Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, game thread

[Boromir88]

Waiting for this QT vote to be known...in the meant time:

A thought I thought last night before bed - a possible reason for a Rikae kill is that they were onto something with their train of thought re: the anti-Brinn wagon. Weigh in, please.~Shasta

That's why I was focusing in on the 2 wagons.

Huey, Lottie, and Inzil all remarked caution against a Brinn-wagon. Which I also found suspicious. It's almost like a wolf/wolves trying to appear reasonable in "hey let's not bandwagon."

Lottie and Inzil had previously established reasons for suspecting G55 and voting her. Which is fair enough, but still pretty convenient for a wolf to be in there advocating against a Brinn-wagon, even if Brinn is not a wolf.

Edit: crossed with Nog posting the QT vote. Great. Not what I was expecting or wanted to see.

[Boromir88]

Apparently my edit turned into a repost *sigh*

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

First things first: I knew I was missing sally from my list, yet posted it nonetheless! Well, should go to the middle zone.

Second: the QT vote. Absolutely what I would expect from a Cobbler vote, but even, possibly, could be something they agreed on. I personally feel nothing wrong with pursuing Brinnwagon further, regardless whether it's been "blessed" by the Cobbler or not. It will only leave us to wonder. And let's keep in our heads the mantra: the Cobbler doesn't know anyone's roles, the Cobbler doesn't know anyone's roles, the Cobbler doesn't know anyone's roles. This is literally a vote to mess with our heads (even if it may have something else in, too - but it has this, for sure).

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Inzil and Lottie have the highest post count so far. How did they end up under my radar?

In the name of all the grandchildren of Finwë, Zil, really? My sentiment exactly.

However, that being said...

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Zil has one of the highest post counts? o.O How is that possibly true?

I think that raises him from 'moderate' to 'probable' wolf in my estimation. Sadly for Mac, with both of them having a vote, it doesn't make me think he himself is less suspicious - accusing your packmate right before one of you gets lynched sounds like a great way to alleviate suspicion of them.

hS

This again made my radar *ping* at HS. This again sounds like casting blame "from the flank", or "as he passes by". By now, however, HS has been doing it so consistently that I am really beginning to wonder.

Still. Right now, considering voting either HS, Lottie or Brinn. The former two seem to affect me the way that I keep telling myself "you are exaggerating", but then I see their next post and it's the same thing all over again. If I don't vote now and wait, I may end up again with the choice of some bandwagons about someone completely different and I would prefer not to do that. If it happened however and it was about some of those others that got votes so far, I would not be opposed to voting Lommy, possibly, but the whole thing seems horribly sinister and I have zero, zero, zero idea how to react to Mac. Zero.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Still. Right now, considering voting either HS, Lottie or Brinn. The former two seem to affect me the way that I keep telling myself "you are exaggerating", but then I see their next post and it's the same thing all over again. If I don't vote now and wait, I may end up again with the choice of some bandwagons about someone completely different and I would prefer not to do that. If it happened however and it was about some of those others that got votes so far, I would not be opposed to voting Lommy, possibly, but the whole thing seems horribly sinister and I have zero, zero, zero idea how to react to Mac. Zero.

What seems sinister?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

What seems sinister?

Literally "the whole thing", as in, what is happening between you and Mac and I don't know what, it is absolutely nontransparent to me and I would maybe do better to stay clear of it.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Apologies, I've gotten distracted. DL is in half an hour. Do we have a running tally?

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Apologies, I've gotten distracted. DL is in half an hour. Do we have a running tally?

It's in 1.5h!

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Apologies, I've gotten distracted. DL is in half an hour. Do we have a running tally?

It's in one and half hours. Don't try to confuse me with my DL mix up yesterday.

Lommy -> Macalaure
Kath -> Inzil
Lhuna -> Lommy
Macalaure -> Lommy 2
QT -> Brinniel

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

DL is in half an hour.

DL is in 1½ hours.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Apologies, I've gotten distracted. DL is in half an hour. Do we have a running tally?

Hour and a half, I think.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Literally "the whole thing", as in, what is happening between you and Mac and I don't know what, it is absolutely nontransparent to me and I would maybe do better to stay clear of it.

