WW CI - Mutton yesterDay, mutton toDay and mutton toMorrow

[Rikae]

I'm strongly considering voting for Morsul:

-for trying to lump himself in with Gil yesterday as an "easy lynch".
-for the countdown to a wizard victory. Yes, it's just the facts, but something about the way he posted looks like counting down to his own win. I can't put my finger on what that "something" is, but it feels wrong.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I'm strongly considering voting for Morsul:

-for trying to lump himself in with Gil yesterday as an "easy lynch".
-for the countdown to a wizard victory. Yes, it's just the facts, but something about the way he posted looks like counting down to his own win. I can't put my finger on what that "something" is, but it feels wrong.

It's something that was being discussed Cab asked for clarification so I clarified it.

Cool though, you want to vote for me I understand, wouldn't want to mess up this losing streak we're on(sarcasm). I'm going to sleep now.

Also after a quick reread Nerwen overcame Nog as my third suspect.

Trying to decide if I should vote.

Actually yeah not really anything will change my mind on this...

++Sally

reasons I stated yesterday haven't changed didn't like How she voted Gil If I was her top suspect the whole time why not vote me? Looks like she just wanted to look like another befuddled ordo.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Actually yeah not really anything will change my mind on this...

++Sally

reasons I stated yesterday haven't changed didn't like How she voted Gil If I was her top suspect the whole time why not vote me? Looks like she just wanted to look like another befuddled ordo.

Maybe... except it seems pretty clear she decided to vote him specifically because of his
posting yesterDay. It's not as if one is committed to picking a single suspect and sticking to him throughout the game.

[Nerwen]

Oh yes, Morsul looks quite bad. He's right about comparing himself to Gil, though. It's the same problem, basically.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Also after a quick reread Nerwen overcame Nog as my third suspect.

Reasons for this?

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Actually yeah not really anything will change my mind on this...

++Sally

reasons I stated yesterday haven't changed didn't like How she voted Gil If I was her top suspect the whole time why not vote me? Looks like she just wanted to look like another befuddled ordo.

To be fair, do you not see how your own vote, coming right on the heels of Kath's with no previous suspicion of Sally, looks rather dodgy itself?

[Rikae]

I'm not liking this "analyze the two people below you" plan. It was Cop's idea, and it means I'm analyzing Cop; it also means that six people are being analyzed by wizards and that will take up most of the day, giving them a chance to look helpful while doing little. These kinds of analyses are only useful when there is a conclusion, and it's too easy, this way, to analyze without coming to any real conclusion at all (after all, it's just a rote thing, right? Just what you're supposed to do?)

Perhaps we should analyze people we find possibly suspicious? Radical idea, I know.

[Rikae]

That said, I'll go along and analyze Sally and Cop.

I hope people are going to compare the way the same person is analyzed by the two people who are supposed to cover him/her.

I really don't like this format, though. It isn't helpful to read a bland summary of every post a person made with no commentary. Couldn't people just mention things that they consider worth commenting on? That, after all, is the sort of thing that makes the analysis reflect on the analyzer as well; it is also much more readable than:
#9 - banter
#13 - more banter
#57 - lots of arguing
etc.

I mean, really.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

reasons I stated yesterday haven't changed didn't like How she voted Gil If I was her top suspect the whole time why not vote me? Looks like she just wanted to look like another befuddled ordo.

But she didn't say you were her 'top suspect all the time'. Just because she suspects you throughout the game doesn't mean she isn't allowed to look at anyone else, or think anyone else is posting suspiciously.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I really feel like several people want us to lynch Morsul today. Like three.

Including you, as well? Just saying.

Originally Posted by Rikae

I'm strongly considering voting for Morsul:

-for trying to lump himself in with Gil yesterday as an "easy lynch".
-for the countdown to a wizard victory. Yes, it's just the facts, but something about the way he posted looks like counting down to his own win. I can't put my finger on what that "something" is, but it feels wrong.

I apologize for my quietness. The severe weather passed us by with no damage, thankfully, but it created some inconvenience. That plus a busy workday equals little time for WW. I'm going to at least vote, if nothing else. Yes, I'm looking at Morsul, primarily because he looks worse than any one else. The martyr-syndrome coupled with what appears to be hypocrisy about Sally's vote as compared to his own.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Including you, as well? Just saying.

No. I don't want to lynch him anymore. It seems too much as if he's been chosen for the purpose.

Honestly, after Pom got lynched for the same sort of thing, do you really think I would say that meaning me? I now have a feeling this day is being choreographed, and you are one of the choreographers.

[Rikae]

As a matter of fact I'm not going to go along with this plan. If it's not a wizard's plan, it's certainly helpful to them.

I will not vote for Morsul for the reasons I just mentioned.

