Two truths and a lie...

[Tar-Jêx]

Originally Posted by Orphalesion

Alright

1) The Easterlings of Hithlum called the Elves "White-fiends".
2) According to Hobbit folktales Trolls originated in the Ironwood in the east.
3) According to Rohrrim folktales Halflings have voices like birds.

I'm quite sure the Easterlings of Hithlum did address the elves as 'white-fiends' as they did not trust them, and thought they were too pale to have done anything of use.

I think I remember the Rohirrim stating that the Halflings have voices like birds, but I can't be as certain as the first one.

While Trolls did come from Eastern lands, I do not believe that it was specified as to where exactly they originated. This makes the second option suspect. In my reading, I have not come across any reference to Trolls in the Ironwood. Trolls came from Mordor, and dark lands, but moved West to Eriador some time during the Second Age, perhaps earlier. Native trolls are a very uncommon thing to find in Eriador. I'm calling this the lie.

[Orphalesion]

Originally Posted by Tar-Jêx

I'm quite sure the Easterlings of Hithlum did address the elves as 'white-fiends' as they did not trust them, and thought they were too pale to have done anything of use.

I think I remember the Rohirrim stating that the Halflings have voices like birds, but I can't be as certain as the first one.

While Trolls did come from Eastern lands, I do not believe that it was specified as to where exactly they originated. This makes the second option suspect. In my reading, I have not come across any reference to Trolls in the Ironwood. Trolls came from Mordor, and dark lands, but moved West to Eriador some time during the Second Age, perhaps earlier. Native trolls are a very uncommon thing to find in Eriador. I'm calling this the lie.

You are right. I was hoping that the Edda talking about the Trolls living in the Ironwood in the east of Midgard would confuse people.

The Easterlings calling the E;ves withe-fiends is from the Tale of the Children of Hurin, Eomer says that all the Rohirrim know of Hobbits is that they live far away and have voices like birds.

Your turn.

[Tar-Jêx]

1. By the time Bilbo has found the ring, Saruman had already betrayed the White Council
2. In Riddles in the Dark, Bilbo tells 5 riddles
3. Both of Mîm's sons died at Amon Rûdh

[Andsigil]

Originally Posted by Tar-Jêx

1. By the time Bilbo has found the ring, Saruman had already betrayed the White Council
2. In Riddles in the Dark, Bilbo tells 5 riddles
3. Both of Mîm's sons died at Amon Rûdh

1) I believe is true, as Saruman had already betrayed them in his heart, if not overtly.

2) is true, if you count, "What do I have in my pocket?" as a riddle. Gollum did (but wanted 3 guesses... and actually took 4).

3) I think is the lie. I remember one son died at Amon Rûdh, but wasn't the other MIA?

[Tar-Jêx]

Originally Posted by Andsigil

1) I believe is true, as Saruman had already betrayed them in his heart, if not overtly.

2) is true, if you count, "What do I have in my pocket?" as a riddle. Gollum did (but wanted 3 guesses... and actually took 4).

3) I think is the lie. I remember one son died at Amon Rûdh, but wasn't the other MIA?

Incorrect. Khîm was wounded by Turin's men, but succumbed to his wounds in Amon Rûdh. At least, that was one version of the story. There have been quite a few iterations of the story, but I believe in the most recently published edition, Khîm died at his home.

[Tar-Verimuchli]

Originally Posted by Tar-Jêx

Incorrect. Khîm was wounded by Turin's men, but succumbed to his wounds in Amon Rûdh. At least, that was one version of the story. There have been quite a few iterations of the story, but I believe in the most recently published edition, Khîm died at his home.

His other son, Ibun, doesn't die in Amon Rudh (or, at least, is not stated to have died there), he's captured by orcs but not mentioned after although later Mim says to Hurin that he is the last of his people.

[Tar-Jêx]

Originally Posted by Tar-Verimuchli

His other son, Ibun, doesn't die in Amon Rudh (or, at least, is not stated to have died there), he's captured by orcs but not mentioned after although later Mim says to Hurin that he is the last of his people.

Ibun died in the Sack of Amon Rudh, leading the reader to believe that he was killed their. His fate was vague, and it's probably different through all of the versions.

Bilbo and Gollum were both in internal agreement that his fifth questions was not a riddle, even though they went along with it and treated it like one.