That's a remarkably safe position to take, especially since at the moment I'm the one with the most votes (how did this happen btw?) and Mac is the one who's probably overall garnered the most suspicion toDay.

edit: xed with Shasta and Pitch

[A Little Green]

I’ve essentially had the same problem for two days now so expect some talking in circles while I try to untangle it. (Sorry Lommy, this is exactly the waffling you mentioned! Or, should we say, "considering both sides of the issue". )

My top suspects are still Mac and Brinn, but both of them being wolves looks unlikely to me – chiefly because they’ve both acted paranoid in a strikingly similar way about the Rikae kill being about framing them specifically. I don’t really see two wolves from the same pack drawing attention to themselves in this way. Unless they were counting on that if one of them got lynched, this would give the other a free pass?

Mac’s self-defence does look more annoyed than desperate, as someone pointed out. But I just can’t see why an innocent Mac would draw attention to himself the way he was doing especially earlier toDay. And maybe our minds do work in very different ways, but I don’t see how (and why) an innocent Mac would come up with complex theory about how Cobbler55 thought Rikae was a Seer who dreamed Mac was a wolf and maybe the wolves followed her lead and thought so too, except he isn’t really a wolf, but maybe the wolves want to frame him.

That said, I don’t trust Brinn at all either. As in the post Lhuna quoted earlier where she said she suspected Pitch but laid off when he started being suspected by more people as she thought there might be wolves in the bandwagon and she didn’t want a part in it; I get a vibe of someone more concerned about not being implicated in lynching an innocent than actually lynching someone she genuinely suspects.


EDIT: x-ed since SHasta's reappearance

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Shasta

I don't actually think we should read into the QT vote at all. It could just as easily be a double-bluff by G55 - "If I vote Brinn, they'll think I want to kill her, so they won't vote her," etc. etc.

Agreed. As Legate already reminded us, the cobbler doesn't know anything we don't and therefore their vote also doesn't tell us anything.


EDIT: x-ed with Mac

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

My top suspects are still Mac and Brinn, but both of them being wolves looks unlikely to me – chiefly because they’ve both acted paranoid in a strikingly similar way about the Rikae kill being about framing them specifically. I don’t really see two wolves from the same pack drawing attention to themselves in this way. Unless they were counting on that if one of them got lynched, this would give the other a free pass?

I would assign the "paranoia about Rikae kill" more to Mac today than Brinn.

As far as I recall, Brinn had one post about it today which looked fishy on the "do you think I'd be that dumb?" comment. Her other posts have been comments about everyone else. Could be an attempt to look helpful, but struck me as an innocent response of "Ok Boro, you can waste your time if you want, I'm going to talk about other things."

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Huey, Lottie, and Inzil all remarked caution against a Brinn-wagon. Which I also found suspicious. It's almost like a wolf/wolves trying to appear reasonable in "hey let's not bandwagon."

It just struck me as coming out of nowhere. It looked like someone(s)wanted to save G55.
I would really like to know Brinn's alignment, but I don't know I'd vote for her.
Since the QTs (which effectively means G55) did vote for her, that throws a small wrinkle into it.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Since the QTs (which effectively means G55) did vote for her, that throws a small wrinkle into it.

That only tells us that G55 doesn't think Brinn is a wolf but wants to lynch her to save somebody she thinks IS a wolf - which could well be Mac, as she already seems to have thought him a possible wolf yesterDay.



However, I find myself concurring with Lottie above that the tone of Mac's last couple of posts is giving me pause. I don't know what a cornered Macwolf would sound like, but this doesn't feel like it.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

That only tells us that G55 doesn't think Brinn is a wolf but wants to lynch her to save somebody she thinks IS a wolf - which could well be Mac, as she already seems to have thought him a possible wolf yesterDay.



However, I find myself concurring with Lottie above that the tone of Mac's last couple of posts is giving me pause. I don't know what a cornered Macwolf would sound like, but this doesn't feel like it.

