WWLXII: Dead Men Do Tell Tales

[Boromir88]

Boro's innocent (if it really was innocent, of which I'm not really sure) fixation on Nogrod didn't help us one bit either.~Mac

Let's lynch him today and find out

And can I ask you how I've been fixated on Nogrod? I said yesterday I suspected him, and the day before I was definitely 'fixated' on him..but since he was absent yesterday I pretty much left him alone and went after others. You being one of them.

Why don't you bring up Mith's desire to lynch Nogrod? I mean I find Mith really innocent, but I haven't been the only one interested in seeing Nogrod ghosted. Plus...it seems like some have a fixation on me, jumping on whatever I say and either disregarding it with a single phrase or saying it doesn't make any sense. *cough*Mac*cough*

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

And can I ask you how I've been fixated on Nogrod? I said yesterday I suspected him, and the day before I was definitely 'fixated' on him..but since he was absent yesterday I pretty much left him alone and went after others. You being one of them.

True. Still, a lot of your thinking revolved around him (lynching McCaber twice or basing your suspicion of me on his role comes to mind).

Originally Posted by Boro

Why don't you bring up Mith's desire to lynch Nogrod? I mean I find Mith really innocent, but I haven't been the only one interested in seeing Nogrod ghosted. Plus...it seems like some have a fixation on me, jumping on whatever I say and either disregarding it with a single phrase or saying it doesn't make any sense. *cough*Mac*cough*

I'm only jumping on a relatively small percentage of what you say. You just talk so much. Percentage-wise, I commented on much more of Gwath's yesterday's posts than on yours. And as I said before, I'm not yet convinced of what you are. I'm not pursuing your lynch.

[Mithalwen]

Hi, I am here and will resist the distractions as much as possible (I had to watch Jolly Roger Federer play I am afraid ). Um if we are going to rekill anyone today migh tbe the day.... If we haven't hit any mutineers yet then we don't have long beofr the numbers are potentially equalled.

[Rikae]

Oh Mac, this time you can't gloat freely - I can haunt you.

Originally Posted by th' snifflin' one

I'm sure this comment will make you even more sure, but for what it's worth: Rikae tested me and concluded that someone else was still more suspicious than me.

Yeah, someone more suspicious - meaning Gwath - but you were still in my top, oh, four...

As for Nogrod, I figured if the aggressors chose to kill me, it probably was because the suspicions I voiced were wrong, do I killed someone who would have little reason to fear me - still, that's far from certain, especially if (as I fear is the case) all four wolves are alive - they might have thought the los of one was a risk worth taking.

It's possible you're 11 with 6 evil, which would mean you've already lost, if the baddies can but coordinate their efforts (not to be a morbid voice from beyond the grave... in the Barrow Downs, no less... but I just thought I should point that out). Even without the cobblers - if all the wolves are alive, you have one more day. DOOM!!!! REPENT!!!

Oh, and I wanted to say "give my regards to Davy Jones" sometime, and now it doesn't make sense. Curses.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Rikae

still, that's far from certain, especially if (as I fear is the case) all four wolves are alive - they might have thought the loss of one was a risk worth taking.

That's what I'm afraid of, and it's why I don't think we can simply rule out Gwath or Mac just because you suspected them.

Or Izzy, for that matter. However, her posting toDay looks both evil (continuing with her plan to throw suspicion around) and non-wolvish (was apparently taken aback to find you lynched). But she could be faking that, or the surprise could have been at finding Nogrod dead instead of someone more likely.

EDIT: Or Lommy– forgot about her.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rikae

especially if (as I fear is the case) all four wolves are alive - they might have thought the los of one was a risk worth taking.

It's possible you're 11 with 6 evil, which would mean you've already lost, if the baddies can but coordinate their efforts

Sadly I do share your pessimism Rikae...

I don't believe Mac and Boro are both innocents. And I doubt they both are mutineers.

Lommy is giving me the creeps right now. She's, well how should one say it, careless or jubilant - and confident? (if all the mutineers are alive she has reason to be jubilant and confident)

And this caught my eye as well looking at the posting of late:

Originally Posted by Inzil

The signs appear to point to a Mutineer Mac and a Conspirator Gwath.

That came right after Lommy had made her cases basically just telling us that Mac is a mutineer and he should be lynched. And Inzil was also quick to name Gwath a co-conspie rather than innocent, which is an interesting decision - although I admit I haven't yet read all that happened in the past two Days and maybe there is reason for that deduction... But somehow her post jumped like being one where happy mutineers just try to make it safe and bring the victory home quite soon.

Okay, getting ghosted kind of lessens one's motivation and inspiration to play full-time as there is no thrills of fighting for one's life and solving the mysteries together with others. And why make a loads of work just to be disregarded by enough many convincing mutineers?

On another, though relating issue, I'm not sure if lynching a ghost is reasonable politics - unless it's a double-lynch. But the double-lynches are generally quite risky as it would require co-ordination of all - well at least those present at the end of the Day. There we might run the risk of just lynching the ghost and missing a possible mutineer (a fellow mutineer might just hang around in the end and vote "wrongly" just by "accident"... and all that - with no knowledge we just can't deduce anything from it etc.).

I'm quite ready to be double-killed but you should also consider at least Greenie. If she bluffs a many things will be different (I tend towards trusting her revelation though as there have been no competing claims and it would be about time for the "real spy" to step forwards if there is one).

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I'm quite ready to be double-killed but you should also consider at least Greenie. If she bluffs a many things will be different (I tend towards trusting her revelation though as there have been no competing claims and it would be about time for the "real spy" to step forwards if there is one).

In other words, it's a waste unless we get a rival claim.

EDIT:X'd with Sally.

[Nerwen]

Well, I have to vote now, so–

++Gwath.

[satansaloser2005]

Oh, and for what it's worth I'll get stuck into that vote tally now. I was a bit tired last night and had things to do, but I'll get to it asap.



ETA: Heh, I just noticed that I'm at the top of Lommie's 'lynch a ghost' list. I hadn't seen that post when I made my comment about not killing me, because I....well, it was long and I just wanted to put a thought or two in so I skipped it. Anyway, my comment was unrelated. Back to work now.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And this caught my eye as well looking at the posting of late: That came right after Lommy had made her cases basically just telling us that Mac is a mutineer and he should be lynched. And Inzil was also quick to name Gwath a co-conspie rather than innocent, which is an interesting decision - although I admit I haven't yet read all that happened in the past two Days and maybe there is reason for that deduction... But somehow her post jumped like being one where happy mutineers just try to make it safe and bring the victory home quite soon.

My reasoning for Gwath being a conspirator rather than a mutineer was mainly based on the fact that Rikae had voted for him yesterDay, and if he was a real baddy it would seem to be a bold move, going after Rikae when there appeared to be a good chance she was targeting him as well. Of course, the mutineers wouldn't have known who she targeted, but the fact that Gwath was so suspected by her would seem to make that too much of a risk for a Mutineer Gwath to have taken.