WWLXX: At the Prison of Ice

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Well, Brinn, Werewolf can be a simple game. I have reasons for finding the Mnemo voters probably innocent, for now at least. After a few days we can examine more theories but for now, when we still have so many people alive in this expedition, I'm not going to complicate things.

Aye, they could have voted wolf-on-wolf, but I won't bother seriously entertaining that possibility - because I have four other villagers in my sight who are, to my mind, obviously more suspicious.

Or should I say susp-ice-ous?

Yes, yes I should.

[Macalaure]

My problem right now is that evidence and feeling arr quite far apart for me right now.

By evidence:
Good: Eomer, Lommy, Green
Quite good: Lottie (after reveal), Pitch, Nerwen
Unsure: Boro, Morsul, Brinn, Nogrod (ranked him a bit too low in my list above, I guess)
Quite bad: Bes, Wilwa
Bad: Nienna, Sally, Shasta

By feeling:
Good: Boro, Lottie, Nerwen, Green
Quite good: Eomer, Pitch, Sally, Shasta
Unsure: Morsul, Nienna, Bes, Wilwa
Quite bad: Brinn, Nogrod, Lommy
Bad: ./.

My feeling is undeservedly bad on Brinn, Nogrod, and esp. Lommy, and undeservedly good on Nienna, Shasta, and Sally, all those that are really bad by evidence (Boro, too, but I'm not so worried about him). I have to try and figure this out toDay. No time right now, but a few hours before the deadline I will be there most of the time.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

My problem right now is that evidence and feeling arr quite far apart for me right now.

By evidence:
Good: Eomer, Lommy, Green
Quite good: Lottie (after reveal), Pitch, Nerwen
Unsure: Boro, Morsul, Brinn, Nogrod (ranked him a bit too low in my list above, I guess)
Quite bad: Bes, Wilwa
Bad: Nienna, Sally, Shasta

By feeling:
Good: Boro, Lottie, Nerwen, Green
Quite good: Eomer, Pitch, Sally, Shasta
Unsure: Morsul, Nienna, Bes, Wilwa
Quite bad: Brinn, Nogrod, Lommy
Bad: ./.

My feeling is undeservedly bad on Brinn, Nogrod, and esp. Lommy, and undeservedly good on Nienna, Shasta, and Sally, all those that are really bad by evidence (Boro, too, but I'm not so worried about him). I have to try and figure this out toDay. No time right now, but a few hours before the deadline I will be there most of the time.

Your opinion's got a pretty wide range there doesn't it, Mac? (However, while I still don't see the problem with me, I'll second you on Shasta and Nienna; I'll have to give them both another look but alas I fell asleep on the job last night and wasn't that productive.) Need to get ready for work but I was analyzing Lottie last night so I'll finish that as I dash about.

[Nienna]

I just wanted to let everyone know I'll be gone from now until about an hour before deadline.

Make good choices.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nienna

I just wanted to let everyone know I'll be gone from now until about an hour before deadline.

Make good choices.

Will do, precious. Have a good day.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Interesting discussion so far. Many long words. I found it inspiring. I'd try to understand it, but honestly, I'm too lazy. I'll just say Nog was being very scientific and Mnemo, for some reason, doesn't appreciate the lack of showers. Meh...not too much to comment on, is there?

Nothing here.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Agreed. McCaber's game was just painful. Let's try to avoid tons of reveals and false-reveals and counter-reveals and such. They pretty much just make major headaches. And like Nienna said, it's not really helpful.

Deadline is iffy for me, too, but I should be around. It's noon my time, but I probably can get on around eleven...here's hoping.

Past-game commentary and a caution for people not to reveal. *wonders about this* Other than that, nothing.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Yes. They ended up being helpful. Mostly because no one knew what was going on. And remember, we skipped over the wolf in the batch, Morsul, and left him alive for much longer than he probably would have lasted otherwise. Plus, I had already written "for Morsul was the Agent" in my poem, and when I finally figured out what had happened, the poem was already ruined.

Again, more past and meta conversation.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Here and reading.

Nada.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Okay, I'll have to vote way early. Deadline problems again...and I have no idea who to vote for.

Inzil and Mac don't look furry to me, so I don't think I'll be voting for them.

Morsul is suspicious looking, but then, I always suspect him, mostly because I can't follow his logic.

I've never played with Eomer before, but he seems to be making sense, so I don't think I'd vote for him today unless something extreme happens.

