WW LXXV: It's Always Tea Time Here

[satansaloser2005]

Nienna, Glirdan's a wolf. A WOLF! LYNCH HIM!@

I'm surrounded by mad people.

[satansaloser2005]

Clearly this has all been planned by warriors from the village.

KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THEM!

(Also, what the heck? I really was trying to help Lottie avoid a first-Day lynch because I know they suck. And I figured Leggie was the cobbler and we could bus him quite easily. Alas, no. Darn.)


EDIT: Meep! x'd with the Moddess

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Nienna, Glirdan's a wolf. A WOLF! LYNCH HIM!@

I'm surrounded by mad people.

This Post has been buzzing through my head All Day...

If Glirdan's innocent and we lynched him we'd just lynch Sally today... So what pay off would there be to lie? To last One more day?

I think Glirdan's a wolf... Sally I think was planning a False Seer reveal, just look at this post:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Inzil: Not a wolf. Plain and simple. Don't ask me how I know, I just do.

The move only makes sense to gain our trust... Gaining one day isn't worth it. I mean 4 out of 16.... 3 out of 16 still gives us lots of time still I just don't see a one day gain worth it.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

This Post has been buzzing through my head All Day...

If Glirdan's innocent and we lynched him we'd just lynch Sally today... So what pay off would there be to lie? To last One more day?

I think Glirdan's a wolf... Sally I think was planning a False Seer reveal, just look at this post:



The move only makes sense to gain our trust... Gaining one day isn't worth it. I mean 4 out of 16.... 3 out of 16 still gives us lots of time still I just don't see a one day gain worth it.

I guess it's possible. And now that I think of it, if Glirdan had been lynched and he was a wolf, Sally could be in some pretty good graces right now, even without a false Seer-reveal.
Still, I don't know that it's all that likely Glirdan is a wolf.

x/d with Morsul again

[Morsul the Dark]

I know this will be an unpopular move however I'm going with my gut on this one.

++Glirdan

It got me one wolf so maybe It'll get me another.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

I know this will be an unpopular move however I'm going with my gut on this one.

[*Highlight]++Glirdan[/Highlight*]

It got me one wolf so maybe It'll get me another.

First off, this really does look bad, Morsul. Secondly, what, exactly, do you mean by "It"? Voting early? Bandwaggoning? Because that's what you're doing, and it's not a very good method of getting wolves.

Sadly, I don't think this particularly means that he's a wolf. He just has a strange and somewhat silly style. (Ooh alliteration! And that's not meant to be an insult, dear, I'm just sayin'.) I don't particularly suspect him...but I don't trust him or his logic either, and I don't trust him to do what's necessarily best for the village. (Side note: I'd think he was the cobbler if I didn't know Fea was, rather than a wolf.)

[Nienna]

Morsul, that line from Sally has been bothering me as well. I think that the chances are actually quite high that Glirdy is a wolf. She may have been thinking that if I switched and he was a wolf she would be redeemed or she could make a false seer-reveal and if she was lynched it could be passed off as the meaningless banter of a wolf trying to save herself.

Edit: x-ed

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Well, looks as if I backed the wrong horse there. Glirdan could technically still be a wolf, but I doubt it. It's not so much his words toward the end of yesterDay that make him look better (I still say his attack looked evil), but this from Sallywolf:




That looks like real panic, trying to convince Nienna to vote Glirdan instead of her. If Nienna had done so and Glirdan was a wolf, the pack would be in the same situation they are now.

That said, I fully intend to vote Mira toDay, barring some major developments.

x/d with Morsul

Let's try putting ourselves in Salwolf's shoes, working under the assumption that Glirdy is her packmate. She was about to die. She was currently two votes ahead of her packmate. If Nienna switched votes, Glirdy would die and she would look better come Morning because she'd helped kill a wolf. If Nienna didn't, her packmate would look better come Morning becaues a wolf had tried to kill him.

If he were an innocent, of course, she'd probably do the same, but my point is, don't write him off just because of what Sally said at endDay.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Let's try putting ourselves in Salwolf's shoes, working under the assumption that Glirdy is her packmate. She was about to die. She was currently two votes ahead of her packmate. If Nienna switched votes, Glirdy would die and she would look better come Morning because she'd helped kill a wolf. If Nienna didn't, her packmate would look better come Morning becaues a wolf had tried to kill him.

If he were an innocent, of course, she'd probably do the same, but my point is, don't write him off just because of what Sally said at endDay.

Like I said, now that I think about it, it's not as outlandish a possibility as I'd thought. That line from Sally didn't look staged to me, more like a spur-of-the-moment thing, which was what gave me pause.
The reason I voted Glirdan was that I thought his attack on Sally looked too aggressive and opportunitstic, and I really thought she'd probably turn out to be innocent.
Can it be that easy?

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Like I said, now that I think about it, it's not as outlandish a possibility as I'd thought. That line from Sally didn't look staged to me, more like a spur-of-the-moment thing, which was what gave me pause.
The reason I voted Glirdan was that I thought his attack on Sally looked too aggressive and opportunitstic, and I really thought she'd probably turn out to be innocent.
Can it be that easy?

I think it can be that easy. I don't think Sally was planning on getting caught. Besides, the last two wolves might be using their two packmates as distractions in order to try to slip back into the village unnoticed. They probably won't be too eager to save Glirdy, no matter what role he is.

[Loslote]

Trust unreservedly:
Lottie

Trust nearly unreservedly:
Nog
Zil
Shasta
Nienna
Legate
Lommy

Trust more or less:
Brinn
Mira
Nerwen
Morsul
Skip

Unsure:
Wintywinty
Agan

Suspect:
Glirdan
Greenie

Will only vote those in the latter two categories. Preferably Glirdy.

EDIT: xed

[Brinniel]

Morsul does make a good point and it's certainly a possibility. But it could go either way. It's also possible Sally was making a double bluff and he's in fact innocent.

Glirdan entered the Day late and went through the thread page by page. He started suspecting Sally from the very beginning, and I'm not sure it's clear whether he was aware she was ahead in votes when he was posting these opinions. Though if he were a wolf, I would suspect he would check the vote tally first....if innocent, maybe not. Would an evil Glirdan go after his packmate so eagerly from the beginning of his posts for the Day? If they were both wolves, it would make sense for them to go against each other at the very end since a wolf will be lynched either way. But I don't think Glirdan was a serious candidate until the end of the Day and he started suspecting Sally before that. I suppose if he saw the vote tally and decided she was a lost cause, he could've chosen to throw her under the bus to make himself look better.

Hmm...this is something to think about. It seems quite possible Glirdan is indeed a wolf, but it's definitely something we can't be certain of. It'd be a really good idea to review both Sally and Glirdan's posts from the last two Days. Unfortunately, I will have to pass that task onto someone else as I need to write a debate due tomorrow I haven't even started. I'll be available for the next several hours to make brief comments, but I just won't have any time to write anything very substantial toDay.

[Inziladun]

Well, looks as if I backed the wrong horse there. Glirdan could technically still be a wolf, but I doubt it. It's not so much his words toward the end of yesterDay that make him look better (I still say his attack looked evil), but this from Sallywolf:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Nienna, Glirdan's a wolf. A WOLF! LYNCH HIM!@

That looks like real panic, trying to convince Nienna to vote Glirdan instead of her. If Nienna had done so and Glirdan was a wolf, the pack would be in the same situation they are now.

That said, I fully intend to vote Mira toDay, barring some major developments.

x/d with Morsul

[Morsul the Dark]

Yeah but Inzil I think a false seer reveal would gain her more time than the one day gained from the lynch.

I don't understand the motivation otherwise.