WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nerwen · 07-28-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

On my way to sleep...

I need to revisit Nerwen, just for a short while. Promise.

I admit I was suspecting her for partly wrong reasons (for picking exactly Hades from all the other possibilities and thus being too fitting). The fact that it was just a play with "What the he**!" curse took that point off. But actually, like I said before, if she was Hades, it would make even more sense to use that cursing as the suspicions could be answered just the way she did - and to which both Rikae and tp pointed. So other than be less believable it turns out to be more believable.

Oh, well, I need to revisit Nogrod, just for a short while. Here we have another fine example of the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" reasoning to which I alluded yesterDay.

Thing is, Nog, I've been trying to think back to past games, and as far as I can remember, when you've played like this before, you've generally been a wolf. I well remember what I dubbed your "heads he's furry, tails he's a wolf" case on skip spence.

Or are you indeed just jet-lagged?

I agree, though, that it might be worth lynching Steve to see what he is. But then tum is looking increasingly wicked...

EDIT:X'd with a host.

Macalaure · 07-28-2010, 10:55 PM

Well, if Eonwe is neither wolf nor cursed, as I suspect, at least I will have plenty of good suspects toMorrow.

Rikae · 07-28-2010, 10:59 PM

Makkie, you forget that I'm supposed to fight off a lynch mob tomorrow.

Rikae · 07-28-2010, 11:00 PM

Now, really, the stupid novel. Where was I...

Macalaure · 07-28-2010, 11:00 PM

After those two votes, you probably deserve that, love.

Rikae · 07-28-2010, 11:03 PM

I could use the exercise. They'd better bring handcuffs.

autume98 · 07-28-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

After those two votes, you probably deserve that, love.

Now that just cracked me up!

Macalaure · 07-28-2010, 11:05 PM

8 people and me left to vote. Anybody have preferences other than Eonwe?

the phantom · 07-28-2010, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac

Well, if Eonwe is neither wolf nor cursed, as I suspect, at least I will have plenty of good suspects toMorrow.

Which is reason 1A why I have defended him while not outright campaigning for him. Reason 1B is that I have little better to offer. I mean- Nog in my opinion has been really odd with his logic and arguments this game, but being wrong doesn't make him evil. Your target, Lottie- I'll admit that I have no feelings whatsoever. She's one of the ones that has fallen through the cracks of my mind thus far.

And would you stop using that L-word! Haven't we had enough fun with hints today?

(x-posted with a few)

Macalaure · 07-28-2010, 11:08 PM

I'd love to, but I just can't help it.

the phantom · 07-28-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac

Anybody have preferences other than Eonwe?

Not anything strong. But there might be a couple I'd roll the dice on if you wanted to give them a try. One of the low-posters? Nienna maybe? I dunno. You said Lottie earlier- heck why not? And what do you think of Nog? Wait and see if he's right first, or push him to the brink?

(x-post Mac, who posted ANOTHER hint *makes note to guess Mac as Hades tonight*)

autume98 · 07-28-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Not anything strong. But there might be a couple I'd roll the dice on if you wanted to give them a try. One of the low-posters? Nienna maybe? I dunno. You said Lottie earlier- heck why not? And what do you think of Nog? Wait and see if he's right first, or push him to the brink?

Funny that you should mention Nienna. I had gone back through her posts earlier today and there wasn't much there. However that can be said of a few people at this time.

And I already covered thoughts about Lottie and Nog.

Edit: x-ed with Nerwen

Macalaure · 07-28-2010, 11:20 PM

I'd rather give Nogrod the benefit of a good night's sleep. Nienna I'd be willing to try.

Nerwen mentioned Autume. I'm not so keen on that.

autume98 · 07-28-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

I'd rather give Nogrod the benefit of a good night's sleep. Nienna I'd be willing to try.

Nerwen mentioned Autume. I'm not so keen on that.

I'd be willing to give Nienna a try too, and for some reason I'm not too keen on going after me either.

Edit: x-ed with Lottie

autume98 · 07-28-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Which is reason 1A why I have defended him while not outright campaigning for him. Reason 1B is that I have little better to offer. I mean- Nog in my opinion has been really odd with his logic and arguments this game, but being wrong doesn't make him evil. Your target, Lottie- I'll admit that I have no feelings whatsoever. She's one of the ones that has fallen through the cracks of my mind thus far.

And would you stop using that L-word! Haven't we had enough fun with hints today?

Maybe I haven't played with Nog enough yet. It seems as thought a few people have made comments about him acting strange. So I could be wrong about him.