I can't get a read on Boro, despite the 'issue' yesterDay - or maybe because of it.

Brinn is another one I always suspect. This game I think she's good, which worries me...gah. Enough paranoia.

Pitchie looks suspicious, but I don't have anything solid yet. I think I will look more closely at him.

Mnemo doesn't seem furry, but I'm not anywheres near certain, and am not crossing her off the list anytime soon.

I haven't gotten much read on Nienna yet.

Nogrod is the most suspicious yet...but even he doesn't scream wolf...more like whisper it.

Not getting much from Sally, either.

Lommy seems suspicious, but I have no reason for it.

Nerwen looks good. At least, I haven't seen anything that doesn't seem genuine yet.

Bes is new. I don't know his style yet, but he does seem a tad bit off. I'll look at him later, probably not toDay.

I don't think Shasta's a wolf...but I can't quite tell.

Wilwa hasn't been around much due to RL. Understandable.

Haven't picked much up on Greenie yet, either.

Tromkehra's new, too. Can't tell very much, but his (her?) repeated posing in role kind of rankles...but not in a particularly furry way...

That turned into a list. I wasn't actually expecting that. I do lists a lot, don't I?

EDIT: xed with Shasta, Morsul, and Mnemo

Morsul is automatically suspicious, Eomer being reasonable earns him a get out of jail free card, has no opinion (or rather seems to be avoiding having an opinion) on Mnemo, suspects Brinn, Nog, Pitch, and Lommie but doesn’t know why. Thinks Shasta’s okay, and isn’t sure about Kehra. I know I’m hardly one to talk, but this seems like a list for the sake of a list.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Really, I think only Nog, Lommy, and Bes look at all wolvish to me. I suppose Morsul, Mnemo, or Pitchie could also be wolves, but I seriously don't have any reasons.

EDIT: xed with wilwa

Suspicious: Nog, Lommie, Bess, as well as Morsul, Mnemo, and Pitch. No reasoning, and says she doesn’t have any to offer. Which is pretty impressive considering that she just did a suspicion list in her last post. (Of course as I mentioned the list wasn’t that intricate but it’s the principle of the thing. Seems to me like repeating herself for the sake of looking useful.)

Originally Posted by Loslote

This again: the post is manipulative and confusing. "It's one of those things a player is not allowed to produce evidence for" - that's where Roa thought he was trying to hint that he was a seer. One of the other gifteds could fit here, too - and we know that Roa wasn't trying to mislead us now.

"Which is actually just fair" - a weak sentence on its own. The subject is 'which' - this naturally confuses the reader. Which is not a strong subject. The verb 'is' happens to be a linking verb. Linking verbs are weak verbs, and confuse readers. 'Actually just fair' - do I really have to break this down? It's three descriptions, one after the other. One would have done the job, and would have been much easier to read.

This is another point of interest to me (especially given her recent ‘reveal’). Then she just picks at Noggie’s grammar. *hugs him* So not a lot.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Erm...yeah...didn't know that one. The wording makes more sense now...

EDIT: xed with Inzil

Just got corrected (well, you know) on why Nog’s sentence structure isn’t perfect. Nada.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Looking at Lommy.

Post 1: She is busy, won't be able to post much. She's happy to be playing.

List:

Inzil seems okay but she doesn't want to jump to conclusions.
Mnemosyne she distrusts.
Boromir88 she thinks is acting strangely but not suspiciously.
Eomer hasn't been around.
Me : she thought I could be anything but said I was funny. (Thanks!)
Morsul she had no idea about.
Brinn seems normal; could be anything.
Pitchwife was funny and nice; Lommy thought maybe too nice.
Nienna she thought looked suspicious and didn't know why everyone was saying she wasn't.
Nogrod she thought was bantering too much to be quite normal.
Macalaure she makes reference to an old game.
sally she forgot to say anything about.
Thinlómien identifies herself and flies away. I'm guessing this was joking.
Nerwen is controversial; Lommy doesn't think she would be as a wolf.
Roa she thought was innocent.
Bes she appreciated seeing him, but wanted to see him more.
Shasta she thought seemed good.
wilwa hasn't been around.
Greenie was waiting on her.
tromkehra she wanted to see more out of character posts.

I have to go now, and won't be on again until toMorrow. So...

++Lommy

So….I know she’s mentioned this before but even with no time, if you’re going to make yourself look purposefully ridiculously (no offense, dear) guilty I think it’d be better to say nothing at all. I also find it interesting that she voted Lommie and not Nog at this stage.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Here and reading.

