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Old 11-09-2009, 06:02 PM   #1
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Oh, and Noggie? Go to bed.

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Old 11-09-2009, 06:57 PM   #2
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How about an alternative candidate?

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Just to keep things interesting, you understand.
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:01 PM   #3
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I must say, I like it a lot better, considering the following.
  • Killing Roa means not killing Sally.
  • Killing Roa gives a chance of killing a wolf; killing Sally dooms us all. (Barring a stellar ranger save, of course, which won't be bloody likely even if I am alive.)
  • Killing Roa could answer some interesting questions.
  • Killing Roa means not killing Sally. (I know, I said that one already, but it's the big one for me so nyah.)


Anyway have to leave soon but may try an analysis. We'll see how it goes.
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:09 PM   #4
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(Barring a stellar ranger save, of course, which won't be bloody likely even if I am alive.)
Well, you've as good as revealed now, so you might as go all the way and see if any alternative candidates come forward.
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:18 PM   #5
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Well, you've as good as revealed now, so you might as go all the way and see if any alternative candidates come forward.
"You're trying to trick me into giving something away. It won't work."

"It has worked. You've given everything away!"



Which is to say, bwah? I'm just saying that ranger saves are enough of an art and if we get a wolf toDay (as opposed to getting lil old ordo Sally) we don't have to cross our fingers and hope the Ranger Fairy comes through.




Also, why do you and Nerwen both have little red things in your avvies? I'm not saying it's for the game (necessarily) but I noticed it and was curious. Reason?



Drat. I went through all Brinn's posts but haven't typed up reactions yet and I have to leave in a bit. I'll have to get it done when I get back but if I remember correctly I actually found something quite intriguing. More on that later.


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Old 11-09-2009, 07:46 PM   #6
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Since Sally's beating around the bush with 'I'm-not-saying-I'm-the-Ranger-but-I-really-want-you-all-to-think-I-am', let's have this out: I am the Ranger.

It's getting pretty late in the game here. We still need three wolves. If I can aid at all in helping the village to focus on the wolves, I'll do so. And I think this may accomplish that. I'm well aware of the consequences, believe me. I'm quite willing to go down for the village if it means bagging a wolf. And Sallywolf could well lead you all to the others.
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:57 PM   #7
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Dun Dun Duuuunn!

Anyone else want to step forward as a putative Ranger?

Sally, we wear poppies at this time of year in remembrance of those who have given their lives for their country - see the Royal British Legion's Poppy Appeal.

Nice to see Nerwen sporting one too.
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I'm thinking of voting Sally, but here's my problem. Inzil is heavily after her, and from here he looks, if not exactly guilty, at least the guiltiest of the McCaber voters. See his posts at #369, #385, where he seems to be suggesting that McCaber is perhaps being framed.

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Like I said, I don't believe anyone could reasonably argue McCaber has not been suspicious. At the very least he has been consistently unhelpful.
I think this is the last thing he's said toDay thus far.
  1. Originally Posted by McCaber
  2. I'm here too, by coincidence.

Nothing else. I know he's quite adept at being a quiet wolf, so why does this give me an uneasy feeling, like I'm overlooking something?
Trouble is, I don't know who else would be better. Roa's interactions with SPM on Day 1 could look more sinister, knowing what we know now. And the vote toDay doesn't help. It could indeed have been out of frustration with this vexing situation, but still....
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I see SPM made good on his earlier threat to vote Roa for threatening his beloved with lynching.

So we have votes for McCaber (2), Roa (2), and Fea (1).

I don't trust Roa at the moment, but SPM's vote can't be considered an indication he thinks she might be a wolf, because we have no way of knowing which side he's taken. However, there are still more innocents than wolves, I think, so it's in the lovers' interests to help the village.
[B]McCaber just seems too easy. If innocent, he's perfect for wolves[/B], because he's really does look like he could be a sly wolf cruising through quietly, while so much else has occupied our attention, as Nerwen said.
This could well be the vote that makes or breaks the game, so I'd really like to get it right.
Now Sally's gone for Roa. I wonder if there's anything to the way she made sure to note that she meant 'we' to refer to the village. I think her meaning would have clear without that.
Innocent trying to puzzling things out? Wolf making a last attempt to bring in another candidate? It could be either, and if the latter he was certainly very subtle about it, and everything he says is perfectly reasonable. But still, it makes me a bit uneasy...

