta went along with it. How were you so sure, Shasta? That does make you look a lot worse in my head, at least until you explain (as well as the fact you wanted to try for double-lynch, which is scary business in general).

I honestly have no idea why (innocent) people would be after me as the Acolyte.

We don't know what killed Eru Night 2, and we have no clear facts about the Acolyte's purpose or alignment. Period. My focus is on the Spies.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

2. Nog's points about it. The fact that he was a wolf doesn't really matter - the Acolyte doesn't count for the innocents or the wolves; plus, every indication was that the Acolyte was some type of Werebear, with the Eruhen kill. Wolves have an interest in getting rid of the Werebear - besides that the Werebear could kill them at night, something they aren't usually worried about, the Wolves and Werebear traditionally cannot win together. I don't think Nog's points about Inzil being the Acolyte should be discounted just because he was a wolf.

If the Spies are so concerned about the Acolyte, and they're convinced I am it, why didn't they target me last Night? Unless, as you're doing, they decided they could get me lynched toDay and save themselves another Night. Then Steve dies, and they have a clear path to victory.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

3. (and really the best point) - He hasn't denied it. Every time the subject has gotten a little too close to someone asking him directly, Inzil has either avoided the question or changed the subject.

Come on, is that really your "best" point?

Ok, I'm not the Acolyte. Satisfied?

x/d with Boro, Steve, and Pom

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Boro

And now, what I find curious, is Shasta tried a more subtle sew distrust about the acolyte yesterday.

Subtle? I thought I was being quite blatant. I don't trust the Acolyte, and I don't think anyone else should. Good try, Boro.

And another thing. Your post that was basically 'you just look so suspicious Nog' was way more over-the-top than anything I've said thus far. The similarity between that and how I remember Glirdan being was too uncanny for me not to mention it. You're really reaching incredibly far here.

Pom -

Originally Posted by Rikae

Now Inzil, come out and claim what you're trying to claim so we can all see how implausible it really is!

This is the post I was referencing when I said "blatant".

Originally Posted by Pom

And I still don't think that xem killing Eru shows surely and absolutely that acolyte's evil - xe has now killed on one night, and a person who didn't really contribute.

I recall Eruhen being quite a good contributor in the past. I think saying "oh, he didn't really contribute, that's all right then" is selling him a bit short - and the fact remains, the acolyte killed an innocent. Granted, we don't know for sure that it's going to happen again. But I for one think it's very likely. Why no one seems to be concerned about this is genuinely beyond me.

Originally Posted by Inzil

We don't know what killed Eru Night 2

Well, it wasn't a modkill (Nerwen would have said so) and it wasn't a wolf kill (that was Rikae in the narration), so...? I think that's pretty clear.

Originally Posted by Inzil

Ok, I'm not the Acolyte. Satisfied?

Cool. I don't believe you, but cool. Then what were you really doing Day 1?

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Well, it wasn't a modkill (Nerwen would have said so)

Actually:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Not telling.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Cool. I don't believe you, but cool. Then what were you really doing Day 1?

I've already been through that with Legate, ad infinitum.

I understand the Acolyte ought to be a concern, but it shouldn't be the primary concern.

Despite known Spy Nog's, and your exhortations that the Acolyte is a big deal, the Spies are a far greater deal. We don't, for all you say, know what the Acolyte does. We know precisely what the Spies do.

At the moment, if I had to vote, it would probably be for Legate or Shasta.

[Pitchwife]

On the question of Eruhen's death - no, we don't know for sure whether he withdrew or was killed by the Acolyte, and maybe Nerwen is just amusing herself by leaving us in the dark; but the mention of a shadow on the curtain in the narration seems to me to indicate that there was someone else involved in his death, and unless we have an invisible killer rabbit among us that Nerwen forgot to mention in the rules, that doesn't leave a lot of possibilities.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I've already been through that with Legate, ad infinitum.

But don't you see that your reluctance to discuss the Acolyte could make people wonder whether you had any personal stakes in the matter? And your complete silence when Rikae challenged you on it could be seen as telling in its own way.

Maybe you aren't in fact the Acolyte, but don't you see how somebody could get the idea?

Originally Posted by Eönwë

As I said before, Eru definitely wasn't the most shining example of innocentness on Day 1, so if the calling was caused by the Acolyte, I'd be inclined to say that xe has taken the side of the village.

