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Here they are. I left out a few of the random banter ones from the beginning. But I'm pretty sure I got all the others, don't think I missed any. No commentary here from me, just wanted to make those available. I might come back to her though, if I have the time.
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Well, interesting turns of events, to say the least. They failed to guard you, Boro, so I trust you didn't have a hand in poor Mnemo's death!
![]() I regret being part of Kitanna's, but her vote and guard struck me as wrong, and no one else was screaming for my vote. I haven't seen anything much of note in Kit's words, beyond what Wilwa noted about the 'red flag' comment. Nor Mnemo's. The choice of her as a target seems rather random. I would be curious as to the details of her 'crack theory' about Wilwa though. Nerwen, if you would be so kind, a song might cheer our hearts. What to do with the Legate? *takes a drink of stock ale*
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The Voting:
Lynch: Nilp--> Nilp I believe this is fairly typical. Mnemo--> Wilwa a theory that Im sad we will now never know Brinn--> McCaber because he hadnt posted and she didnt find anyone suspicious Nerwen--> Kit thinks she was jittery about the seer reveal plan (which is in hindsight understandable) but there was something that didnt sit right with her. She acknowledges that she doesnt really have a proper case against Kit but says she doesnt have a proper case against anyone. Im leaning innocent for her at the moment. Shasta--> Lommy not sure why he mentioned that he thought she looked odd earlier and that he had a busy day. Kit--> Brinn doesnt like that she voted for McCaber because he wasnt participating. She understands random votes but not the voting for someone who isnt participating. I dont think that Brinn was the dream. Boro--> Kit he thought that her reactions to Mnemos plan were suspicious as well as her lynch-vote for Brinn. He had been suspicious of Kit for a while Im leaning slightly closer to innocent than guilty for him. Zil--> Kit he doesnt like her vote for Brinn. This seems like a wolf jumping on a bandwagon to me. Greenie--> Nog she doesnt like how he went after Lommy and his post where he ends with So (quoted in her 95). She believes that it looks really evil and she finds him more suspicious than she has ever found anyone on Day One before. Interesting. McCaber--> Wilwa for silly discussion on the previous pages that could have an adverse effect to the village's safety Hakon--> Legate he feels off Pitchwife--> Kit for lack of something better he wavered between suspecting her and not suspecting her Legate--> Wilwa to give Kit some lynch competition it would seem. This looks innocent.[/sarcasm] Nienna--> Zil Wilwa--> Kit doesnt like voting without suspicion but wants to save herself Nog--> Greenie she is either too trigger happy or evil for voting for him and too much rhetorics. Lommy--> Kit she isnt sure why everyone is suspicious of Wilwa Sally--> Kit she mentions that she thinks Kit a bit suspicious but it might be too easy Guard: Mnemo--> Boro no real reason given except that she grouped him with Legate and Nog as reasonable people who are heckawolves and interesting to keep around. So this sounds like she guarded Boro because he could be innocent or guilty and she likes having him around. Brinn--> Legate she believes him innocentish, sensible, and reasonable. Sally--> Mnemo she believes her to be innocent and would be a good person to have on her side because she was coming up with new theories (the seer thing) Nerwen--> Legate because he is a likely target if innocent and he has been worrying her a little so he was a good choice in her mind no matter how you look at it Kit--> Hakon hasnt posted yet so would be an easy no-trail kill. I dont believe he was her dream though. Shasta--> Legate he (along with Lommy) looked odd. Boro--> Nienna he mentioned earlier that I have good instincts Zil--> Boro he wants to keep Boro around but he doesnt want grief if he (Zil) is wrong about him (Boro). Yep Zil is still flashing wolf at me. Nog--> Legate to find out whether he is a wolf or not (I believe) Greenie--> Nienna Nienna--> Mnemo Hakon--> Boro he feels innocent Pitchwife--> Boro no reason (unless this is also for lack of something better) Lommy--> Legate to know his role If Legate is a wolf this would seem to point toward Lommys innocence Legate--> Lommy interestingly he doesnt try to guard someone with more votes so as to maybe not be guarded so we dont find out he is furry. Wilwa--> Legate (not bolded ?... does this mean it doesnt count?)