I don't actually think we should read into the QT vote at all. It could just as easily be a double-bluff by G55 - "If I vote Brinn, they'll think I want to kill her, so they won't vote her," etc. etc.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I don't actually think we should read into the QT vote at all. It could just as easily be a double-bluff by G55 - "If I vote Brinn, they'll think I want to kill her, so they won't vote her," etc. etc.

True.


The Cobbler doesn't know anyone's roles,
The Cobbler doesn't know anyone's roles,
The Cobbler doesn't know anyone's roles,
High-dee-high-dee ho!

Originally Posted by Greenie

That said, I don’t trust Brinn at all either. As in the post Lhuna quoted earlier where she said she suspected Pitch but laid off when he started being suspected by more people as she thought there might be wolves in the bandwagon and she didn’t want a part in it; I get a vibe of someone more concerned about not being implicated in lynching an innocent than actually lynching someone she genuinely suspects.

That's one of the main points against Brinn which has up to now been brought up ad nauseam by the world & his wife, starting from Rikae onward and (IIRC, need to check but I think) including Mac at some point? Why reiterate it?

[Macalaure]

Ok then, looking into the rest of my unknown list.


Loslote. Half her posts seem genuinely innocent and the other half doesn’t. I don’t feel like going into detail, there’s just too much of it. Gut feeling is innocent who I just happen to I disagree with.

Not seeing anything suspicious about Shasta.

Moving on to lower post counts…

Still can’t get a read on Rune, but nothing jumps out either.

Something doesn’t feel right about Sally, but I can’t put my finger on it. I always feel that way about Sally though, so yeah…

I’m mostly ok with Lhuna. Her role in the Kitanna/ranger/wolf thing raised an eyebrow, and I’m no fan of her parting shot, but that’s all I see.

Eonwe. Getting some suspicion from people, but outside of throwing away his vote, I don’t see it.


So, I was hoping one or two on my unknown list would stick out suspiciously upon closer observation, but as it turns out, I guess there was a reason why they were on the unknown list in the first place.

[Macalaure]

Feeling a bit bad about my Lommy vote now. Her last few post look more innocent to me. I'm feeling a lot worse about Huin and wish I could change it to him or Greenie, vote count be damned.

[Thinlómien]

In the spirit of my latest (longer) post, I would really urge people to look at patterns and teamups and accusations and wrack their brains what might the entire wolf pack, or the majority of it be. When you start doing this, you quickly notice that there's a limited amount of combos that both make sense as a team and consist of suspicious feeling players.

Also I know it's only Day2 and now is not the time to start analysing submarines but everybody should at least skim through the player list and pause to consider each fellow player.

As for the lynch toDay, well I already cast my vote, which I maintain "made things more interesting" , even if it happens that I get lynched toDay. I see where the second guessing on Mac is coming from but to me, his behaviour continues to be mostly baffling - he seemed so paranoid resigned to his death the whole Day, now that it started to look like he would be lynch, he suddenly becomes chill and starts focusing on other things than just being framed?

I still think we should give Brinn a pass for toDay, mostly not based on her own actions but how eager people have been to pin accusations and valiant defences on her. To the point that I thought everyone else is thinking that Brinn was yesterDay's kerfuffle and being surprised that people (at least Legate and Greenie) seem to be genuinely considering voting her. But what can I say, lynching her is probably a better idea than lynching me, anyway.

Ditto about Inzil. I still think he has seemed relatively innocent, so the constant suspicion on him makes me think I'm missing something. But is it him being shady, or a low key wolf conspiracy to keep him as a backup lynch option? No offense, but he is the type of player who often gets lynched pretty arbitrarily.

But of course, the most votes anyone has is 2 so there's plenty time to add more candidates on the table. I'm pretty curious about this actually, because yesterDay for instance the votes didn't spread very much despite the villge being huge. Wolves might have an interest in keeping the number of options small, regardless of whether one of them already has a vote or not.


edit: xed with #478 and onwards

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

True.


The Cobbler doesn't know anyone's roles,
The Cobbler doesn't know anyone's roles,
The Cobbler doesn't know anyone's roles,
High-dee-high-dee ho!

That's the spirit!