Eruhen wasn't exactly the most shining example of anything on Day 1. With his totally unreasoned vote for Lommy and lack of contribution otherwise, I'd say his allegiance was pretty much a mystery, and deducting that his killer has taken the side of the village is rather a stretch.

That said, I must say I don't like Shasta's suggestion from yesterDay to lynch the putative Acolyte before Nog, because it would have left Nog's role, and thus the truth of Eönwë's dream, uncertain for another Day, giving the wolves time to concoct an emergency strategy, while risking to lynch an innocent instead. I can't see how that would have been helpful to anybody but the wolves.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Subtle? I thought I was being quite blatant. I don't trust the Acolyte, and I don't think anyone else should. Good try, Boro.

Subtle was a bad way of wording it.

I meant Nog was trying to scare us into not voting for him, by making some baseless ranting about the Acolyte being clearly aligned with the wolves. And therefor he was lynched, the Acolyte would attach to the 4 wolves and win the next day. Nog was using this to try to defend his innocence, but it's a completely irrational argument because if Nog was innocent there would be no way of knowing the Acolyte's allegiance.

Let me ask you, Shasta, if you are innocent. And say someone revealed as the seer you were a wolf. Obviously, you would know this person was lying. Would your reaction be to lynch the person who is obviously lying (and therefor must be a wolf), or argue some cracked up case about how the acolyte is clearly on the wolf-team and we will all lose if you're lynched? Surely you can see to try to scare us "Don't lynch me because you will die tomorrow" is extremely desperate.

And another thing. Your post that was basically 'you just look so suspicious Nog' was way more over-the-top than anything I've said thus far. The similarity between that and how I remember Glirdan being was too uncanny for me not to mention it. You're really reaching incredibly far here.

Sure. I was heavy handed in my Nog accusations yesterday, but you have to know that one must be over-the-top when dealing with Nog. No offense meant to him, but seriously, if you're going to have such a big ego shout "IT'S A DUO-TRIPLE-WOLF CONSPIRACY TO LYNCH ME LAST NIGHT!!" than you can't cry foul when I call bull crap on you. Seriously, I was reading Nog's reactions after Eonwe's initial case and kept shaking my head thinking "what makes you soooo important Nog that there is a massive pre-planned wolf strategy to push and get you lynched during?" Because, seriously, ask yourself. If you're a wolf, and you want to get rid of someone that desperately, you just night-kill the person. Really, wolves do not care who gets lynched as long as it's not one of them. So talk about an inflated ego when trying to make it seem like there is some wolf-pack conspiracy to get YOU above everyone else lynched.

For a moment, leave "Nog being Nog" out of it. And just look at his posts (even before Eonwe's reveal, but especially after too).

In 199. He launched some big duo-wolf conspiracy that G55 and Eonwe pre-planned a "lynch Nog" attack against him. Oh, sure he tried to make it look reasonable by saying stuff about only an "impatient soul" would believe this to be true. Yet, he spent 3 paragraphs essentially arguing, "this duo-wolf attack against me I don't believe it, but it soo tempting and compelling...oh but I don't believe it of course...oh but it's so tempting."

Now. If someone's reaction to suspicion is "Pity me, it's a conspiracy against me!" Would you say, looks more wolvy or innocent?

And in the posts of someone trying to defend him/herself, if he/she slings mud, would you say that looks more wolvy or innocent?. Don't try tell me Nog wasn't slinging mud, with this one:

I mean you who complain about Bom's lynch seem to forget that he could have been a wolf. Or you knew already he wasn't and then as wolves rant on us others who didn't know from supposed "moral-highground". *coughPitchieCough*

Come on. Talk about a cheap accusation, trying to use a "moral-highground" argument and wrap Pitch's name in cough. Oh, yes, real innocent that baselessly made junk accusation was

And if a person's reaction to anyone suspecting them is "they're all wolves! All the wolves are launching a plan to bring me down"...again look more wolvy or innocent?

I really don't mean to be a prick about this, but you honestly can't tell me Nog was being reasonable yesterday. The best way for me to deal with it is to call bull crap when I see it, and fight fire with fire. It's abrasive, it's combative, if you're innocent I will apologize to you afterward, if not I think you deserve it. Can't take the heat, get out of my kitchen.

Originally Posted by Shasta

Now I'm really getting annoyed. Apparently everything I say or do is going to be suspicious to someone. Also, Pitch, this is crap. Eonwe wasn't that suspected, there was no reason for an Eonwe-wolf to self-destruct by fake-revealing on D2.