As for Lottie, I haven't heard enough from her outside of her gunning for Mac and me. I think I'd like to know more about her reasoning and let her explain herself before I go after her.

Anyone else is pretty much fair game. I don't feel strongly about anyone at this point.

Edit: x-ed with both of tp's posts

the phantom · 07-28-2010, 11:11 PM

The Tally:

Greenie ==> Mac
Shasta ==> Nog
Kath ===> Nog (2)
Lalaith ==> Eonwe
Nog ====> Eonwe (2)
Wilwa ==> Eonwe (3)
Nienna ==> Eonwe (4)
Inzil ====> Eonwe (5)
Rikae ===> Rikae

Loslote · 07-28-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

There's the enigmatic number -4. Was Boro trying to hint he was not that big a baddie or just trying to protect himself not going outright naming him -10 or somethig? I don't know.

Really, I think that was more of a continuation of an elegant but efficiant way of describing role value. I don't think it was a Seer hint.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

I mean someone you just dislike might be a goodie and someone you love might be a baddie. (coughWilwaSallycough)

I do NOT play favorites. You can say that I become obsessive in my suspicions. This is true. You can say that I can easily be wrong in these obsessive suspicions. This is true. You can say that I have a tendancy to be silly. This is true. But you CAN NOT say that I play favorites. I do not pass someone I "love" (there's that word again - are you hinting, Nog?) as innocent without a second glance. I do not automatically call for those I "dislike" to die. As a matter of fact, I do not "dislike" anyone playing in this game.

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Originally Posted by autume98

Well Mac wanted to actually go for a wolf. I was cool with that. We weren't getting anywhere by suspecting each other. So I left him alone. Besides I knew at this point there was no way I'd be able to lynch him.

Yes Eonwe only had 4 votes and BG had 5. And if I voted for Eonwe then they both would've had 5. So by voting for BG I was doing what I could to keep Eonwe yesterDay as I wanted BG gone more than I wanted Eonwe gone. Does that make sense?

Wait, wait. So you were fine with Mac because he wanted to go hunt for wolves, and you instantly give up on wolf-hunting to pick between innocents?

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

ToDay she starts with suppressed anger and a new list, which looks suspiciously like the old one, except that Nogrod is suspicious now, too. She backs off me a little bit. She suspects Nogrod because he didn't vote for Eonwe. Not exactly a great argument, but alright, except that she could have made the same point yesterDay, after his vote, already. But yesterDay she was content to carry only Tum and me around.

In case you didn't notice, that post where I said to look at Nog if Steve were lynched did make that point yesterDay. I would have posted more, but you see, I really didn't have time. I mentioned that I wouldn't really be around. Don't you read what others post?

Anyways, I'm sure I've xed with tons of people. The last bit I saw was people thinking about lynching me. All I can say is:

Do it. Really, go ahead. I'm not upset, I'm not tired of the game in any way, and this is not said in anger. I wouldn't mind being lynched.

autume98 · 07-28-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

Wait, wait. So you were fine with Mac because he wanted to go hunt for wolves, and you instantly give up on wolf-hunting to pick between innocents?

Here's the post where I explain in more detail why I choose BG.

Edit: x-ed with Eonwe, tp, and Eonwe again

Macalaure · 07-28-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

In case you didn't notice, that post where I said to look at Nog if Steve were lynched did make that point yesterDay. I would have posted more, but you see, I really didn't have time. I mentioned that I wouldn't really be around. Don't you read what others post?

I didn't overlook it, of course. You overlooked that I commented on it.

Anyway, you said you would look for Nogrod depending on Eonwe's innocence. Eonwe did not get lynched, and your reasons for Nogrod toDay are independent of Eonwe's role, but are founded on Nogrod not voting for him. The case you presented toDay was readily available yesterDay.

You only picked this one item out of my reasons to suspect you. I usually do that when I'm a wolf: picking the few things I can defend myself against to discredit a whole analysis.

Nerwen · 07-28-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

The last bit I saw was people thinking about lynching me. All I can say is:

Do it. Really, go ahead. I'm not upset, I'm not tired of the game in any way, and this is not said in anger. I wouldn't mind being lynched.

??? Is this a conundrum?

autume98 · 07-30-2010, 08:25 PM

So I went to do my analysis on Rikae. For the most part she comes across as innocent. And it's my experience that when she comes off innocent she's really a wolf. I also didn't like her votes. She admits that her vote for phantom would be a throw away vote and then does it anyway?