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Another list, just cause they are crazy fun:
Suspicious Legate: he made sense for the most part yesterDay, though there were inconsistencies here and there. The fact that there was only one kill last Night does point towards him, I doubt the wolves would have given up a second kill purely to set him up, doesn't seem at all worth it for them to do that. Pretty sure I'm gonna vote him. McCaber: not too too much from him yesterDay, but his vote just bugs me, doubt I'll vote him though, but I'm watching him Lommy: she seemed very flip-floppy (as Nog put it), the fact that she was quick to disregard both Mnemo's plan and Pitch's suggestion as being "unfair" really bugs me, since they both follow the rules perfectly, and therefore are completely fair Innocentish, for now Boro: seems honest and logical, haven't seen anything that I don't like, might vote to guard him Nerwen: nothing bad standing out for me here, she seems very logical, I understand why she got some guard votes yesterDay Nienna: not seeing anything badish here Nogrod: really trusting him, I like his logic and agree with him for the most part, I appreciate that he didn't totally throw out Mnemo's idea yesterDay, pretty sure I'm gonna vote to guard him Pitchwife: seems fine Sally: seems good Shasta: seems good Unsure, for now anyway Greenie: didn't really stand out for me when I was reading back through, so don't have an opinion either way Alona: no posts yet Brinn: see Greenie Hakon: nothing but "gut feelings" from him, so really there's not much to say Inziladun: see Greenie and Brinn Nessa: nothing from her yet Nilp: is Nilp, "Confussion" is his middle name I'm sure ![]() So there we are. Gonna go sleep now. Hope to see lots when I get up! Xposted with Nilp, Inzil and Nienna
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Illustrious Legate and the one-kill NIGHT?
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It may, in fact, be too easy but I don't know if I'm willing to risk letting a wolf slip by with these odds and the wolves being able to kill two people at night. We can either lynch Legate who was heavily suspected yesterDay anyway or we can lynch someone else who has higher odds of being innocent. If we lynch Legate and find out that he is innocent then we know the wolves are messing with us and with their ability to kill two people per night.
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If they had killed two last NIGHT, we would have had two leads to follow, plus Legate's innocence would have been proven.
The single kill is shocking, yes, but not without merit for them.
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Then again, I'm not able to make much out of our single *chortles* lead. Except that Mnemo was smart enough to come up with that plan. But she wasn't exactly quiet, was she? She polarised the village along two lines: those in favour, and those opposing. (Plus the usual slackers, but they're always there, so they don't count.
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*strums lute in minor key*
Ai! Well, that was a bad start. I feel partly responsible, too... ![]() At the risk of sticking my head in a noose– I do think we need to look at the Kit voters. Very unlikely there wasn't a wolf involved. Quote:
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Of course, if Boro– the runner-up in the Guard voting– were a wolf, I suppose a Legwolf wouldn't have voted him.
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Well so far I don't have any more brilliant insights. Although for what it's worth I think we have time for a Legate lynch toDay, and be ready to sort things out later.
But much of my thought process is pending on what happens toDay yet.
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Okay, I have just skimmed throught toDay as I don't have that much time, just a few notes.
First, of course the Wolves are framing us, and I would apply on the village to say that lynching me would really be stupid. If that goes on, you can always lynch me later (at most when you don't have any other people and it's some Day Fifty), but this frame-up is so transparent once it's been done. Look at it from the Wolves' point of view, if they had the incredible luck of getting rid of a Seer, and they can still have two kills per every Night, I don't see that it would be too much of a pain for them to leave out one kill. (And especially if they can easily lynch one innocent on this Day by accusing him like this.) Right now I have a very bad feeling about wilwa, partially also about sally and also about Hakon, who just pops out and says to lynch me yesterday, and then pops out and says today: Quote:
Okay, had to go now, will be back later during the Day. You can line up with questions on me meanwhile, if you have any, but it'll be in some eight hours from now at first when I can answer.