Hogwash. After Eonwe's post going after Nog, both Greenie and Legate immediately commented that Eonwe looked suspicious because he looked "evil" in the way he was painting Nog black. Greenie voted for him. Nog ran with that and pretty much parrotted Legate and Greenie. And I also believe Lommy (before Eonwe's reveal) was siding more with Nog being innocent than Eonwe, based on Eonwe's strongly-worded post suspecting Nog. So. Yeah. That's more bull-pucky.

Edit: crossed since Shasta's post 318

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay - on general evaluation of what's happened toDay, I am growing steadily more suspicious of Shasta. It's not about his way of arguing, which is faulty in many ways (like many have already mentioned - e.g. the "Eonwe was not suspected yesterDay enough..." I can vouch for myself that I indeed had suspected him, and I recall there were many others) - that does not necessarily say anything about guilt; but mostly the fact that he had pushed for a second lynch going at the same point yesterDay with Steve, therefore threatening to threaten him (to make a double lynch).
Pitch also sums this up quite nicely from only slightly different angle:

Originally Posted by Pitch

That said, I must say I don't like Shasta's suggestion from yesterDay to lynch the putative Acolyte before Nog, because it would have left Nog's role, and thus the truth of Eönwë's dream, uncertain for another Day, giving the wolves time to concoct an emergency strategy, while risking to lynch an innocent instead. I can't see how that would have been helpful to anybody but the wolves.

With the arguing, it's not as much about the content, but the sort of stubborn form - or, in fact, there is also one of the argued-over issues: the Acolyte thing - still trying to make us convince that the Acolyte must be evil, which is not necessarily true by any means.

Not sure what to make of Boro, I am currently at loss about the whole subject, and he's incredibly wordy which makes it difficult to find any orientation. I still need to make up my mind about Inzil, what makes him better in my book is first his reaction to Eönwë - I think a Wolf would at least have tried whether he could not have been lynched (or mistrusted), the complete unquestioned trust wasn't also nothing special, of course - might have been that Inzil knew (as a Wolf) that Steve is innocent and thus knew to trust him... but then again also some of his latter posting does not look as bad. So I am not sure, sort of undecided about him currently.

Generally I agree with Pitch on a lot of things, only this (in regards to Inzil):

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

But don't you see that your reluctance to discuss the Acolyte could make people wonder whether you had any personal stakes in the matter? And your complete silence when Rikae challenged you on it could be seen as telling in its own way.

Maybe you aren't in fact the Acolyte, but don't you see how somebody could get the idea?

I think this is a bit of a stretch. If the question of Acolyte keeps being pushed on Zil (I don't recall even where exactly it started, but in any case, it hasn't left him since then), then of course it gets annoying and you don't want to talk about it. So this particular point... not really.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Now I'm really getting annoyed. Apparently everything I say or do is going to be suspicious to someone. Also, Pitch, this is crap. Eonwe wasn't that suspected, there was no reason for an Eonwe-wolf to self-destruct by fake-revealing on D2. Therefore, he was legit, his dream on Nog was legit, and at the time it was very likely (to me, apparently, but not to anyone else) that there was going to, again, be a second kill on N2, which I wanted to prevent. This bit about "wolves concocting an emergency strategy" is rubbish, as evidenced by the nine votes on Nog yesterday.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

The main reason it caught my eye, actually, is how Legate can post well-thought-out points like this and at the same time be as wildly off-kilter as he has been? My overall conclusion on this is while the point makes him look slightly better, the dichotomy makes him look worse.

Isn't it rather the sign of an innocent to have conflicting opinions about something? I mean, innocents, in contrary to some others, have no information whom to trust. I suspected Eönwë before, but I tried to post with the best intentions in mind, just as now. If you are following a certain pattern you set for yourself like a Wolf (e.g. "I will suspect person X, then I switch to person Y, then I will try to make the village lynch Z"), you usually post very "consistently" in the sense that all the time, the main intention sort of "behind" your behavior can be tracked as: "Yes, he wanted to lynch X." With innocent, the intention behind all the behavior should not be "He wanted to lynch X or Y", but "He wanted to do what was the best for the village from his current perspective." That's what I am doing. That's what I also often get suspected for.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Popping in for a second:

What does everyone think about me revealing the Ordo? When is the right time?