Nada.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Sorry about yesterDay. I had planned to look at all of her posts, but I hadn't even finished her first when I had to go. I barely managed to finish that one. In hindsight, I probably should have just dropped that Post 1 analysis, but...

In hindsight she shouldn’t have appeared to vote based on Lommie’s suspicion list, silly post in her analysis or no. This post looks again intentionally apologetic(ish) and pleasing for the sake of looking better.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Looking at people:

Boro is fairly logical and makes sense most of the time, but I can't quite get a reading on him.

Eomer I have no idea about, but probably innocent.

I don't think Morsul is a wolf, but I can't say with anything like certainty that he's an ordo.

I think Brinn's innocent...we just get on each other's nerves...

Pitchie seems innocent, maybe too much so? I'm not too worried about him right now, though.

Nienna seems good. She's one of the ones I feel most confident about...not that that's very confident...

Something still feels off about Nogrod, but I can't put my finger on it.

I thought Mac looked good yesterday, and I think so even more now. When he mentioned that we wouldn't learn too much from my role if I died, and more from Mnemo's - that seemed ordoish.

I don't know what to think about sally. She doesn't jump out as a wolf, but she's done some things that make me think.

Lommy, as you may have noticed, definitely looks furry to me. I still have no proof or reasoning, so I'll probably ease back on that one.

Nerwen looks genuine.

Bes still looks suspicious to me. He is a newbie, so I'm not looking very hard at him yet, but I do think he could easily be a wolf.

Shasta could go either way for me.

Wilwa looks suspicious, but she's not at the top of my list.

Greenie I'm not sure about.

So, Suspicious:
Bes, Lommy, and Nog still look the worst to me.

Slightly suspicious:
Wilwa, sally, and maybe Pitchie.

Unsure:
Shasta, Greenie, Morsul

Leaning innocent:
Brinn, Boro, Eomer

Probably innocent:
Nerwen, Nienna, Mac.

EDIT: xed with wilwa and Mac

And again, nothing. She’s allegedly looked at all Lommie’s posts (even if she didn’t type notes on all of them) but she has nothing to say on her? Rubbish. Even I’ve got something to say on someone by this stage in the game. Also, the comment about Mac looking ordo-ish based on him wanting to learn more about Mnemo’s role looked strange to me, almost too calculated and possibly petting a mate or someone else she might be in cahoots with. No idea (and while I know from personal experience that Mac’s got no qualms about bussing people I’m not sure Lottie would hold the same philosophy).

Originally Posted by Loslote

Oh, and just to get this out of the way, because I know it's going to come up...

Don't lynch me toDay, because I am the Secret Role. I am a limited seer. I have only one dream, on Night Four - aka, toNight.

I don't know how much longer I'll have online, but I should be able to get on later. Hopefully. Until then, have fun being chaotic.

Ahhhh, well then. Perfect timing, precious. I’m just ready to vote you and you come along and say “Don’t lynch me, I’m the magical one-hit wonder pixie dust and cake seer! I’m special!” Again, don’t know her style that well but at this point she wasn’t the main suspect so I’m concerned about why she felt it necessary to reveal now. (Then again, since this game we don’t have retractables I’ll give her that point.)

Originally Posted by Loslote

Oh, well. Looking at Bes:

Post 1: IC banter, comments on the Boro issue, suggests no one votes Day 1.

Post 2: Backs off when Roa and Mnemo veto the 'no voting' suggestion.

Post 3: IC banter, says he's going to sleep.

Post 4: Says he's reading up and waiting for Legate to answer a question on the rules.

Post 5: Backpedals on the Boro issue; says he doesn't know what to think about Nog and Roa; votes Mac because Inzil's arguments looked best.

Post 6: Apologizes for his hasty Mac vote earlier; promises to be more careful.

Post 7: Summarizes Mac's posts; says Pitchie looked just as suspicious

Post 8: Says he won't be voting; promises to post more on Day 3 if he's still here.

He hasn't come on again, but when you look at him, he never really says anything...might just be newbieness, might be wolfishness. As he's my top suspect,

++Bes

So sorry if you're innocent...

Whoa, what happened to Lommie being your top suspect? That’s a switch!


