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Old 02-02-2013, 09:26 PM   #1
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Rikae is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.Rikae is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.Rikae is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.
And that has what do do with dueling wizards?

No, you didn't explain your (absurd) dueling wizards theory until now, or if you did I somehow completely missed it.

Bah. I told myself I'd get out of this discussion.

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after I decided to leave you alone earlier in the game because I didn't want to upset you, this is the thanks I get. Gee, thanks a lot. What would you prefer? Should I have said something earlier on and had you rage quit? Would that have been better?
What? Really? Is that what you think of me?

Wow, and I thought you were insulting before.

I don't even care what your role is anymore.

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Old 02-02-2013, 09:27 PM   #2
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Rikae is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.Rikae is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.Rikae is wading through snowdrifts on Redhorn.
Incidentally, if I ever think about signing up for one of these games, someone please remind me that I don't want to play them anymore.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:23 PM   #3
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What? Really? Is that what you think of me?
You'd self-voted, you had RL things going on (if I didn't already say it, my condolences, by the way), and things were already heated enough (mostly between you and Nerwen) without me getting involved and yammering on about how I thought you might be a wolf too (though I'll admit I was more focused on Morsul and Gil at the time, so leaving you alone wasn't much of a chore). I hadn't entirely made up my mind, and I didn't want to make things worse, so I moved on. So is that what I think of you? Is what I think of you that I didn't want to make your day even worse when I had better candidates to go for? Is what I think of you that I actually care more about your feelings than the game? Yeah. That's what I think of you. So if you're going to get even more upset because I "suddenly" suspected you, that's what's going to happen, and if it gets me lynched, I'll be upset, but I won't regret it.

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Rikae seems like the stressed and overreacting innocent Rikae I've seen in the past. Leave her alone, at least for toDay. I'm not touching the other side of that show either. Nerwen is stressed out, and I'm going to let these shenanigans be bygones and move on. I think the entire thing has been blown out of proportion. We can review it toMorrow when everyone has calmed down and go from there.
As for my "sudden" suspicion, I'll remind everyone of Sally's participation during the Days in question.

The Day Gil was lynched: I gave Rikae a pass for the Day because of everything that was going on (as quoted above).

The Day Morsul was lynched: I wasn't even around. The few posts I made were from my iPad without even having read the thread. I thought I'd be able to read through and do more posting when I got home, but it wasn't possible; for anybody who cares, we had quite a bit of bad weather and I didn't make it home until after deadline.

The Day Dun was lynched: Well, we know that already. I went for Rikae right off (after making one post reflecting briefly on the Night's events) and have been doing so ever since.

When was I supposed to share my suspicions between Gil's lynch and Dun's self-vote? Really, when?

Bah. I really need to get away from this. Curse me for needing to check my e-mail and being unable to avoid the Downs. Then again, this (which I'd missed before, whoops) makes me feel a bit better.

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I don't think it is a foregone conclusion. Anything but.

And I could even see what you mean by telling us to read her posts. I agree she doesn't make it easy to believe in her innocence!
At least I'm not crazy. Granted, it's coming from my next top suspect (given my feelings at the end of yesterDay anyway), but at this point I'll take whatever I can get. Thank you, Nog. Seriously, regardless of anybody's role, thank you for at least acknowledging that something's shifty there. I appreciate it, and it helps a lot.


I'm going to go to bed, I'm going to stop thinking about Werewolf, and I'm going to get some sleep. When I wake up in the morning, I will decide how I feel about the other three players in the game. You'll hear from me again then.


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Old 02-02-2013, 10:40 PM   #4
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No, you're not crazy. I suppose your reasons to suspect me are as good as any of the reasons I suspected anyone, and they just look absurd to me because I know they're false. In fact, they're very similar to some of the stuff I said about Inzil (about things possibly being wolfish sarcasm/joking).

I'm probably just being hypocritical here, both with the rudeness (not realizing how bad the stuff I say sounds) and with the suspicion.

I mean, two people think I'm suspicious = I know at least one of them is telling the truth!

Not saying I think anybody is more or less evil on that basis, just that I realize my perspective might seem to make more sense to me than it really does.

I still think, and I don't want to be insulting about this, but anyone who is in the situation I was in (changing your mind but not influencing anyone else) could be accused of being a wolf avoiding participation in a bandwagon. I would hope the details would be of some importance. I mean, for a wolf to come out all gung-ho with a blatant accusation, and then just as blatantly accuse the people who follow it, is anything but subtle and safe! I think if I had wanted to influence a lynch without getting my hands dirty, I would have gone about it in a less memorable fashion!

But yeah, that's what I say and you can believe it or not.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:42 PM   #5
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That last line had the wrong tone. I mean, that's what I say and people can always disbelieve it; nothing I can do about that.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:49 PM   #6
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Just to lighten the atmosphere, I wish to say that I really found this little aside aside quite amusing:
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...Rikae's flip flop (though not in the style of either of our wonderful mods)...
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:10 AM   #7
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About yesterDay: what I'm thinking is that Zil and his comrades, McCaber and The Unknown Wolf might have thought they were likely to lose him soon, and might even have come up with a plan to bus him. But– as I said here, McCaber's death would have been a nasty shock to them, and obviously changes the dynamic quite considerably. So it's a question of whether they would have stuck to such a plan after that. Zil, at least, gives me quite the impression of someone who would have preferred to stay alive– I think the motivation behind his self-vote was that "it worked for Rikae", rather than that he was truly resigned to being lynched.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:36 AM   #8
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Also, about Rikae:

Thing is, I don't, and never did, agree with the consensus that Rikae's self-vote and loss of temper "screamed innocent". I have seen her act just like that as an innocent, and I've seen her act just like that as a wolf. Not that I mean she would fake it, but, you know, wolves can get angry and frustrated too. (Besides, two of those strongest in pushing that line were Zil and McCaber.)

On the other hand, this "flip-flopping" business on Morsul the Day before yesterDay, that Sally sets so much store by– no, I really don't see anything in that. Sometimes one sees a player as guilty early in the piece... and then comes back towards the end of the Day and finds that *everyone's* for lynching that person– and wonders why the calvary hasn't ridden to the rescue.
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