What I suggested previously: sometime late evening European time. Before you go to sleep, because then Americans will vote. Some people might vote earlier (Greenie often votes early, I have noticed), so might be even let's say in a couple of hours. Your call. I suggest letting post at least once most of the people first, but then whenever.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Maybe the Acolyte, being a "follower" or "learner" may make Option C the most likely, but it's still only speculation.

That option actually sounded very much likely to me. I'm quite willing to consider that as the real role of the Acolyte. Quite a lot, in fact. Because it makes perfect sense.

EDIT: x-ed with Sally and onwards

[Eönwë]

Ok, let's entertain the possibility that Boro is a wolf.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

What bothers me about Boro is the way he painted G55 suspicious. To me her strong reaction to Rikae's question for Lottie looked very sincere indeed (as I said already back there). So Boro's attack looked to me like a wolf noticing a possible pray who has made herself vulnerable, and jumping for it. It's hard to see evil in a game, but it felt like a malvolent intent there.

Ok, it's weird for Nog to start defending people this early, but even if we just ignore that, his next post which mentions Boro is this:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I might vote for G55 or Boro, possibly Eruhen.

Now, in this space of time, he's suddenly put G55 at the top of his suspicion list (I think I may have to make a separate post on her and Nog later), but then still hasn't re-evaluated Boro. Obviously, we know he's a wolf now, but it seems like he's trying to contrive an argument against Boro. The thing is, with his 180 on G55, I might be tempted to believe that it was an intentionally bad argument that he knew he wouldn't have to commit to, which only makes it look like there's friction between them.

In the post I mentioned before the vote-post, there's also this:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Now what Greenie said about him walking away from a suspicion by ignoring it and "taking Greenie out from vote list", and what Legate said about his overall over-lenient manner are points I think merit considering as well.

Not really sure about what to do with this, but it does just seem like he's again trying to pile on more unsubstantiated arguments.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

G55 and Boro do post and they can be read - and Eruhen has said all the time he was busy - so he'll have a chance to explain him toMorrow. So I think we are making a decent decision.

Not sure how that justifies it, but ok.



Now, this post on Rikae is where it begins to get more interesting:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Inzil clearly bears the brunt of her suspicion - and the vote in the end (even and maybe importantly notwithstanding that she says she was going to vote someone else!). She suspects Eönwë somewhat (only makes one point in one post though), seems to be engaged with Lottie and is pretty nasty with G55.

And then there is this odd thing about wabbits and coyotes & liking Greenie's vote on Boro - which whatever it means seems to suggest something about Boro.

So if someone felt Rikae was a threath enough to kill her it might have been Zil, Boro, or looking at how G55 reacts to things, then her (although she should have packmates to talk sense to her not to react like that). Or then someone just wished it to look that way.

So here, while he is saying that it could be a variety of people, with the wabbit/coyote thing, it looks very much like he is implying that Boro is the innocent one.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So... if she hunted Inzil or Boro (two that would have seen most likely by what happened yesterDay), then she failed aka. the one she hunted is not a wolf.

Now it is also quite possible - and maybe even probable - that being the crafty player she was, she was not hunting any of those she suspected aloud.

Whatever the case in regards to the former, it looks fairly certain she tried to make herself look like a hunter (if she thought enough many would have gotten that Looney Tunes hint). So she was luring the wolves to try her (in case the wolves were not in her suspicions so that they dared to try it).

So here he again mentions Looney Tunes (which again subtly connects it more to Boro, considering his previous post). Then he tries to claim that she may not have even left a hint at all. So it's as if he's saying that his official position is that she didn't leave a hint, but then he's left us with the undertone that if she did, it was Boro. And he further muddies the waters:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

One of the basic hunter-strategies I would think, two versions of it would be applicable here.

a) You think you know Rupert Murdoch is a wolf but you stay quiet about him. Instead you give hints you are a hunter and suspect Bill Gates a lot in the open. Now if Rupert is a wolf, he might think that is his chance to get rid of the hunter and *pow* he dies trying it in the Night.

b) You think you know Rupert Murdoch is a wolf and you want to keep him at bay during the Nights to be able to play more - so you make an open threat to him by hinting you're a hunter and suspecting him a lot. (The second one isn't probably the best tactics as it dangers the use of your gift, but people have used it as well)

Just for completeness:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I mean yes, I can say Boro could be innocent, or then Zil could be innocent, or maybe Steve because she said she will "keep an eye on him", or... Which one that ingenius hint gives us to figure out?

