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Old 09-01-2014, 12:47 AM   #1
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Cool. Silmarillion questions then.
1. Only 12 men of the House of Beor remain in Dorthonion before Sauron has all but Beren killed.
2. Glaurung's siblings fight in the fall of Gondolin.
3. Turin and Brandir are related as they share 2 great grandparents.
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Old 11-27-2014, 07:08 PM   #2
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Cool. Silmarillion questions then.
1. Only 12 men of the House of Beor remain in Dorthonion before Sauron has all but Beren killed.
2. Glaurung's siblings fight in the fall of Gondolin.
3. Turin and Brandir are related as they share 2 great grandparents.

Number 2 is a lie, there were dragons in Gondolin, but Glaurung is never mentioned to have had siblings, he is called (probably metaphorically) the father of Dragons.

(Turin and Brandir share 2 great grandparents, Halmir and his wife)
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Old 11-27-2014, 08:04 PM   #3
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Cool. Silmarillion questions then.
1. Only 12 men of the House of Beor remain in Dorthonion before Sauron has all but Beren killed.
2. Glaurung's siblings fight in the fall of Gondolin.
3. Turin and Brandir are related as they share 2 great grandparents.
The 2nd and 3rd statements were probably a bit too obvious, making it easy to determine the lie.

I'm not particularly good at wording questions to make them confusing and vague, but I'd like some more questions related to Turin.
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:44 PM   #4
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The 2nd and 3rd statements were probably a bit too obvious, making it easy to determine the lie.

I'm not particularly good at wording questions to make them confusing and vague, but I'd like some more questions related to Turin.
So was I right?
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:40 PM   #5
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Well, Tar-Verimuchli didn't confirm the answer, but it doesn't look like he's gonna come back to do so anytime soon. Feel free to take the turn.
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Old 11-29-2014, 09:02 PM   #6
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1) The Easterlings of Hithlum called the Elves "White-fiends".
2) According to Hobbit folktales Trolls originated in the Ironwood in the east.
3) According to Rohrrim folktales Halflings have voices like birds.
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Old 11-30-2014, 02:11 AM   #7
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1) The Easterlings of Hithlum called the Elves "White-fiends".
2) According to Hobbit folktales Trolls originated in the Ironwood in the east.
3) According to Rohrrim folktales Halflings have voices like birds.
I'm quite sure the Easterlings of Hithlum did address the elves as 'white-fiends' as they did not trust them, and thought they were too pale to have done anything of use.

I think I remember the Rohirrim stating that the Halflings have voices like birds, but I can't be as certain as the first one.

While Trolls did come from Eastern lands, I do not believe that it was specified as to where exactly they originated. This makes the second option suspect. In my reading, I have not come across any reference to Trolls in the Ironwood. Trolls came from Mordor, and dark lands, but moved West to Eriador some time during the Second Age, perhaps earlier. Native trolls are a very uncommon thing to find in Eriador. I'm calling this the lie.
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Old 11-30-2014, 11:46 AM   #8
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I'm quite sure the Easterlings of Hithlum did address the elves as 'white-fiends' as they did not trust them, and thought they were too pale to have done anything of use.

I think I remember the Rohirrim stating that the Halflings have voices like birds, but I can't be as certain as the first one.

While Trolls did come from Eastern lands, I do not believe that it was specified as to where exactly they originated. This makes the second option suspect. In my reading, I have not come across any reference to Trolls in the Ironwood. Trolls came from Mordor, and dark lands, but moved West to Eriador some time during the Second Age, perhaps earlier. Native trolls are a very uncommon thing to find in Eriador. I'm calling this the lie.
You are right. I was hoping that the Edda talking about the Trolls living in the Ironwood in the east of Midgard would confuse people.

The Easterlings calling the E;ves withe-fiends is from the Tale of the Children of Hurin, Eomer says that all the Rohirrim know of Hobbits is that they live far away and have voices like birds.

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Old 11-30-2014, 04:41 AM   #9
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Well, Tar-Verimuchli didn't confirm the answer, but it doesn't look like he's gonna come back to do so anytime soon. Feel free to take the turn.
Sorry, didn't notice the replies. Tar Jex is right, there are 13 men of the house of Beor left in Dorthonion not 12. The Silmarillion states that dragons of the brood of Glaurung are part of the army that sacks Gondolin and Brandir and Turin are both great grandsons of Hador of the third house and Halmir of the second.

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