And yeah, I should perhaps be happy for knowing people sharing the idea, but Greenie's happy jump on the idea to vote Brinn seems worrisome to me.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

But of course, the most votes anyone has is 2 so there's plenty time to add more candidates on the table. I'm pretty curious about this actually, because yesterDay for instance the votes didn't spread very much despite the villge being huge. Wolves might have an interest in keeping the number of options small, regardless of whether one of them already has a vote or not.

Some good points there. But of course, while there may be more than two or three options, the actual viable options will probably quickly get limited to a smaller number too. But yeah...

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I'm at the moment strongly considering voting Brinn. Otherwise I thought to start a Huinesoron vote or somesuch, but I am not sure if anyone at all would go for it.

I wouldn't be opposed to voting for Huinesoron. I mentioned earlier that [b]Mac[b] was looking more innocent to me, and I started getting a kind of sketchy vibe from Huin. Even when I put him in my "feeling okay" category in my list, I mentioned that I wanted to keep an eye on his habit of slightly misrepresenting things in his summaries, as well. I'm going to take a closer look at him, but I would consider him a candidate for voting toDay.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Mac

Feeling a bit bad about my Lommy vote now. Her last few post look more innocent to me. I'm feeling a lot worse about Huin and wish I could change it to him or Greenie, vote count be damned.

If you're a wolf, you're eeeevil, you know that?

Originally Posted by Legate

Anyways, Mac looks far from uncontroversial to me, but I don't like how suddenly half the villag - not the least people I suspect like Lottie etc - turned into suddenly serving Mac as the main meal of the day. It feels like it isn't healthy.

Not that I wouldn't still be for cannibalising Mac for a village dinner à la Asterix, but I actually agree with this sentiment. Like I said before, people have been way too much assuming about Mac getting lynched toDay (others than Mac himself, too ).

That being said - I'm making a sidenote right now that if we lynch Mac and if he is a wolf, then I'd really look at Legate.

People talking about voting Huinesoron? Well that would be a Plot Twist but not necessarily a bad one. If he's a wolf, I wager Brinn is one too. He pretty much admitted to trying to save her on Day1, which just sounded off to me. But I have really hard time reading Huin because as I've said, I just don't follow his thought processes because it seems we disagree on every turn.


edit: xed with Lottie, Leggie and Littlie

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

People talking about voting Huinesoron? Well that would be a Plot Twist but not necessarily a bad one. If he's a wolf, I wager Brinn is one too. He pretty much admitted to trying to save her on Day1, which just sounded off to me. But I have really hard time reading Huin because as I've said, I just don't follow his thought processes because it seems we disagree on every turn.

Huey seems capable of long, analytical posts and somehow steers clear of controversy in the meantime. I am not at all at ease with him, but I don't think I'd vote him just yet.

[Kitanna]

Here's some rushed thoughts onHuinesoron
YesterDay, he came down hard on Lommy, initially for what looked to me like a normal "woe onto Day 1 and chaos" post. But he kept on it.
At the same time he threw light suspicion at LGP and also really pushed for "why is Mac so suspicious? And he kept pushing it, though Mac didn't ever appear to be a contender to be lynched. Then when Brinn fell under scrutiny he did the same sort of thing. Ultimately voting G55

Originally Posted by Huen

I will - probably in about 15 minutes - vote for Pitch (preferably) or G55 (if necessary), because I'm suspicious of both and don't trust the Brinn-wagon.

I think that's because my wolf-lean was initially based on her as part of a Pitch-G55 pack, which doesn't make much sense for a Cobbler.

Is how he starts the Day. Which, why not have a cobbler in that group? I think it makes sense for a cobbler to propose such an idea, then back away. In the same way I could believe it of a wolf.
And is back on his Lommy lynch train. Still not seeing why, then again, I haven't dug in on Lommy too much. Still it seems weird how he always keeps her there, ready to lynch, but then goes a different direction.

Timeline check: cross-posted with me (6 minutes earlier), or written after seeing it?

I feel he wants to get credit for saying "let's back off, Kit, shall we?" When it wasn't really necessary to establish a timeline for that. I revealed myself when enough people brought up my fake reveal reaction and I said I was done engaging on the subject. From a village standpoint, yeah, let it go, because innocents commenting on it are just digging themselves into a hole for wolves to hide in. But it alarms me Huin went out of his way to establish who said it first.
After a Day of demanding why people saw Mac as suspicious, and in my frantic refreshing to stay onto of new posts I see he's voted Mac.