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I'll make a list of sorts before I go, but meanwhile I'd wish to hear from Eönwë and Boro to tell us which is their situation: the thoughtless overconfidence of a hindsight, or wolvery?

Despite apparently having him as his top suspect the Day before, this is the first time he directly asks Boro anything, or directly communicates with him. Seems fishy.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Boromir88: I'm suspecting him still even if he has been acting more Boroesque toDay. All this Rikae-stuff makes me doubt though. My reason says Rikae did not hunt him (why would she, after that open hinting?), but did Borowolf count on it being bluff (or was he afraid she was the seer?) or was it some others who tried to capitalise on the interpretation that we would then suspect Boro on her death (quite schemy and daring wolves then)? The way he revealed his wolfPOV, or hindsight POV, with Eönwë's suspicions on me he was only too happy to continue makes me wonder as well. If innocent he should have realised there was no way of knowing whether Bom was a wolf or an innocent beforehand on D1.

Ok, now I've revealed and he knows he's going to die at some point soon, and addresses me:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I thought it was odd G55 and you came after me with such fervour and determination (and Boro parrotting you). So I was right. You think you have that nice numbers that even if a ploy is revealed toDay there are enough confusion around that you win nicely even if this scheme of yours backfires.

Heh, I can see Boro's signature behind this... a bit distracted, not his sharp self... right.

There. Immediately Boro becomes top suspect. Completely separating them.

And mentioning this whole Night-suspicion plan... sounds like maybe they did plan it because they knew they were vocal players and would have to use it to their advantage, and so create a divide in the village on either side of them, with a false sense of competition on either side- both led by a wolf. Sounds like a bit of a risky plan though.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And on the other thought, it is possible that after G55's, Boro's and Eönwë's pre-decided effort seemed to fail (I have not seen the guys to answer my question about their accusations), Eönwë felt too much pressure (for a good reason as I think most everyone - other than the wolves - were thinking he was making himself more suspicious than me with his "case"), so he decided to go for a fake reveal without the counsel of the others...

Again, a pre-decided effort. He brings an innocent into this too, and so it may well serve the wolves better to put in a wolf among his "revenge innocents", i.e. ones that he wants to take out in return for being suspected.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

We can't afford to lose an innocent in principle, but there sure are some chances (the Acolyte might not have a kill every Night, the ranger might save someone etc.). If we lynch Eönwë toDay, we're one wolf down, and you get one more dream (I'd suggest Boro or G55) while the ranger protects you. Then we'd have a second wolf, most likely. But you can of course come forwards and reveal the falsity of Eönwë - especially if you have other good news to bring.

More in the same post, implicating both of them. Again, once he's dead, it will make it look like they're both innocents. And one will be. So why not put in your fellow to look good as well?


And there end his posts on Boro as his desperation goes to the extreme. So, what does this show? I don't know. But they definitely have a weird relationship in this game.



Also, Legate has looked pretty bad since yesterDay, and this this from Day 1:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Just for further reference - I wonder if, in case Lommy is perchance innocent and Boro is perchance Wolf, there might not be attempt to save Boro by people voting Lommy. But that shall be seen.

Depending on the level of double-bluffing involved, it could look bad for either Lommy or Boro, unless he's attaching himself to two innocents.



So yeah, rather than making me more certain of anything, looking at this has just confused me more. Draw your own conclusions, innocents.


edit: grammar

[Eönwë]

Legate and Lommy also have an intersting relationship in this game, but I don't have much time to look right now. I have an essay to do, and I might get to it after that.

[Eönwë]

Also, I don't like Shasta's fixation with the Acolyte. We don't even know that xe definitely killed Eru, and even if xe did, that doesn't make xem bad. As I said before, Eru definitely wasn't the most shining example of innocentness on Day 1, so if the calling was caused by the Acolyte, I'd be inclined to say that xe has taken the side of the village.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Also, I don't like Shasta's fixation with the Acolyte. We don't even know that xe definitely killed Eru, and even if xe did, that doesn't make xem bad. As I said before, Eru definitely wasn't the most shining example of innocentness on Day 1, so if the calling was caused by the Acolyte, I'd be inclined to say that xe has taken the side of the village.

"Don't like" it all you wish. I'm going to keep doing it. Someone has to, because apparently no one's worried that's it's not just wolves killing us but me. Therefore, while I'm still going to be looking for wolves, I'm likely going to continue pushing an Inzil lynch.