All in all I’m very confused by Lottie and very concerned. The trouble with this is that the more I look at Lottie the worse she looks to me, and yet there’s people I’m more worried about. Gah, I hate being so torn; this is why I voted for her yesterday, because she looks completely strange and rather guilty and obviously those are the types I automatically suspect. (Wow, that sentence got away from me.) Moral of the story is that yes, I want to lynch her, because I think she’s got insane amounts of guilt and fur, but I will agree with the others who stated it that, on the off chance she’s telling the truth, I’ll save her until toMorrow and worry about others. But Lottie, don’t think you’re off the hook.



*A note: Sorry for the lack of bolding and stuff. I've really got to get a move on, but if I've the chance I'll be going back and fixing the formatting when I get to the office. In advance, as always, no actual content will be changed. Just an fyi.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Within 40 minutes Mnemo changes from "don't really feel suspicious of her," to "fairly ok with."
#381 votes Boro (ties me with Mnemo), as she previously stated

.....

Look at #363 too when she's trying to figure out who to vote, Mnemo's got 2 and everyone else has 1. She doesn't want to add another name, so she looks at everyone with votes. Trying to figure out who would be a good one to tie Mnemo with, but by the time you go and vote you realize you've only said I'm making you "uneasy?" Besides, throwing a random "maybe Pitch" in there? I have no reservations about calling wilwa a wolf.

First, what really is the difference between "not really suspicious" and "fairly ok"??? You're making it sound like that's some huge jump, but really it's not, they're practically the same. And I wasn't suspicious enough of Mnemo to vote for her, so of course whoever I would have voted for would have caused a tie with her, it's just the way it was when I wanted to vote, and there was no way I was bringing someone else into the mix. Would you have rathered I voted for her when I wasn't suspicious of her?? Cause that wouldn't have made me look bad at all It seems no matter how logical my first vote is in a game, it always manages to make me look bad, I swear I'm cursed.



About Lottie's reveal, I'm not really sure about it. First, a 1 dream seer, and on Night 4, doesn't really seem like that great of a secret role (no offense to Mr. Mod if it really is the secret role). Second, she wasn't yet in that much danger of being lynched, so I think that decision was a little rushed. And the Ranger thing isn't guaranteed, what if the Ranger protected Lottie last Night, or we lynch the Ranger today by accident? She's not guaranteed safety. I'm not saying I completely don't believe her, but the whole thing just seems a bit weird. But I suppose there's nothing more to do then to just wait it out.


So.....I don't really feel all that suspicious of anyone, which I hate and it always seems to be the same way with me every game. Just Nog a bit, but really just because of the way Mnemo felt about him, not really anything else, so not anything concrete there and then Boro uneasiness, which I won't pursue anymore for now because 1) I don't have anything concrete, I'm aware of that fact, and 2) no one else seems to be finding anything wrong with him so I'm probably just imagining things. Basically, I have no ideas and I have to vote within the next 2 hours. So....I need to go read everything again.

Now don't jump on me if I come back in an hour or two *suddenly* suspecting someone.

edit: x'ed with Nog and Sally x3

[satansaloser2005]

A list in order:

Lottie
Lommie (?)
Nerwen

Shasta, you should be well aware of this list, because you're really close to it. Nienna too but not so much based on a few observations I've made, so I'll back off of her for a bit and look at others.

[Nerwen]

My apologies for lack of participation toDay– I've been working to a deadline.

I'll need to vote shortly and won't have time to do any proper analyses, so I'll just be picking someone who looks generally suspicious.

I haven't read the latest posts yet– back soon.

[Thinlómien]

Shasta - I don't like it that he can't be around much and he uses all the energy he has to defend himself against random accusations instead of finding a wolf.

Brinn - this just struck me as a very lupine thing to say:

Originally Posted by Brinn

If I were a wolf with Nienna, chances are I'd be throwing her under the bus rather than saving her. Because with her vote record, she'd probably deserve it. Sorry Nienna.

In the past, I've had no problems with lynching a fellow wolf if I thought that was necessary to make myself look better and/or they were drawing enough attention to themselves anyway. Which is probably why I'm wary of the Mnemo voters. I know I'm not the only player here that doesn't mind throwing a fellow wolf under the bus.

Makes me actually wonder if Brinn's a wolf and Nienna's an innocent...


edit: xed with Niennax2 and Sally

[Nienna]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Makes me actually wonder if Brinn's a wolf and Nienna's an innocent...

This does not make me feel any less wary of you... considering I think Brinn is right on track.