I think that raises him from 'moderate' to 'probable' wolf in my estimation. Sadly for Mac, with both of them having a vote, it doesn't make me think he himself is less suspicious - accusing your packmate right before one of you gets lynched sounds like a great way to alleviate suspicion of them.

Originally Posted by Mac

Rereading Huin’s post while I’m looking over posts raises my blood pressure.

Yes! This! A million times! If I could use profanities here, I would.

So final thoughts on the Day.
Eonwe I didn't like his vote yesterDay and nothing he's said since makes me feel any better about him.
Mac I feel lynching Mac or Brinn would be very telling, but I don't want to "kill the patient for the autopsy" or however Mac put it.
Huin I feel if Huin is a wolf, then look deeper into Lommy. He has been harping on her since the start, but doesn't act on it. He spoke a lot, but I don't feel he always said anything, which is funny because he leveled that same statement at others yesterDay. He demands reasons for Mac and Brinn being so suspicious, but I don't feel like he really looked at people's reasons of why in the first place. He just saw these names that were gaining just enough traction and pounced. Like if they were lynched and turned out innocent he would look good. But then today he votes Mac. Erm...ok? Which at the beginning of the day, after reviewing Day 1, I'd have voted Mac too, but now? I feel like there's more to go on elsewhere.
And then the "leave Kit alone" timeline Huin tries to establish worries me.

++Huinesoron

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Okay could we please stop with the massive posts listing what people did in great detail, surely a point can be made more efficiently. If i ever mod a game, it will be with a tweet-version with a character and post cap for the participants.

Let's leave Kitanna for now, we all saw it, there was a reason we said nothing. Either she speaks truth (which I am inclined to believe) and the wolves will come for her eventually, or the real ranger comes forth and she will face quarantine.

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

But it is also kind of entrancing, isn't it?

Please stop it.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Dangerous (Could vote, but not my first choice)
Kitanna - Not sure what to think of her now, but I haven't taken her off the hook completely.

But why? I understand that she is not your top suspect, but I still don't get it.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

The Quarantine Thread has voted. They vote...

++ Brinniel


Votes (2 hours before the DL)

Lommy -> Macalaure
Kath -> Inzil
Lhuna -> Lommy
Macalaure -> Lommy 2
QT -> Brinniel

This basically means that cobbler voted Brinniel, right?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

That's a remarkably safe position to take, especially since at the moment I'm the one with the most votes (how did this happen btw?) and Mac is the one who's probably overall garnered the most suspicion toDay.

edit: xed with Shasta and Pitch

Yes, but not from me. Anyways, Mac looks far from uncontroversial to me, but I don't like how suddenly half the villag - not the least people I suspect like Lottie etc - turned into suddenly serving Mac as the main meal of the day. It feels like it isn't healthy.

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

This basically means that cobbler voted Brinniel, right?

Yes, likely. Or they agreed, which is also possible. See what I said some two posts back or something.

I'm at the moment strongly considering voting Brinn. Otherwise I thought to start a Huinesoron vote or somesuch, but I am not sure if anyone at all would go for it.

EDIT: xed since the Rune I quoted

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Legate

I'm at the moment strongly considering voting Brinn. Otherwise I thought to start a Huinesoron vote or somesuch, but I am not sure if anyone at all would go for it.

I could go for either Mac or Brinn at this point. Both look suspicious to me, and knowing their roles would give us a lot more insight into several others (including each other).

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I'm at the moment strongly considering voting Brinn. Otherwise I thought to start a Huinesoron vote or somesuch, but I am not sure if anyone at all would go for it.

I'm about done on a more thorough look of Lhuna. I was overall feeling good. I mean the Day 1 wasn't giving me anything, but really liked her point on Kit and response to Lottie. Agree with Lommy on how Lhuna's vote looks, but just about done with Lhuna's post.

