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"I don't believe this." The spy, head in hands, rocked gently back and forth in the lonely corner to which the two had repaired once night had fallen on the Palace. "These slaves of evil are springing up like weeds! First Nogrod taken from us, now Boro. My heart forebodes that the end will be dark for us."
"Think not of the end," said the other, laying a hand on the daunted one's shoulder. "We must break the back of this unholy alliance between Harad and Mordor! That is all. Come." "You are right," said the first, looking up. "What matters it if we die– even by the cruelest tortures these Southrons can devise. For Gondor!" "For Gondor!" Resolved afresh, the two set out down the corridor on their mission of death-dealing. But they had not gone very far when they found themselves walking slower and slower. It was as if the very air around them became gradually more dense, weighing down on them until they were unable to move a step. Somewhere in the darkness, there was a ripple of mocking laughter. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Living Sally –Messenger girl. Shasta –Particularly attentive guard-lieutenant. Pomegranate –Entertainer. A Little Green –The Empress's favourite snake-charmer. Pitchwife –Captain in the "Provisional Royal Númenórean Navy" and emissary of Angamaitë IX, Lord of Umbar. Lottie –Accident-prone sorcerer's apprentice. Inziladun –Minister of the Treasury. Lommy! –Court physician. Dead The Empress of Harad. Mod. –assassinated in her sleep. Bom Tombadillo –Greatly afflicted beggar. Ordo. –multiple stab wounds. Eruhen –Court eunuch. Ordo. –burned to death on the Empress's funeral pyre. Rikae –Empress's handmaiden. Royal Executioner. –garotted with own wire. Nogrod –Camel and coffee trader. Spy. –poisoned with own merchandise. Galadriel55 –Professional assassin. Captain of the Guard. –neck broken in stairwell fight. Legate of Amon Lanc –Legate of Khand. Ordo. –crushed to death by an enormous waggon. Steve –Court Jester (from Umbar). Envoy of Morder. –sliced up by the spies on Night Four. Boromir88 –Wealthy mûmak breeder. Spy. Trampled by own mûmakil. Day Five has begun. Nobody died.
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I'm confused.
Lommy, do you know something about this? Did you manage to dream? I said I'd reevaluate you if you wouldn't die during the Night, but I obviously didn't expect this. It would seem that we've got some cool magical powers on our side (or, well, if we count Eru's death as caused by something unnatural, then perhaps not completely on our side but affecting things around us anyway) - if it's not Lommy, then what is it? Empress's ghost?
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They didn't forget to send in the kill, did they?
At any rate, this is nothing but a great opportunity for the village. I know who my top Spy-suspicions are at the moment, and I'm very interested to see what else develops.
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The narration does indeed start with some kind of suggestion that they would've just forgotten the name. However, the end doesn't seem to suggest that, it would seem that there's something going on which isn't caused by them.
I'll have to go to a flat viewing soon, but I'll be trying to do some analysing of at least Pitch-Boro-Nog-rest of us and Lottie-Boro-Nog-rest of us-combinations toDay.
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Well, Lommy should have gotten another dream last Night. Even if her target was different than she intended, that's still significant.
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As I said yesterDay, I don't think someone casting suspicion on our known Spies is necessarily a sign of innocence. It looks to me as if pretty much everyone left has had some interactions with them. That said, I wanted to look at any noteworthy things people said about Boro or Nog, independent of Seer-info or whatnot. I'll try to get to everyone at some point (except Lommy.
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Sally is innocent.
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Still looking, Inzil?
Here. Let me help you out. ++Shasta With three known innocents in a group of seven, a second, unkillable Seer, and double lynches allowed, there is no mathematical way for us to win. Game over.
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Lommy: Because I suspected Lottie already yesterDay, and when I looked through Boro's posts I felt his suspicion for Pitch was very crafted. Apparently I was wrong on at least one, though, looking at Shasta's last post.
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Shasta: I sense some frustration in the air :P I can understand that, though. We haven't lynched a single wolf without the help of a Seer. That is somewhat sad.
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Well, when you hit a Gifted every night and still end up in a situation like this...
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Well, if it was a singular event, there was still hope for you.
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I'd been entertaining the possibility that Lommy was possibly evil in some crazy way since she didn't die last Night, but I couldn't make any headway with the thought.
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To be honest, I agree with Inzil. You have been giving up way too easy recently. I'm sure I would have at least considered whatever theory Boro could've come up with yesterDay, had he not given up, and probably again today, at least to some degree, because Lommy didn't die.
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No. There wasn't. All you have to do is double lynch from the group of 5 unconfirmed players until you win. Not exactly a difficult task. And we don't have the time to stop you. And you can both just stop with the patronization.
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No! Because I was prepared to do analyses at least for an hour or so to procrastinate before essay-writing, and since I can't do that now, and still don't have the inspiration for essay-writing, I had to create something else to do. Like patronizing.
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Assuming Shasta is a Spy, and I see no other explanation, my first guess for his packmate would be Pitch.
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Fine. I'm not going to argue about it with you. I was only saying that I still had some reason for doubt in the issue.
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Shasta - a hug. I know it probably won't help much, but you'll get one anyway.
