WW LXXV: It's Always Tea Time Here

[Shastanis Althreduin]

To sum up... after looking at all of them, Nerwen, Legate, and Agan all have points against them... and I'm honestly not sure which are bigger! But I'd like to reiterate that I would support a winty lynch today - if he's innocent he's at most unhelpful and at least distracting, and if he's a wolf he's flying totally under the radar and going with the majority, which is a pattern I've seen from him all game.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Yes, but in the situation you're describing, Skip's life actually was in danger, where Nerwen wasn't in quite as dire straits, so... I'm not sure where you're going with this.

Well, but that does not matter so much, the point is psychological. If a Wolf saw these and compared it, it might have been a signal giving him/her the idea "Ha! A special role afraid for his life!" Of course it does not have to be so, but I can imagine it as a possibility. Anyway, we are not going to learn for sure anyway, it was just a possible explanation.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

To sum up... after looking at all of them, Nerwen, Legate, and Agan all have points against them... and I'm honestly not sure which are bigger! But I'd like to reiterate that I would support a winty lynch today - if he's innocent he's at most unhelpful and at least distracting, and if he's a wolf he's flying totally under the radar and going with the majority, which is a pattern I've seen from him all game.

Well there is still the thing that he might not just show up to vote and be modfired or something... while it's all possible that he might be an under-the-radar Wolf, right now at least from my part I will focus on those who are around, and for whom there are actually some grounds to suspect (whereas for WW there is merely his popping up and voting, which, in a way, would be enough, but then again, it's rather random too). And yes, WW does not deserve to win if he's just popping in and voting, so well... if it comes down to three people or something, and he is one of them, then it might be a hard decision, but...

Nay, right now, I am starting to grow worried of Agan a bit, especially still bearing in mind her voting list. And Nerwen's last posts have unnerved me too. Shasta has been posting generally rather unsuspiciously recently, but that might be just a good way of slipping unnoticed.

If I were to say, I'd assume the Wolf being somewhere there - or it being Winty. There is still the sort of unanswered question in the back of my head about Nerwen, she didn't look as suspicious to me yesterDay but now she again started to. It would be sort of facepalm-thing if she was the Wolf and remained alive until the last Day just because of the overturned lynch a few Days ago.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

My point was that, if winty is the last wolf, and wins, we can say "oh he didn't deserve to win" all we like, but it doesn't change the facts. Quite simply it bothers me that all he's been doing is bandwagoning while the rest of us argue amongst ourselves, and I think if we're ever going to do anything about him, we should do it soon. I disagree completely with Lommy and Agan in that regard.

I know,and I don't like it either– if he's a wolf it's definitely borderline-cheating– but if we lynch him, I think it pretty much has to be toDay. And that would make him the third person in a row we've lynched more out of curiosity than anything.

Also, do the Night-kills really seem like the work of a clueless newbie to you? I'd guess that if winty is a wolf, we've got two. (Unless he's either very lucky, or just playing dumb.)

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Yes, but in the situation you're describing, Skip's life actually was in danger, where Nerwen wasn't in quite as dire straits, so... I'm not sure where you're going with this.

No, actually my life was in danger at that point.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Are you perchance missing a word there or something? ("she has...?")

No. What I mean is, "pursuing me to the the extent that she has". Does that make sense to you now?

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

In any case, this post of Nerwen's does not give me much of a good impression in general - it's rather, well, ineffective (in the sense: what is it good for?). My initial thought was being reminded of the desperate Wolves who make their last post before dying where they accuse everyone (see Sally's post before her death - basically the same, except for the famous line "Inzil is innocent, I just know it" or stuff like that).

You meanthis post? Where Sally is at pains to say basically nothing about anyone? (Except Zil.)

No, Legate it's not at all like that. Sally was a wolf who was very likely trying to look like the Seer. I'm an innocent who is trying to sort things out for myself by listing the points against each player. Not bad points, either, I think.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

No, actually my life was in danger at that point.

I wasn't disputing that, but you dying at that point would have required a concerted effort by three different people (I think), and Skip was already tied for the lead at the time he voted (again, if I'm wrong, correct me ).

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

No. What I mean is, "pursuing me to the the extent that she has". Does that make sense to you now?

Ah, okay. Now I get it.

You meanthis post? Where Sally is at pains to say basically nothing about anyone? (Except Zil.)

No, Legate it's not at all like that. Sally was a wolf who was very likely trying to look like the Seer. I'm an innocent who is trying to sort things out for myself by listing the points against each player. Not bad points, either, I think.

Okay, point taken. But even with that Sally's posts, Wolves do things like that in general (and often in far subtler ways, of course).

That said, the fact that you don't want to lynch ww, even though it might be a possible candidate with some support, makes you again look better in my eyes... unless you two are comrades now... I would expect a Wolf to be a lot more open to a possible lynch, especially if under suspicion.

[Brinniel]

I think you guys are misunderstanding my lynching Nerwen to "ease my mind" comment. I don't want to lynch her out of curiousity. I am suspicious of her and have reasons to be. Lately some of Nerwen's behaviour has made me to slightly doubt my suspicion, but then again Nerwen can be a very clever wolf...she has won as a lone wolf before and looked completely innocent up until the end. If I allow her not-so-suspicious behaviour convince me not to vote her, then I'm afraid we'll later find out she is a wolf and lose because I didn't vote her. I would never forgive myself...and would probably end up smashing my head against the wall until it explodes. If Nerwen is lynched and turns out innocent, yeah that really sucks, but I wouldn't be killing myself over voting her because I did, after all, find her wolfish.

Btw, I will not support a winty lynch. I'm not saying he can't be a wolf, but it seems much more unlikely, and I do not want another Day with an easy lynch that could get us nowhere. If we lynch winty and he's innocent, then we've basically lost the game because we'll be in the same position toMorrow as we are toDay.

I have class in ten minutes and don't have much time to say more. I won't be back until less than an hour before deadline, so I'm afraid you won't be hearing a lot from me. I do wish I could look at everyone better because I'm feeling paranoid as of late, but I just don't have the time.