Maybe too late and near DL to look through Huey for consideration today, but he's worth a thorough look.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Maybe too late and near DL to look through Huey for consideration today, but he's worth a thorough look.

Someone else said this recently too (Legate maybe?) and I've been slowly reading through his posts and I am starting to agree there's something going on there.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I'm about done on a more thorough look of Lhuna. I was overall feeling good. I mean the Day 1 wasn't giving me anything, but really liked her point on Kit and response to Lottie. Agree with Lommy on how Lhuna's vote looks, but just about done with Lhuna's post.

Maybe too late and near DL to look through Huey for consideration today, but he's worth a thorough look.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Someone else said this recently too (Legate maybe?) and I've been slowly reading through his posts and I am starting to agree there's something going on there.

Yeah, that was me. Mac then spoke about it later (another of the posts of his that piqued my interest - for a different reason, mostly because he suddenly was in accord with many of my own thoughts), but he has already cast his vote.

But I may go for it - or Lottie could be another option.

[A Little Green]

Okay. Since I actually want to get to bed on time for once -

++ Macalaure

As discussed earlier, I can't really think why an innocent Mac would be acting the way he has. The odd cobbler-Rikae-theory was the second time it's seemed like his thought processes are not ones that would occur to an innocent (the first being the slightly too convenient one from yesterDay where he went from it being nearly deadline and not knowing who to vote for to a suspicion of Brinn in the course of a single post).


EDIT: x-ed since Boro's post about Lhuna

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

I could go for either Mac or Brinn at this point. Both look suspicious to me, and knowing their roles would give us a lot more insight into several others (including each other).

I could vote for either, as part of the Rikae connection, or Lottie. It doesn't seem there would be much support for the last, though.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Ditto about Inzil. I still think he has seemed relatively innocent, so the constant suspicion on him makes me think I'm missing something. But is it him being shady, or a low key wolf conspiracy to keep him as a backup lynch option? No offense, but he is the type of player who often gets lynched pretty arbitrarily.

That last is undoubtedly true.

x/d with Kit and Legate

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Neutral:
Lommy
Leaning towards innocent. I thought she made a lot of sense in post 298. Might have made one or two safe-non commital comments on day 1, but it is hard not to.

Pitch
Yesterday I thought him innocent, but the Kitanna deal gets him relegated to this group.

Inzil
Mostly good vibes yesterday, less so today. Besides the ranger thing, I have nothing concrete.

The Ka
Leaning towards good. Seems insightful and helpful. Again nothing concrete.

Good
Legate
I haven't read all he says in detail, but what I have read is great. I agree with far more of his reasoning than I would normally care to admit. I am especially a fan of post 393 and 463.

Lhuna
I like her playing style okay. Anyways nothing has seemed out of character and seems helpful.

shasta
I like his playing style okay. Anyways nothing has seemed out of character and seems helpful.

Possibly Sinister
Loslote
I really get a bad vibe from Loslote, but to be honest 50% of her posts seem outright reasonable. The reason she still makes this list is that I did not care for her post 114 where she tried to keep the Legate-Pitch day 1 spat going, without commiting. In post 294 she seems to commit to an agenda of getting a Brinn voter lynched, which i did not care for.

Brinniel
Same as yesterday. Her actions today doesn't do much in either direction. I like that she stick to her guns, but I am not convinced by her arguments.

Eönwe
Same as yesterday + the fact that he could vote Kitanna

No read
Hui
Kath
Boromir
Lalaith
Sally
Mac
Greenie

Also guys guess what happened?
I was reading a Lommy post and Joni Mitchell’s “Both Sides Now” came on.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Also guys guess what happened?
I was reading a Lommy post and Joni Mitchell’s “Both Sides Now” came on.

Btw:

Lommy -> Macalaure
Kath -> Inzil
Lhuna -> Lommy
Macalaure -> Lommy 2
QT -> Brinniel
Greenie -> Macalaure 2
Legate -> Huinesoron

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lommy

I don't recall being outraged about that, but - I started the day thinking Mac and Brinn are equally implicated by and equally touchy about Rikae's death. Then I actually read through Rikae's posts (italics because I thought I said this 20 times ) and came to the conclusion she doesn't look like a seer who dreamt of Brinnwolf which made me consider it less likely - but not impossible - that a wolf pack with Brinn would target Rikae. While Mac's paranoia about Rikae seemed so outlandish it seemed to me the same paranoia could easily have led a wolf pack with Mac to kill Rikae.