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Oh, that was rather a wicked-looking comment of Sally's... I wonder if she could be one of them? Not really much for or against it, but that's because she's been a submarine.

Meanwhile, the two most obvious lynch-candidates are Roa and McCaber, and in different ways both of them look a bit too easy... but then anyone else would be almost random.

The thing is, I think if Roa is a wolf, that implies McCaber is too, anyway, because otherwise he would be a nice, easy lynch for her.
Upon which he promptly voted McCaber.

Innocent who'd had his doubts answered? Wolf who realised he couldn't save his fellow without giving himself away? Again, could be either.

There's nothing whatever sinister about his vote, mind you– at the time he cast it, it broke the tie between McCaber and Roa. Recall that the third vote on Roa came in exactly at DL, and was from Fea, who had apparently disappeared hours before.

(Note that we don't know Roa's role, however.)

EDIT:X'd since SPM at #435. (I had to do some stuff in the middle of composing this and forgot to refresh before posting.)
EDIT2:fixed bolding, added comment.
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:55 PM   #9
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Ah, competing reveals! No WW game is complete without them!
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Ah, competing reveals! No WW game is complete without them!
Indeed. And instead of being 99% certain of my opinion of Sally, I am entirely certain.
There it is. Believe who you will.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:16 PM   #11
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Okay, I'm here. Inzil as Ranger. Actually makes sense. I was thinking it was Pitchie, but noooo...

Roa: I didn't get my analysis done yesterDay, but I did find a lot suspicious in her posts. For example: her first post yesterDay said that she'd prepared a big posts yelling at Lari and then was surprised that Lari'd died.
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Dun Dun Duuuunn!

Anyone else want to step forward as a putative Ranger?

Sally, we wear poppies at this time of year in remembrance of those who have given their lives for their country - see the Royal British Legion's Poppy Appeal.

Nice to see Nerwen sporting one too.
Ah, but I'm Australian. We have a Poppy Appeal too. (To tell the truth, it's news to me that Americans apparently don't.)

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I'll try to elaborate about my ruminations on McCaber, but there really wasn't much to it: I wasn't sure. He seemed like a very likely wolf, but I've read him wrongly before for his general low-key style. I thought about it quite a while, and was basically talking to myself in those posts. In the end, I thought he was a better shot than Roa at the time.
Fair enough. I like your reveal better than Sally's anyway. What, really, is the point of a gifted doing a three-quarter reveal like that? None. But it gives a wolf the chance backtrack later.

EDIT:X'd with two Loslotes.
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Sally: Suspicious. There's very little doubt in my mind that she's Were.

Roa: I'm nearly certain she's a wolf.

SPAM and Fea: Annoyingly unhelpful, but it is their role.

Nog: Probably innocent. In any case, I have much graver doubts about many others - I'm not going to look too closely at him toDay.

Nerwen: *see Nog*

Inzil: I'm willing to accept his reveal for now. Unless someone else comes forward, he's clear in my mind.

Brinn: My top candidate for Third Wolf. She pointed suspicion at me and Nerwen for no real reason. Her vote on Day Two could easily have been wolf-on-wolf, because it was a safe vote and there was no real support for that yet.
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Well. I think I'll just go this route. I can retract later if necessary (ie: if somebody contradicts his reveal in a believable manner).

++Zil

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Deadline! Sally shall be dying of huggles from the moddesses. She was an ordo.

The Living:
Brinn
Fea
Inzil
Loslote
Nerwen
Nog
Roa
Saucepan Man

The Dead:
Mira - moddess, death by Red Masque Night 1
Nienna - co-moddess, death by Red Masque Night 1
Morsul - Hunter, lynched Day 1
Hakon - Seer, suffocated and stuck up chimney Night 2
Boro - werebear, throat slit Night 2
Wilwa – Ordo
Grennie – Cobbler, Lynched Day 2
Lari- Ordo, death via fabulous narration on Night 3
McCaber - wolf, lynched Day 3
Pitchwife - ordo, killed Night 4
sally - ordo, Day 4 lynch

It is now Night 5.
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I'll try to elaborate about my ruminations on McCaber, but there really wasn't much to it: I wasn't sure. He seemed like a very likely wolf, but I've read him wrongly before for his general low-key style. I thought about it quite a while, and was basically talking to myself in those posts. In the end, I thought he was a better shot than Roa at the time.
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