Thoughts on everybody:


Loslote - Her posting often seems iffy, but she did give Pom her second vote. I don't think a wizard would have considered it necessary to bus Pom at that point.
Rikae - Ordo, seer-dreamed as far as I can tell.
Inzil - Looking very bad to me now. He's been flying under the radar (even though he had 3rd most posts!) and generally seems to be poking at people without getting his hands dirty, hoping for something to stick. Voted for Gil the day before Brinn's death as well - a safe vote at the time.
Kath - Really under the radar. Caused a lot of confusion with her early banter, but overall her posting doesn't seem suspicious. It doesn't seem particularly innocent either. Very short, largely uncontroversial posts. Safe. A little too safe.
McCaber - His "bandwagon" on Cop with Pom shouldn't make him, or Cop for that matter, look any better. Pom's "keep an eye on Cop voters" makes him look slightly better, however, I am really not pleased with his analysis toDay (night?) - a lot of text, not a lot of content.
Nerwen
Sally - looking pretty innocent, actually, mostly due to her vote. Shasta likely wasn't killed because the wizards hoped he'd be modfired, come to think of it, and Sally may be alive now because of Brinn's comment bringing attention to her (I doubt very highly that Brinn actually dreamed of her).
Morsul - too often put forward as an easy lynch candidate by people who themselves don't look too innocent. He could still be evil. His posting, however, is erratic and controversial in a way that either an innocent or a wizard could possibly be, but that, in an innocent, would attract wizardly attention. I will not be voting for him today.
Nog - The events thus far have a Nog-mastermind feel to them. Particularly had the impression he was part of a plot to frame me after Volo's death - him more so than Nerwen. She is persistent enough to make herself look better, while Nog puts something out there and then sort of lets it gain momentum while backing off himself. He is also not nearly as active, as serious about wolf-hunting, as an innocent Nog usually is. Innocent Nog is persistent - this Nog is not. I don't like it.
Nerwen - I'm keeping an eye on her but as I've said, I actually think she'd be a bit more laid back if she were evil. If she is evil, she's doing a good job - staying involved in the controversy while making herself look better rather than worse.
Coppermirror - Just the same old bad feeling about the way she makes long posts with little content, and now has basically prompted the entire village to do the same. It may be a style thing, though.

Looking worst right now:
Inzil
Nogrod
Kath

Iffy:
Coppermirror
McCaber
Nerwen

Ok for now:
Lottie
Sally
Morsul
Nerwen
Rikae (duh)

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Nog - The events thus far have a Nog-mastermind feel to them. Particularly had the impression he was part of a plot to frame me after Volo's death - him more so than Nerwen. She is persistent enough to make herself look better, while Nog puts something out there and then sort of lets it gain momentum while backing off himself. He is also not nearly as active, as serious about wolf-hunting, as an innocent Nog usually is. Innocent Nog is persistent - this Nog is not. I don't like it.

This makes a lot of sense to me. What I keep remembering is how people keep bringing up suspicion against him, but it keeps being forgotten within a few hours. I don't really know what to make of that, but I think it's high time we pay some attention to him.

Nerwen - I'm keeping an eye on her but as I've said, I actually think she'd be a bit more laid back if she were evil. If she is evil, she's doing a good job - staying involved in the controversy while making herself look better rather than worse.

That...actually makes sense. I think she reads evil, but...probably a Nerwolf wouldn't. She makes my head hurt.

Coppermirror - Just the same old bad feeling about the way she makes long posts with little content, and now has basically prompted the entire village to do the same. It may be a style thing, though.

I don't know, I've seen this sort of suggestion a lot from a player who isn't quite *new* any more, has gotten a feel for the game, and wants to try a new strategy to catch wolves easier - and that generally comes when they're innocent, not evil. Cop's been feeling good to me, and I highly doubt she's a wizard.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Rikae

No. I don't want to lynch him anymore. It seems too much as if he's been chosen for the purpose.

Honestly, after Pom got lynched for the same sort of thing, do you really think I would say that meaning me? I now have a feeling this day is being choreographed, and you are one of the choreographers.

So you put me as an instigator against Morsul, but you're "iffy" on Coppermirror and Nerwen, who have also been for his lynching? And the former actually voted him already.

Trouble is, I really haven't had a chance to look closely at others. I have misgivings about Nerwen, and to a lesser extent Sally, though the latter has to a large extent been mitigated by the fact that I haven't trusted Morsul, and he's been after her. Morsul, as you say, has been all over the place as usual, but "that's just Morsul" shouldn't always be an out. Unfortunately, I need to vote now, or not vote at all.

++Morsul

Do as you like, and good luck.

x/d with Rikae and Kath

[Nogrod]

I got to check Brinn's posting and the few notes I had made on Volo.

With the information we have now it looks pretty improbable the Wizards killed either of them because they looked seerish to them. Which I think is pretty wild indeed, well, odd.

I've been a wolf often enough to know there is no other concern that would override the search for the seer with the lupines - and the gravest sacrifices (making themselves look bad the next Day) are needed when there is a suspicon about who the seer is (which comes from any unwarranted or firm suspicion for one of them).

Sure the pressure and the need depend on any given situation, but that is a kind of basic fact, like the law of gravity for WW-games.

And therefore the choices the Wizers have made puzzle me to no end now.

Also, going back there showed quite clearly Rikae is innocent.