Ah okay, makes sense now. I went back to the beginning of the day and the bit I got the outrage vibes from was this abundance of questionmarks:

Originally Posted by Lommy

But I already see people talking as if the bandwagon against Brinn is a sign of her innocence? No???

[Macalaure]

Commenting on a few things over the last 2 pages:

Originally Posted by Pitch

Finding out Mac's role will also shed a light on Brinn.

Originally Posted by THE Ka

Would I vote*Mac*based on his individual words alone? Nope. Could I vote for Mac just to flush out who needs him out? High possibility,

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I agree with this assessment and think a lot of light will be shed.
I am leaning more toward Mac based on my assessment earlier, but I don't feel overly confident in casting that vote.

Kill the patient to autopsy him??


Rereading Huin’s post while I’m looking over posts raises my blood pressure.


The QT Thread went for Brinniel. The way I understand it, Gala is in charge of this vote toDay, right? It’s surprising that this vote went to Rikae’s top suspect.


About Lommy’s Mac & Green wolf-on-wolf idea… I think we’re going at each other a bit too hard for that to be likely. Ah, but then again, under Lommy’s assumption that I’m a wolf that has given up (which of course doesn’t make sense ) it might make some sense.

Originally Posted by Rune

If i ever mod a game, it will be with a tweet-version with a character and post cap for the participants.

*Officially nominating Rune to mod the next game.*

Originally Posted by Pitch, at Greenie

That's one of the main points against Brinn which has up to now been brought up ad nauseam by the world & his wife, starting from Rikae onward and (IIRC, need to check but I think) including Mac at some point? Why reiterate it?

Because she’s a wolf trying to string the village along?

Originally Posted by Lommy

If you're a wolf, you're eeeevil, you know that?

[Lalaith]

It's all very well saying I'm quiet, people, but this is a noisy village. I've been asking questions which no-one has listened to or answered. For example, why are some people still suspecting Kit.
On the subject of which, I've been re-reading and found a couple of other people I feel quite good about.
Lottie

Shasta - I really like how he handled the Kit situation, trying to defuse it without drawing attention to it.

Good point, and it makes me think better of you too, for pointing it out.
I'm not happy about a lot of things including the current candidates for lynching, none of whom I'm particularly keen to vote for.
I thought Boro was less weird today but re-reading, he's still being weird. Stream of consciousness still strong. Look at this:

Trying to put on my wolf gloves and mask, anytime people come out saying the kill was a "frame" to set up an innocent for an easy lynch, it pings (sorry Pitch ) my radar. I recall more than once of past experiences where we go through 3-4 day/night cycles without lynching a wolf. But the only deaths are ordos, and it winds up destroying the pack. The longer gifted stay in, the more they start to uncover, the more they're able to figure out and coordinate dreams/protections/hunts amongst themselves and eventually the wolfpack runs out of "unknown ordos" to kill. Bottom line is, every pack (maybe not) but purely on theory and experience you go for gifteds first. No matter the cost if it makes a fellow wolf look bad or not.

This is an example. All he is saying here is "wolves are more interested in killing gifteds than framing innocents" and takes a looong paragraph to do it.
Also - there's not been enough focus on Pitch. He was the third person on Rikae's list but no-one's talking enough about him.
And finally -
Legate is still really suspicious to me. I still can't follow his reasoning. Correct me if I'm wrong, but on the one hand he's angry with people for talking about KitRanger but on the other he's putting her quite high on his suspect lists.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

I thought Boro was less weird today but re-reading, he's still being weird. Stream of consciousness still strong. Look at this:

This is an example. All he is saying here is "wolves are more interested in killing gifteds than framing innocents" and takes a looong paragraph to do it.

Apologies, but you know those "what kind of messenger are you?" things. Do you give 1 word/1 sentence response or a long block paragraph? I'm the latter, but I'm trying to work on it!