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I'd want to keep the option of Pom open. I agree that Pitch has been acting suspicious for a while, and I've noticed that before, but I also think Pom reacted extremely jumpily to suspicion yesterDay, and though she claims Boro was trying to set her up with the connection between Boro and Pom, I don't see Boro picking her, of all people, to set up like that.
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Shasta,
... ... ... I'm sorry you feel frustrated, and I'm sorry you gave up. I'm sad if this game ends this way, even if it means village/acolyte victory. I'd choose a game where everyone has fun over a game I win, anytime. Anyway, although it's late for you, I have to disagree with your pessimism: I wish I was unkillable since I need to survive until the end in order to win, but I'm not. In fact if you want to know, the original rule was that the acolyte cannot be Night-killed* but to keep the balance, Nerwen changed it into that it is difficult to Night-kill the acolyte. Also, yesterDay, I was really positively surprised how everybody has believed me and my goodwill - Boro included. This game could have gone so differently, in so many ways. I could have chosen to side with you baddies, and you'd likely have won already. (Not because of my help, of course, but because of lack of opposition.) I could have chosen not to risk my neck and just try to get Boro lynched without revealing, and then chosen my side at the end of the Day based on whether we were going to lynch Boro (my known wolf) or someone else. (Yes, to be honest, I was very tempted to do that until it turned out most of the villagers think the acolyte is good.) The village could have suspected my sincerity. Boro could have kept fighting and in the worst case you guys would have got me lynched (I would have lost, and the village wouldn't have got a dream toDay). Even toDay, anyone could have made a case against me (that I'm some sort of shady figure operating on my own) and got people to believe it. And so many other things. My kudos for you wolves (you Shasta, dead Nog and Boro, and whoever is still hiding out there) for the gifted-slaughter and bold wolf-on-wolf. You have played well. I think you still had a realistic chance of winning. When I made my choice yesterDay** I thought you had such an upper hand that siding with the village would be fairer and make the game more even. Seems like the contrary happened - obviously I didn't mean to kill the game for you. I definitely didn't expect stuff to turn out so well for the village or that the wolves would be so demoralised. (Maybe I'm over-emphasising my own importance and actions, but obviously that's the easiest perspective for me to take.) However this is not an apology, and I hope it doesn't sound like an accusation either. My only regret is that I didn't try dreaming you, Shasta, last Night, like I originally intended. On hindsight, it would have been nicer to everybody. If you want to know, I ironically decided against it because after rereading yesterDay, I thought you looked pretty good. * I heard I may get an opportunity to switch sides if I want. I was assuming this would happen if the wolves attacked me, but I wasn't asked anything last Night. ** Yes, technically I lied when I said I already had made my choice when I revealed. The deadline for the decision was the end of yesterDay, not the Night before. Anyway making the reveal was basically siding with the village - I would have been pretty darn stupid/heroic if I had PMed Nerwen I'm siding with the wolves after that.
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Lommy, when you revealed yesterday, there was no chance that anyone would believe Boro over you even if he had fought back. Go look at people's reactions yesterday if you don't believe me. And after Boro was lynched you were guaranteed to be cleared innocent - even if I had done some type of counterclaim toDay and by some miracle been believed, and you'd been lynched, we would be in nearly the exact same situation tomorrow, with Sally clear and myself a revealed wolf. Once the Seer was replaced with a self-protecting Seer that could still dream, the wolves were just done.
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Turns out everything went quicker today than I thought, and I come back to find - this?
Oh boy. I'm sure She Who Pulls the Strings didn't mean any of this to happen, and I'm sorry for doing this to her, but my last comrade shall not die alone. *takes his place next to Shasta* ++Pitch Do your worst, minions of Mordor!
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Awww, Pitch.
I hope it makes you happier to know that when the Day started, there were two people I was almost certain were NOT wolves: you and Greenie. Risking being disrespectful in your tragic moment ![]() ~*~ I used the word of tragic a little jokingly up there, but it actually is (italics for Zil!) a tragic end to a very good game. I enjoyed it very much, even though I was very confused most of the time: the person whose guilt I was the most certain about was the ranger, and I only suspected one wolf seriously in the course of the whole game. ![]() Thanks for the game, everybody, and Nerwen especially. The end might be in sort of minor key, but let's not forget all the great stuff before that (especially my specific favourite, half of the village's fixation that Inzil was the acolyte. I still don't get where that came from! ![]()
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Now Inzil's going to be even more insufferable.
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'Tis about time this ends anyway. This land's been a nightmare - the dry heat's ruined my complexion, the local cuisine gives me diarrhea, and the coffee - no offence to Nogrod's shade, but there's a reason I'm a tea drinker.
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Well, now I feel like a heel.
Boro agrees with me, though, for what it's worth.
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Let's not forget to do the double-lynch and end this properly.
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++Shasta
It's only proper.
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I'm a stickler for procedure.
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Yes, and now someone else has to vote too keep it even!
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Thanks guys. You were amazing.
And to be honest, all I was commenting on this morning was how badly I ended up playing, suspicion-wise - I don't think I suspected any of you at any point during the game. Nog a bit, but he spoke himself out of it. After all that sharpness :P But you were REALLY good, it's sad it ended with an unfair situation like this. Lottie - thank you for suspecting me, I never get suspected and it was nice fighting with you a bit, especially as it ended up being two innocents against each other.
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