Edit: x-ed with Mac

[Boromir88]

Now up and continuing...

Shasta

Day 1-
#171 doesn't see anything on Mnemo and Mac, votes Inzil.
Day 2-
#220 defends Day 1 vote saying he wasn't "sure" about Mac and Mnemo's innocence, but Inzil looked the least innocent of the three.
#234 doesn't trust Nerwen, her vote could have been to kill Mac, or to save Inzil or possibly Mnemo.
#354 votes Nerwen (1/1), confirms what Nienna said about his Day 1 vote.

I believe he was voting to save Mac and Mnemo not necessarily to kill Zil... does that make sense? ...and Shasta feel free to correct me as I'm speaking about something that might be untrue.

I don't think his Day 1 vote looks bad. In principle it's not bad to cast a vote to save someone you think is more innocent. I don't think the most suspicious part is his defense of voting for Inzil, but the fact that he doesn't trust Nerwen's Day 1 vote, because her vote could have been to save Inzil or Mnemo (or kill Mac). Now, Shasta said he was voting not to kill Inzil because he really thought he was a wolf, but to save Mac and Mnemo who he thought looked more innocent. If you weren't all that suspicious of Inzil in the first place, then why jump on Nerwen's vote?

Then his Day 2 vote is suspicious, not in wilwa's way, but by adding in another name to the pot a Shasta-wolf could have been hoping Mnemo would have gotten lost in the mix of names. Shasta looks highly suspicious, but I'm not willing to rule out being a misled innocent just yet.

Bes

Day 1- #42 notes Roa and Mnemo's point about lynching people on Day 1.

And that was the only time I noticed Bes say something to Mnemo. Possibly a wolf trying to keep at a distance, but that's weak paranoid speculation on my part. Based on interaction with Mnemo, he looks ok.

Nerwen

Day 1- Nada, intended to vote Mac.
Day 2-
#268 Mnemo suddenly looks sinister (I believe referring to #263)
#277 still not liking Mnemo
#293 thinks sally hacked into Mnemo's account
#293 debates Mnemo or Lottie
#301 votes Mnemo (1/7) but expresses uncertainty about it.

First to vote for Mnemo, which could be a wolf-on-wolf spot, but like Greenie everything matches up with Nerwen. She was the first to notice Mnemo was very different than from Day 1. It appeared to take Nerwen (and several others) by surprise. Even though everyone could see it (shouldn't say everyone, because I chose to ignore it completely), why would another wolf draw attention to it? I have no reservations about assuming Nerwen innocent.

Lommy

Day 1-
#58 a list and Mnemo is quite "eye-brow raising"
#95 suspects Mnemo a bit
#151 could vote for Nienna or Mnemo
#157 doesn't want to be the 3rd straight vote for Mnemo, because that would start a band-wagon and doesn't think Mnemo deserves it.
#163 Nienna would be a throw away, so Nog or Mnemo...
#168 votes Mnemo (3/3)
Day 2-
#273 Mnemo is odd and leaning towards guilty
#328 Mnemo and sally both raising eye-brows. Mnemo slightly more
#350 would be least sorry to lynch Mnemo
#362 votes Mnemo (and breaks the massive tie of 1-vote getters)

Voted for Mnemo twice which makes her look very innocent. Also the placement of her 2-votes don't make sense for being wolf-on-wolf. Unless if for Day 2 Mnemo was planning to go sacrificial, but even then it doesn't make sense considering #328 where Lommy makes the astute point:

And Mnemo has got about as many defenders as accusers.

This is worthy of more consideration. But first it's time to continue the increasingly lame use of playing with ice puns...Mnemo was definitely polar-izing! Ok, back to Lommy. Anyway, Lommy makes that point, and if a fellow-wolf notices that Mnemo has still quite a lot of defenders, why put her in the lead at that point?

One more thing for you Lommy, don't take offense, it's further attempt to offer help. From Day 1, from #157

Darn, Eomer's vote for Mnemo makes me hesitant to vote her, because that would turn the Mnemo-votes to a bandwagon and I'm not sure if she deserves that.

Now, I've come to expect a certain flippety-floppety from you, but that's just silly. You were going to vote for Mnemo, but were seriously considering not to because then it would be a bandwagon? Then you wind up casting the 3rd vote anyway (albeit Bes voted for Mac inbetween) but how could you rationalize that you still weren't bandwagoning? *sigh of disbelief*

For a normal person, I would be scratching my head at that silly line of reasoning, and seriously consider it for looking wolf-on-wolf. But, you are not normal, and strangely enough I understand the Finns are much nicer, and more considerate than me. Seriously though, realize you've got skillz at this and don't doubt yourself so much, least of all for something as silly as not wanting to bandwagon.

