WW LXXXVII - The Valley Forge

[Galadriel55]

This looks like the loudest beginning of Day One ever.

Originally Posted by the phantom

What do you mean, "sacrifice his personal winning condition"?

Well, you can't win if you're dead. The way I understood it is that the KD wins if he's alive and all the Forge members are dead. If he dies during the game, but the Forgers are also eliminated, then he doesn't lose. But doesn't win either.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

The irrational side of me wants nothing more than to see you lynched, but the utiltarian in me says you're so remarkably useful it would be foolish to waste a dwarf of your talents.

THIS. If we only knew which side those talents are on...

Bom, I think I'm used to your weird joke-posting ways, but that "wolves - reveal!" was just plain silly.

Originally Posted by the phantom

Can anyone see anything wrong with this?

Nothing really. Except -

We are just as likely to lynch the wrong person. You might as well call it a reveal if we all agree that everyone except for the KD should do something/say something/ etc. If the KD realy stands out by acting suspicious on purpose, it amounts to the same thing. It's like, "ok, KD, we all step back and you make yourself look like a wolf, and then we know who you are". It's the revealing-without-actually-revealing scenario.

So we would have to find the KD based on "trying to look ordinary like everyone else" behaviour. And that brings us back to the classical WW game plan. We're just as likely to lynch a a notable ordo as the KD. Or get the Watchdwarf or sweetheart. Or fenris a wolf.

I'm not really sure if what I just said makes sense. It probably doesn't. I don't even remember what was my point when I started writing this. But anyways, I have nothing against that plan, except that maybe we should give equal attention to the wolves as the KD instead of focusing only on the latter.

Edit: xed with Eruhen, Pitch, and tp

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Until someone convinces me otherwise I'm trying to kill the KD today actually. But as you said, any effort will require some luck.

A great deal of luck. Singling out someone as potentially evil because they're making allegations or whatnot, is basically what happens all the time, and gets innocents lynched.

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

You might as well call it a reveal if we all agree that everyone except for the KD should do something/say something/ etc. If the KD realy stands out by acting suspicious on purpose, it amounts to the same thing. It's like, "ok, KD, we all step back and you make yourself look like a wolf, and then we know who you are". It's the revealing-without-actually-revealing scenario.

I think that sort of thing might be frowned upon by the moddess, judging from things she's said in the Admin Thread (*cough* Sally *cough*)

x/d with Pitch, tp, and Eruhen.