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Inziladun · 06-22-2009, 11:32 AM

Another thought about Gwath- didn't he miss the vote yesterDay? In fact, I don't remember seeing him at all, and there was apparently no explanation for his absence. Would a wolf do that at this late stage?

Boromir88 · 06-22-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Another thought about Gwath- didn't he miss the vote yesterDay? In fact, I don't remember seeing him at all, and there was apparently no explanation for his absence. Would a wolf do that at this late stage?

Maybe, maybe not...I've seen it from others, it just depends on the mate.

Although I think now is a good time to double-kill and get some information. It may at least give us an idea of what we are up against, and see just how pessimistic we really should be.

Sally looks like she's having fun and being silly...not sure that's a good sign.

But I think you know where I stand. If not Mac could tell you

Mithalwen · 06-22-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Another thought about Gwath- didn't he miss the vote yesterDay? In fact, I don't remember seeing him at all, and there was apparently no explanation for his absence. Would a wolf do that at this late stage?

The woves missed a kill - this may have been a ploy though not one all mods would allow (observation not criticism nb). If it weren't a ploy this suggests a certain level of disorganisation/ absenteeism among the pack. I hope that we may have disposed of one at least but we can't bank on it.

Kath · 06-22-2009, 12:12 PM

And I'm back at last. Apologies for yesterDay, apparently green on a black screen does not agree with lightheadedness! So, I'm off to read through yesterDay and toDay so far, have some dinner, then post!

satansaloser2005 · 06-22-2009, 12:13 PM

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And I'm back at last. Apologies for yesterDay, apparently green on a black screen does not agree with lightheadedness! So, I'm off to read through yesterDay and toDay so far, have some dinner, then post!

Look! She comes when she's called!

Thinlómien · 06-22-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zil

The signs appear to point to a Mutineer Mac and a Conspirator Gwath.
With Rikae's vote for Gwath, it was a reasonable assumption for the mutineers that he would indeed be her pick for the Night as well. She'd been voicing some serious questions about Mac at the end of Day 4, and what better time to take her out than while her attention was focused on a (relative) innocent?

How does this make sense? First you say Mac is a mutineer, then you refer to him when saying Rikae's attention was focused on a relative innocent. And none of it explains why Gwath is a conspirator.

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And why do you say that you know it?

Because I can read your thoughts.

No, not really, I don't know why, but I'm just dead certain you're evil. I have a gut-feeling and I have reasons, and of course when I'm firmly in the belief that you're a mutineer I can explain everything from that persepctive (so criticism towards me is always welcome). But really, I'm just sure of it. I will apologise greatly after the game if I was wrong here, but really, you're just so evil it hurts.

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Can you give me a non-vague reason why you are so certain of me?

Yes, sir. I was thinking of making a post that explains why I think you're evil all in one post, and I will make it as soon as possible, but before that I won't repeat my arguments.

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For someone who says she doesn't scheme, you sound capable at being able to sniff possible one's out. I wonder how?

My refrainment (sp?) from scheming does not mean that I'd be unacquainted with or uncapable of such art.

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Originally Posted by Rikae

It's possible you're 11 with 6 evil, which would mean you've already lost, if the baddies can but coordinate their efforts (not to be a morbid voice from beyond the grave... in the Barrow Downs, no less... but I just thought I should point that out). Even without the cobblers - if all the wolves are alive, you have one more day. DOOM!!!! REPENT!!!

I'm optimistic enough to think we have taken down one of them already (Sally probably) but in case you're right this is not the time for lynching a ghost.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Lommy is giving me the creeps right now. She's, well how should one say it, careless or jubilant - and confident? (if all the mutineers are alive she has reason to be jubilant and confident)

I'm far from careless, not jubilant until this game is over (and not even then if we're going to lose like it looks like) but I'm confident. I'm confident that Mac is a mutineer. And you, on the other hand, were probably a cobbler and are now trying to cause chaos by pretending to be sensible. (Suggesting a Greenie lynch and ignoring all the counter-arguments is about the most cobblerish thing you can do.)

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Jog my memory, please (it's late here in the Antipodes): what has Kath done? You suspect her, Rikae suspects her... and I can't remember a single thing she's said this game.

Nothing. A few lists. I think she voted Annu at some point. That's it. But I'm scared of her because she's always so sneaky and I have no way to catch her now that the roles are hidden! And I have come to think of quite many people in this crew as innocents, so I don't have much possible mutineers on my list except Kath and that's why I'm wary of her and looking forward to seeing what she'll say or do. And like I said, some of my suspicion is rather irrational "it must be her" stuff.