Edit: crossed with Mac

[Thinlómien]

I wish I had time to reread all for myself, but that's not case due to my bad timing (again). Anyway, I trust Wilwa's version of Mnemo's sayings, especially if Nerwen verifies it. And I guess it's ok to trust voting summaries too.

Loslote confuses me, mostly because when I saw her list post I was screaming "GUILTY!" to my screen and in the next post she claims to have the secret role. But I agree with whoever it was who suggested waiting at least until toMorrow. At this point, we would harm ourselves much more by distrusting her than by trusting her.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Nienna's votes look the worst as she has tried to save Mnemo two Days in a row. The only thing that bothers me there is why she voted for Lommy and not Lottie yesterDay (she could have made it 5-5)? Maybe she thought it would have been too obvious... but not taking sides at that point between the two only real candidates would look bad anyway...

It's easy to fall to that trap as a wolf, I know, I've done it sometimes. It's the sort of "uncertain wolf" approach: not voting a fellow so as not to abandon the hope s/he might be saved after all but not voting on another serious lynch candidate either because that would be too incriminating. If you think of it, it's not very smart, but it's very easy to do it if you're unsure/torn.

Originally Posted by Eomer

Remember the early days, when some of us would reference ourselves in lists as: definitely innocent, impeccably honest and true, and pretty darn handsome too, if I may say so; so handsome, in fact, that were he a wolf, he would have been murdered a long time ago by a pack of envious lupine males.

These days are not over.

Awwww.

Morsul's self-vote is weird, but I guess it makes sense by his logic. And it makes me feel good about him: I think a wolf would be more paranoid and careful and thus not vote himself but cast a random vote.

Originally Posted by Boro

Now, I've come to expect a certain flippety-floppety from you, but that's just silly. You were going to vote for Mnemo, but were seriously considering not to because then it would be a bandwagon? Then you wind up casting the 3rd vote anyway (albeit Bes voted for Mac inbetween) but how could you rationalize that you still weren't bandwagoning? *sigh of disbelief*

For a normal person, I would be scratching my head at that silly line of reasoning, and seriously consider it for looking wolf-on-wolf. But, you are not normal, and strangely enough I understand the Finns are much nicer, and more considerate than me. Seriously though, realize you've got skillz at this and don't doubt yourself so much, least of all for something as silly as not wanting to bandwagon.

Aww, it's my personal Dr Phil again! But it's really that I didn't suspect Mnemo so much, especially not on Day1. (Actually, when I read the news about her role at the end of yesterDay, I was slightly surprised, or more like "wow, I was correct" than "I told you so"...) And because I didn't really have much to go on, I didn't want her to die because of my vague suspicions, but then I reached the conclusion I suspect her more than anyone else anyway so she deserves my vote.

And here comes a quick list about my current feelings

Innocent
Greenie
Morsul
Loslote (?)

Probably innocent
Pitch
Nog
Boro

More innocent than guilty
Nerwen
Eomer
Bes

More guilty than innocent
Brinn
Mac
Wilwa

Probably guilty
Sally
Nienna
Shasta

Guilty
At least two of the previous cathegory and one from either there or somewhere else...

Ha! It goes 3-3-3-3-3! Nice. I'll be back later and I can elaborate on stuff then.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Lommy

I wish I had time to reread all for myself, but that's not case due to my bad timing (again). Anyway, I trust Wilwa's version of Mnemo's sayings, especially if Nerwen verifies it. And I guess it's ok to trust voting summaries too.

~~~

And here comes a quick list about my current feelings

Innocent
Greenie
Morsul
Loslote (?)

Probably innocent
Pitch
Nog
Boro

More innocent than guilty
Nerwen
Eomer
Bes

More guilty than innocent
Brinn
Mac
Wilwa

Probably guilty
Sally
Nienna
Shasta

Guilty
At least two of the previous cathegory and one from either there or somewhere else...

Ha! It goes 3-3-3-3-3! Nice. I'll be back later and I can elaborate on stuff then.

Interesting. She trusts Wilwa's analysis but puts her in the probably guilty category, and puts Pitchie in the probably innocent category. Hm...