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Hm, so apparently the narration will indicate when the cursed is turned - the ModGod has spoken. In that case, there really is no reason to go lynching Steve now.
I don't really want to vote for BG, since as far as I'm concerned she's done just as little to show she's a wolf as to show she isn't - but I still might vote for her for plain old lack of participation and sleeping under the reindeer. My other suspects are Nerwen, but I still think it's quite likely what she said was IC banter and I wouldn't like to lynch her for that; Phantom, but he hasn't explained himself and it would be a throwaway vote anyway, and Wilwa, simply because of the way she seemed to be trying to stir up suspicions around Boro's remarks while keeping her hands clean, so to speak, but again, that would be a throwaway.

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Originally Posted by Rikae

I'm not going to vote BG because, well, it seems a little harsh at this point. The point about not participating has been made, and I don't see her as especially wolfish. I also don't see much purpose in voting for Steve: he hasn't had a chance to explain his "hint", and, if it was, he's on our side for now and we'll know when he isn't. Instead, I'm just going to do something that really should be done more often on day Ones everywhere:

++the phantom

For being the phantom.

Yeah. That felt good.

And then Day 2 she does another throw away? Now I'm no experienced player by any stretch of the imagination, but this just seems wrong. I would expect a more experienced player to not throw away their votes two days in a row.

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Nope, don't really buy the theory that Autume's a wolf.

Don't buy the theory that Mac's a wolf.

Definitely don't buy the theory that Steve is a wolf.

I, however, am the wolfiest wolf that ever howled at the moon, therefore:

++Rikae

Seriously, I really hope toMorrow we can focus a little attention into the dark corners of this village, instead of on the over-examined and probably innocent loudmouths - and I have a novel to finish, so tschüss.

Edit: x-ed with all posts from #682

Rikae · 07-30-2010, 08:37 PM

Tum, dear, it's kind of difficult to make an influential (that is, non-throwaway) vote in a village that is bandwagoning as much as this one has. You can make a throwaway vote or you can join the bandwagon, and I'm not one to jump on a bandwagon simply because it's there.

But I think you know that perfectly well, don't you? Nice try, though, wolfiepie.

autume98 · 07-30-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Tum, dear, it's kind of difficult to make an influential (that is, non-throwaway) vote in a village that is bandwagoning as much as this one has. You can make a throwaway vote or you can join the bandwagon, and I'm not one to jump on a bandwagon simply because it's there.

But I think you know that perfectly well, don't you? Nice try, though, wolfiepie.

So why not vote for someone you find slightly suspicious?

Rikae · 07-30-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by autume98

So why not vote for someone you find slightly suspicious?

Oh, you mean one of those multiple candidates for lynching we had the last couple Days?

Inziladun · 07-30-2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by autume98

So why not vote for someone you find slightly suspicious?

You mean like Mac, who you said was your top suspect Day 1, then you voted for BG?

autume98 · 07-30-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

You mean like Mac, who you said was your top suspect Day 1, then you voted for BG?

I thought I already hashed this out. If what I did was wrong it was a newbie mistake.

07-28-2010, 11:11 PM	#16
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	The Tally: Greenie ==> Mac Shasta ==> Nog Kath ===> Nog (2) Lalaith ==> Eonwe Nog ====> Eonwe (2) Wilwa ==> Eonwe (3) Nienna ==> Eonwe (4) Inzil ====> Eonwe (5) Rikae ===> Rikae __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

07-28-2010, 10:55 PM	#2
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Well, if Eonwe is neither wolf nor cursed, as I suspect, at least I will have plenty of good suspects toMorrow.

07-28-2010, 10:59 PM	#3
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Makkie, you forget that I'm supposed to fight off a lynch mob tomorrow.

07-28-2010, 11:00 PM	#4
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Now, really, the stupid novel. Where was I...

07-28-2010, 11:03 PM	#6
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	I could use the exercise. They'd better bring handcuffs.

07-28-2010, 11:05 PM	#8
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	8 people and me left to vote. Anybody have preferences other than Eonwe?

07-28-2010, 11:08 PM	#10
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	I'd love to, but I just can't help it.

07-28-2010, 11:20 PM	#13
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	I'd rather give Nogrod the benefit of a good night's sleep. Nienna I'd be willing to try. Nerwen mentioned Autume. I'm not so keen on that.

07-30-2010, 08:37 PM	#22
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Tum, dear, it's kind of difficult to make an influential (that is, non-throwaway) vote in a village that is bandwagoning as much as this one has. You can make a throwaway vote or you can join the bandwagon, and I'm not one to jump on a bandwagon simply because it's there. But I think you know that perfectly well, don't you? Nice try, though, wolfiepie.