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She's often a Night kill, so why's she still around? Heh, I was going to point this out yesterDay but was busy until it was too late to do anything toward a Kath lynch anyway.

What kind of logic is this?? I tell y'all, Sally sure wasn't totally innocent.

edit: xed with the last four

Inziladun · 06-22-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

How does this make sense? First you say Mac is a mutineer, then you refer to him when saying Rikae's attention was focused on a relative innocent. And none of it explains why Gwath is a conspirator.

I refer you to the second part of my post you quoted, as well as

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My reasoning for Gwath being a conspirator rather than a mutineer was mainly based on the fact that Rikae had voted for him yesterDay, and if he was a real baddy it would seem to be a bold move, going after Rikae when there appeared to be a good chance she was targeting him as well. Of course, the mutineers wouldn't have known who she targeted, but the fact that Gwath was so suspected by her would seem to make that too much of a risk for a Mutineer Gwath to have taken.

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Another thought about Gwath- didn't he miss the vote yesterDay? In fact, I don't remember seeing him at all, and there was apparently no explanation for his absence. Would a wolf do that at this late stage?

satansaloser2005 · 06-22-2009, 12:38 PM

*buzzer*

Quite wrong, Lommie dearest. By lynching me you missed a chance yesterDay to lynch a wolf. If only I'd gotten my vote in before Shasta's....

I'm quite uncomfortable with Dun right now, but I'm not really sure why. I'll have a go at him later and see what I see.

By the way, I'm a bit confused/curious. Can someone be killed their second time at Night, or just by lynch? (For instance if someone had all the wolves pegged and it worried the pack could the pack kill them again to shut them up?) It wouldn't be common but I was just wondering. Sorry for the Chekhov moment.

EDIT: x'd with Dun Dun Dun....

Macalaure · 06-22-2009, 12:45 PM

Oops, I've been thinking all the time that we could double-kill someone dead and someone living on the same day. Now that I know that we can only lynch one in any case, the double-kill option looks a lot less appealing. We should only double-kill someone if we really can get information out of his role - no matter whether he's good or evil. I don't see one right now - not Greenie, nor McCaber, nor Sally, nor Nogrod. Sorry.

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Because I can read your thoughts.

*makes himself aluminum foil hat*

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Yes, sir. I was thinking of making a post that explains why I think you're evil all in one post, and I will make it as soon as possible, but before that I won't repeat my arguments.

Looking forward to that.

Macalaure · 06-22-2009, 12:46 PM

By the way, even though he's my top suspect, I don't think lynching Gwath is a good idea, since he might get modfired anyway. If he suddenly appears, we can still lynch him tomorrow.

Mithalwen · 06-22-2009, 12:50 PM

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By the way, even though he's my top suspect, I don't think lynching Gwath is a good idea, since he might get modfired anyway. If he suddenly appears, we can still lynch him tomorrow.

Good point ..do we have anoy other potential modfirees?

06-22-2009, 11:32 AM	#1
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Another thought about Gwath- didn't he miss the vote yesterDay? In fact, I don't remember seeing him at all, and there was apparently no explanation for his absence. Would a wolf do that at this late stage? __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

06-22-2009, 12:12 PM	#4
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	And I'm back at last. Apologies for yesterDay, apparently green on a black screen does not agree with lightheadedness! So, I'm off to read through yesterDay and toDay so far, have some dinner, then post! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

06-22-2009, 12:38 PM	#8
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	buzzer Quite wrong, Lommie dearest. By lynching me you missed a chance yesterDay to lynch a wolf. If only I'd gotten my vote in before Shasta's.... I'm quite uncomfortable with Dun right now, but I'm not really sure why. I'll have a go at him later and see what I see. By the way, I'm a bit confused/curious. Can someone be killed their second time at Night, or just by lynch? (For instance if someone had all the wolves pegged and it worried the pack could the pack kill them again to shut them up?) It wouldn't be common but I was just wondering. Sorry for the Chekhov moment. EDIT: x'd with Dun Dun Dun.... __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

06-22-2009, 12:46 PM	#10
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	By the way, even though he's my top suspect, I don't think lynching Gwath is a good idea, since he might get modfired anyway. If he suddenly appears, we can still lynch him tomorrow.