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I think it would be more likely that the wolves would want to capitalize on the extreme luck re: the Kitanna lynch by using two kills rather than giving up one and framing Legate (can they even do that? Mod?) in my opinion.
Also, when did we start not having Seers? ...what do you mean there's been one in every game? I don't recall the last time - ...what do you mean they consistently die off Day/Night One? Surely the village wouldn't be so silly! ...what do you mean, "go back and look"?
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Lynch tally with preliminary Kitanna-lysis
(Time reckoned from the start of the DAY, known innocents underlined, known baddies emphasised, person/s in the lead bolded.) +3:29 Nilp Nilp (Nilp 1) +18:19 Mnemo wilwa (Nilp 1, wilwa 1) +18:50 Brinn McCaber (Nilp 1, wilwa 1, McCaber 1) +20:22 Nerwen Kitanna (Nilp 1, wilwa 1, McCaber 1, Kitanna 1) +21:53 Shasta Lommy (Nilp 1, wilwa 1, McCaber 1, Kitanna 1, Lommy 1) +22:09 Kitanna Brinn (Nilp 1, wilwa 1, McCaber 1, Kitanna 1, Lommy 1, Brinn 1) +22:32 Boro Kitanna (Nilp 1, wilwa 1, McCaber 1, Kitanna 2, Lommy 1, Brinn 1) Tie breaker! Boro needs closer inspection, but for the moment I consider him an 'I dunno what he is.'+22:50 Zil Kitanna (Nilp 1, wilwa 1, McCaber 1, Kitanna 3, Lommy 1, Brinn 1) Worrying bandwaggon-style vote.+23:00 Greenie Nogrod (Nilp 1, wilwa 1, McCaber 1, Kitanna 3, Lommy 1, Brinn 1, Nogrod 1) +23:12 McCaber wilwa (Nilp 1, wilwa 2, McCaber 1, Kitanna 3, Lommy 1, Brinn 1, Nogrod 1) +23:43 Hakon Legate (Nilp 1, wilwa 2, McCaber 1, Kitanna 3, Lommy 1, Brinn 1, Nogrod 1, Legate 1) +23:55 Pitchie Kitanna (Nilp 1, wilwa 2, McCaber 1, Kitanna 4, Lommy 1, Brinn 1, Nogrod 1, Legate 1) Pitchie has been much helpful during the DAY's discussion; therefore I am inclined to think him 'clueless' innocent.+23:57 Legate wilwa (Nilp 1, wilwa 3, McCaber 1, Kitanna 4, Lommy 1, Brinn 1, Nogrod 1, Legate 1) +23:57 Nienna Zil (Nilp 1, wilwa 3, McCaber 1, Kitanna 4, Lommy 1, Brinn 1, Nogrod 1, Legate 1, Zil 1) +23:59 wilwa Kitanna (Nilp 1, wilwa 3, McCaber 1, Kitanna 5, Lommy 1, Brinn 1, Nogrod 1, Legate 1, Zil 1) wilwa was in second place for most of the last hour. She said that her vote was to try to save herself. If she is a Wolf I would look more closely at Lommy and Sally (see below).-0:00 Nogrod Greenie (Nilp 1, wilwa 3, McCaber 1, Kitanna 5, Lommy 1, Brinn 1, Nogrod 1, Legate 1, Zil 1, Greenie 1) Not a Kitanna vote, but . . . Throwaway much? Last-minute Wolf-on-Wolf? (If I remember right it's also somewhat standard Nog to vote 'with principles.') An innocentish 'I don't know what he is', due to some good stuff said during the DAY.-0:00 Lommy Kitanna (Nilp 1, wilwa 3, McCaber 1, Kitanna 6, Lommy 1, Brinn 1, Nogrod 1, Legate 1, Zil 1, Greenie 1) -0:00 Sally Kitanna (Nilp 1, wilwa 3, McCaber 1, Kitanna 7, Lommy 1, Brinn 1, Nogrod 1, Legate 1, Zil 1, Greenie 1) Doom, gloom, boom. The two lasses created a huge gap between wilwa and Kitanna during the very last minute, so . . . see above.No vote: alonariel, Nessa Lunch, Guard vote list, and more analysis. In that order.
