Can anything good come from Men?

[Kuruharan]

Originally Posted by Findegil

Also the sins comitted by the Noldor seem to be less heavy: They never dinied the existence of Eru nor tried to kill every body of their own kind that was not of the same oppion.

The elves were also more sheltered and taught by the Valar (at least the groups that made the journey).

That in itself may be a big part of my original question...foundationally it wasn't so much elvishness that was sought as the light from the teachings of the Valar.

Another point to be considered is that if orcs did come from elves then perhaps elves are capable of even greater falls than humanity.

(Yes, I know, Tolkien moved away from the idea...let me have my fun. )