Tol-in-Gaurhoth Threefold and Six: The Night Guard

[Hakon]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Heh, interesting. Has no one really thought of the ranger saving us the last Night?

Eönwë said that if it was a ranger save it would be clear in the narration.

I will mention that there was a save.

The above quote was Eönwë's answer to the question of weather it would be made clear that it was a ranger save or not.

[Thinlómien]

I find this Legate thing even more interesting than before for a simple reason: what he has been desperately trying to convince us of is actually very close to the theory I mentioned having about him being alive and said I'd tell you later about. It puzzles me a bit that he came up with it too - I was kind of thinking "if he's smart and innocent, he'll say it aloud and I'll know he's not a wolf" but that logic is a bit faulty, no doubt.

Anyhow, to me his defence does make sense. By keeping their kills at one the wolves are, for sure, losing an advantage they have (two kills) but they're also preventing us from using a very powerful advantage: every guard vote with two kills is a seer dream shared by all the village (so it can't die with any single person). If there are two kills, we've guarded an innocent, if there's just one, we've guarded a wolf. Simple as that. I was hesitant to point this out in case the wolves hadn't realised it this far, but with Legate shouting all that to the world (for a believable reson if he's innocent and no further harm done if he's a wolf), that's not adding much to what has been said.

Therefore, Legate being alive does not mean he's guilty. If I as a wolf would have thought as far on Night 2 as I as an innocent did on Day2 (which is more probable than probable) I would have told my pack to abstain from the second kill. And because I believe I'm not the smartest of all the people in the village, a wolf must've have thought of what I just thought of too.

But I'm not claiming Legate's innocent - he could still, according to a simpler explanation of things, be a wolf. But that doesn't make what he and I have said about the power of night guarding as a method of revealing stuff any less true.


edit: xed with Legate, Sally and Boro

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

every guard vote with two kills is a seer dream shared by all the village (so it can't die with any single person).

Hear, hear!

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

But that's all maybe; one way or another, we have to find out the truth. Suppose we Guard him one more night, would the wolves again be content with one kill?

Well that was something I wanted to give as an option, but of course that's just an option, I can see what you don't like about that. Anyway, it will be interesting in any case to see what happens toNight and for the person guarded toNight - as you can't Guard me toNight, consequently. (The WWs could theoretically kill me if I stay alive, and if the Ranger doesn't protect me - which I would not recommend btw, as I am not really much sure if they would want to kill me - and if yes, then no worse than any other kill, and the Ranger can maximize the defending capabilities of the village.)

EDIT: I keep just x-ing all the way... next!

[A Little Green]

I'm sorry, thought I'd have more time and more energy, right now I'm fighting to keep my eyes open so I won't be around much longer. So, my promised list will not be coming toDay after all, it'll be there toMorrow though in case I'm still alive. A quick comment, though, just in case I'm not: if Legate turns out innocent, I think Nerwen and Sally might both deserve a closer look, Sally for what Legate pointed out and Nerwen for this:

Originally Posted by Nerwen (underlining mine)

Guard:

++Inziladun.

Because he jumped on my vote on Kit, and he's been creepy toDay. (I'm for Guarding suspicious people if there's no-one better, at least while there are still four wolves around.)

Still, the strongest case I have is

++ Legate

As for my guard vote, I'll go with my top suspect apart from Leggy:

++ guard Nogrod

Also because he's very valuable if innocent.

Good Night and sorry once more for lack of contribution toDay.


EDIT: x-ed since the beginning of this page

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Anyway, let's just say that if Legate does turn out to be innocent I'm going to feel awful. I think it would be stupid of us to let a Leg-Wolf get away so easily though.

What are you all thinking about guard-wise? I actually have a feeling about Brinn, but I'm not sure. I'd almost rather try to guard the fourth wolf (if in fact it isn't Legate) but we won't know until Sundown if he's furry so we can't make those sort of connections until toMorrow.

This one I'm assuming? Yes, this one is a bit odd. I think Legate even quoted it and said that originally she hadn't had that part in brackets but she edited that in after. But I really don't think this is much to go on, unless this isn't the one you were talking about Greenie.

Just realised I have more posts then Sally, I guess I'm not one to talk then. (regarding my last post)