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Guard tally with preliminary analysis.
(Time reckoned from the start of the DAY, known innocents underlined, known baddies emphasised, person/s in the lead bolded.) . . . . . . . . . I've decided not to run with it. You know why? When we analyse the lynch vote we know at the end we'll get the identity of the 'winner', from which we can deduce intentions of those who cast votes for that person or the runner/s-up. In this case, however, we can't say for certain if the 'winner' is innocent or guilty, except if the Wolves do a double-kill (which they didn't!) Despite heavy prejudice for Legate's guilt, we still can't say that for certain. However, the tally will become more useful once we get a Werewolf, since it's an additional form of interaction, from which we can deduce intentions. But that means first we have to get a Werewolf. Which the Guard tally will not help me with. (Erm, anyhoo, does anyone know if the tie-breaking mechanism here is random or not?) Postpartum possums. One gem from the Guard tally muck: I think Hakon is innocent.
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Here and reading.
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Suspicious
Legate: I suppose suspicious is technically the wrong word for him, it's more that he is a logical choice and that his death could answer some questions and clear up a few things (hopefully) McCaber: mainly cause his vote yesterday bugged me, I wouldn't vote for him purely on this, I'm just keeping an eye out for him Zil: his vote, and over all badness vibe coming from him, again will keep an eye out, and will concentrate a bit more on him tomorrow if I'm around Innocentish, for now Boro: seems honest and logical, haven't seen anything that I don't like, might vote to guard him Nerwen: nothing bad standing out for me here, she seems very logical, might guard her Nienna: really liking Nogrod: will probably vote to guard him Sally: seems goodish, not crazy confident about her, but I'm leaning more innocent Shasta: seems good Brinn: very comfortable with her Unsure, for now anyway Greenie: under the reindeer, atleast under mine, not sure why cause she has posted a lot, but I just don't feel anything either way Alona: no posts yet Hakon: nothing but "gut feelings" from him, so really there's not much to say, but he's probably innocent Nessa: nothing from her yet Nilp: always confuses me, hard to get a solid feeling either way from him Pitch: I was fairly confident of him, but now it's more of an unsure feeling I'm gonna vote for ++Legate now, since I really don't see me changing my mind on that, even if I'm starting to get a bit uneasy about this, it still just seems the most logical choice. Will wait to cast my guard vote though for a bit. Xposted with Legate
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Yeesh, twice now I have left Day One early only to return to find the seer dead. Surely we learned after last game...but no?
![]() So either Legate is a wolf or he's been framed, as others have already stated. Lynching him, there's the risk that we could be falling into a wolf trap...but then again, I think it could be even riskier to let him live if he is a wolf. I'd hate to have a wolf in our grasp, then just let him slip through. That's sort of how we lost last game. I can't really see why the wolves wouldn't want to take advantage of having two kills. Wouldn't they want to maximize the number of deaths while they can? Btw, did Nessa or alona show up at all yesterDay? I see they didn't vote, but I can't recall whether they even posted or not. Also, any reason why you didn't vote to guard someone, McCaber and Nilp? I would take a look at the Kit bandwagon now, but it's late and I need to go to bed shortly. If no one has done it yet, perhaps I'll do it tomorrow if I have time. EDIT: X-ed with Shasta and Nilp (who already seems to be doing a Kit analysis)
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Because I didn't see anyone I'd like to keep alive.
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