Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Game Thread

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

A short list for now...

Green zone:

Lommy - generally seems innocentish to me, nothing that would give me Wolfy vibes.
Greenie - also nothing in particular. I may want to start paying more attention to her, because I realise she's been under my radar, but more or less reasonable posting thus far.
Brinn - same. I agree with many of her points, especially regarding BG. She's basically the Rune of this game for me.

Lemon-lime zone:

Rikae - yesterDay seemed generally like going with very rational analysis that I could essentially follow. Would like to see more from them still toDay.

Yellow zone:

Pitch - has some reasonable points, but also sometimes very strange ones. I also think I should get a better read on him, perhaps I'll review his posts when I have time. But he's nowhere near my top list of suspicious people.
Nilp - yesterDay was all over the place, toDay is very rational, systematic, overall making a lot of sense. Of course it might be a convenient tactic for a Wolf that would also enable him to gently skew the perspective - what better way to do it but in a thorough analysis - but I am so far more content with him than yesterDay.
Kath - overall posting sensibly, rationally. I am however growingly getting some uncertain vibe that there might be something fermenting underneath. I would like to see more posting from her.

Yellow but with grey questionmarks because missing content:

Shasta - where is Shasta? I absolutely want to see more from him toDay.
sally - basically ditto. Appeared, but did not really contribute thus far.

Orange zone:

Mac - there are some things in his posting that strike me as peculiar, like just now the way he so straightforwardly dismissed the possibility to glean something about Form&Nilp from yesterDay's voting. Continuing watching him.
Form - I am still not free from the suspicion I had of him yesterDay. Plus, given the setup of votes yesterDay, I am not ruling out that either he or Nilp might be Wolves who were being at some point covered for by votes of other Wolves, and he seems to me to be the more likely one. He may also be a Cobbler, which also does not rule out the above scenario, in theory.

Red Zone:

Nog - see above; yesterDay, I only thought he behaved a bit less confrontationally or inquisitively than I would expect of him, now his posting went from bad to worse. Plus his vote was also in a rather convenient position and his reasoning for Hui looks exactly like something a Wolf would be happy to pick on (and if Form is his fellow Wolf, Nog intentionally diverted attention from him towards Hui). Might be my primary vote candidate toDay.
BG - I am still suspicious about her vote yesterDay, and I still think it was the most likely Wolf-y one, however fairly straightforward. But also would like to see more about her current suspicions etc.

I'm going to air my head a little now, and if there isn't a terrible post barrage by the time I'm back, I might want to look back at Nog's and BG's posts especially if I have time, to try it with a bit of distance.

EDIT: x-ed with Rikae

[Blind Guardian]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

BG - I am still suspicious about her vote yesterDay, and I still think it was the most likely Wolf-y one, however fairly straightforward. But also would like to see more about her current suspicions etc.

Okay here's my spreadsheet so far

4 Wolves
Form, Nog, Legate, Nilp, Sally (post 14 & 220)

Form and Nog are underlined because I thought they were most likely to be Wolves. I also have Form on my Cobbler list because other people think that he's a Cobbler.

Up until Nog voted it was a tie between Nilp, Form, and hS. Nogwolf broke that tie and pushed the voting towards hS. At the same time he protected buddy Formwolf.

Legate is on the list because Lottie voted for him.

Sally is on that list for dumb dumb reasons (she referred to herself as "it").


1 Cobbler
Form, Pitch, Nilp
Pitch is my most likely Cobbler due to that fish boot comment. Although I did like his explanation I still felt that could have been a coverup.

Nilp could also be a Cobbler, but I don't feel comfortable voting for him due to his suicidal tendencies.


1 Seer
No comment yet...

1Ranger
Shasta was present on Day 1 but didn't really say that much. I felt like he was active but not saying anything to be suspicious.

1 Beast Hunter

Nog (post 10)

Okay bear with me. This might only make sense in my head. And yes, I know, flip-flopping.

Originally Posted by Nog

Looking at what these beasts have done to Mr. Boro, I can't help thinking we need to take some measures we would not be comfortable taking in any normal circumstances.

Am I crazy?? Beast + measures not comfortable (hunting wolves)... = beast hunter?

6 Villagers
Huinesoron
Loslote

Others
I'm not sure why Pitch voted for Kath.

Originally Posted by Pitch

A wolf plot made of one person suspecting you and another posting a general speculation unrelated to you. I'd say that's very much in the eyes of the beholder. I could even say construed.


That said, I agree that Kath's description of your behaviour wasn't really accurate, as you did give your opinions on the people you pushed. What I don't agree with is you implying Lottie in the (nonexistent) plot.
[Note to posterity: soft wolf-on-wolf between Kath and Hui + attempt to drag Lottie into it which fizzled out subsequently?]
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That's it? So pretty much a throwaway vote?

Okay that's all for now. I have to go for a bit.

Took 30+ minutes to type this up so most likely X'ed with a bunch.

[Nogrod]

As it looks like that every time I express thoughts and give reasons for them I only get suspected, I would better just shut up.

Also, I remember that I used to vote at the very last minute because I felt I had a responsibility to be there in case of any last minute hassle by the wolves. That tended to put me under extra-suspicion in every-game and started getting heavy (I'd love to play one game in my life when I could do other stuff but defend myself from all kinds of accusations). So I decided to try a change and vote earlier - only to be accused of lycanthrophy because of that.

That is kind of frustrating.


I'll best go back taking over the Marshalls and Gilbert Islands from the Japanese.

[Nogrod]

PS. No, I'm not quitting the game. I'm just a bit frustrated at the moment and will take a break (heh, just came back...).

And no, I'm not going to get dragged into defence-mode. That fun of spoiling my game I'm not allowing the wolves to have.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

As it looks like that every time I express thoughts and give reasons for them I only get suspected, I would better just shut up.

Also, I remember that I used to vote at the very last minute because I felt I had a responsibility to be there in case of any last minute hassle by the wolves. That tended to put me under extra-suspicion in every-game and started getting heavy (I'd love to play one game in my life when I could do other stuff but defend myself from all kinds of accusations). So I decided to try a change and vote earlier - only to be accused of lycanthrophy because of that.

That is kind of frustrating.


I'll best go back taking over the Marshalls and Gilbert Islands from the Japanese.

No no, not so. I mean, I get your frustration - it reminds me of my first couple of WW games (the Mr Agreeable period) when I was trying to figure out how the hezmana I was supposed to be playing so as not to make myself suspicious as an innocent - but at the same time, this is how the game is played, and you know it.


And you're not suspected for voting early but for lynching an innocent with forced reasoning. That's a difference. So expect virtual hugses galore but no quarter.

[satansaloser2005]

I need to step away from screens for a bit. I'll be back with plenty of time to vote.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

This raised my eyebrows too. For one thing, with these comments, they are under the assumption that you are indeed innocent (which if a wolf, they would know if that's true).

I guess I should have written my post under a 'J'accuse' byline (as I had thought of doing).

I am suspecting Mac of being a Wolf, if that's not clear enough.

On the basis of Lottie's death alone (assuming reasonable Wolves looking for the Seer), these three are implicated

• Legate
• Nog
• Mac (by the reasoning Nog and I have advanced

Based on little more than ill-defined feelings, Mac is most suspicious to me on that list, followed by Legate and Nog, in that order.