TIG: LXV - Our fate lies with...them? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rikae · 08-13-2009, 07:09 AM

If I recall correctly, you suggested PMing other players without permission as a test.

Nessa Telrunya · 08-13-2009, 07:10 AM

I sense a little tension here. >_>

Hakon · 08-13-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

If I recall correctly, you suggested PMing other players without permission as a test.

I did not suggest that and I did not do that either. Test for what?

Rikae · 08-13-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hakon

I did not suggest that and I did not do that either. Test for what?

Sorry, I had you mixed up with Hansy.

Suffice to say, though, as the posters above noted, your suggestion would amount to cheating.

Rikae · 08-13-2009, 07:30 AM

Hakon, did you just edit to add to the content of your post, or is my mind playing tricks on me? If so, you should know that editing for any purpose other than to note that you crossed with someone is always against the rules. (If you didn't and I really am going crazy, please disregard.)

Hakon · 08-13-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Hakon, did you just edit to add to the content of your post, or is my mind playing tricks on me? If so, you should know that editing for any purpose other than to note that you crossed with someone is always against the rules. (If you didn't and I really am going crazy, please disregard.)

I did edit in the sense that I clicked the edit button and filled in the reason for editing box. I did not actually edit the post itself.

Nessa Telrunya · 08-13-2009, 07:41 AM

Well, at least now the conversation is boiling down to the problem at hand, rather than other oddities that only serve to up the page count.

I think the most likely strategy, that everyone will most likely fall into anyways, is to blindly vote Day one as they always have, and then look back at who voted who, and who was Night killed for motives.

But the problem lies in this: when all we can do toDay is vote blindly, how will our votes mean anything? There's no point in giving a well-thought reason when there's nothing to go on for us villagers(and gifteds). If we just tell the truth about why we're voting instead of trying to sound smart(guilty here) then it will be easier to distinguish who is who. Only the wolves are sure of who they need to kill: everyone. And that means that they will be glad with whatever lynch they can get on the first day, provided none of them die.

Nienna · 08-13-2009, 07:48 AM

*is slightly overwhelmed*

Wow... lots of pages without a lot of substance...eh... it's day one. I have read up to the best of my ability. I'm in class posting (oops) so I won't be around for real until later.

I agree with Mac that the gifteds should do what they are comfortable with and now thanks to TP I'm sure the ones that weren't contemplating leaving clues are thinking about it now.

Survey answers were confidential I believe.

I'll try to keep reading as I can but no guarantees until later.

Rikae · 08-13-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nessa Telrunya

I think the most likely strategy, that everyone will most likely fall into anyways, is to blindly vote Day one as they always have, and then look back at who voted who, and who was Night killed for motives.

But the problem lies in this: when all we can do toDay is vote blindly, how will our votes mean anything? There's no point in giving a well-thought reason when there's nothing to go on for us villagers(and gifteds). If we just tell the truth about why we're voting instead of trying to sound smart(guilty here) then it will be easier to distinguish who is who. Only the wolves are sure of who they need to kill: everyone. And that means that they will be glad with whatever lynch they can get on the first day, provided none of them die.

What exactly are you suggesting by "tell the truth instead of trying to sound smart" - that those with reasoning behind their votes should be suspected, while those who say "oh, it's just a random vote, Day 1 sucks, tralala" should be given a free pass? If we do that, we'll have hardly anything to go on Day 2, either.
I, for one, rarely vote blindly. Wolves have been caught on Day 1 by analyzing their posts - the biggest obstacle to this are the people who sidetrack everything into an argument about how useless Day 1 is and refuse too get to work wolf-hunting. To avoid contributing to such sidetracking, this is the last thing I intend to say on the topic of the usefulness or pointlessness of Day one. Just be aware that complaining about this supposed pointlessness is:
a) one of my philosophy-of-werewolfing pet peeves, and more importantly:
b) highly suspicious in my eyes.

'nuff said.

EDIT: X'd with Nessa

Rikae · 08-13-2009, 07:49 AM

I just tried to make a list, only to find that most of the players either haven't posted, posted only to say they're here, or posted only banter. I'll save the list for such time as I have something to say on it.

Four pages of nothing. You ought to be ashamed! Of those I've had a chance to form some impression of:

Hakon: I have some thoughts about his suggestion and the reasoning attached to it, but those probably should be considered meta-game and inadmissible, and discussion of them might even hurt the village - so I'll just say I find him slightly suspicious.
The phantom -I approve of any attempts to get people talking by making suggestions (or in tp's case, what looks like an attempt at making orders). That said, it doesn't make him look any more innocent.
Inzil - Said something fishy, I would like to know why he thought it was a good idea to point out what he pointed out.
Newren - C htiw snigeb taht gnihtemos eye elttil ym htiw yps I.

EDIT: X'd with Nessa and Nienna.

Nessa Telrunya · 08-13-2009, 07:56 AM

I would love to be able to form solid opinions of everyone like Rikae, but, as has been noticed multiple times, there has been nothing to go on. The funny thing is, there is more substance in her one post than has been in the last few pages. And I hate lynching people who have nothing against them. That contradicts the idea that you're supposed to use your head in this game.

There may be a list forthcoming(oh no!), but I regret that you must wait for it.

Inziladun · 08-13-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Inzil - Said something fishy, I would like to know why he thought it was a good idea to point out what he pointed out.

Well, I haven't said a great deal, so it seems you must be referring to my advice to Gifteds who may take tp's suggestion to be careful about it.

Something wrong with that?

08-13-2009, 07:10 AM	#2
Nessa Telrunya Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In a paper bag Posts: 396	I sense a little tension here. >_> __________________ Joined together wrote our names upon the page Seven times alliance our loyalties we gave

08-13-2009, 07:41 AM	#7
Nessa Telrunya Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In a paper bag Posts: 396	Well, at least now the conversation is boiling down to the problem at hand, rather than other oddities that only serve to up the page count. I think the most likely strategy, that everyone will most likely fall into anyways, is to blindly vote Day one as they always have, and then look back at who voted who, and who was Night killed for motives. But the problem lies in this: when all we can do toDay is vote blindly, how will our votes mean anything? There's no point in giving a well-thought reason when there's nothing to go on for us villagers(and gifteds). If we just tell the truth about why we're voting instead of trying to sound smart(guilty here) then it will be easier to distinguish who is who. Only the wolves are sure of who they need to kill: everyone. And that means that they will be glad with whatever lynch they can get on the first day, provided none of them die. __________________ Joined together wrote our names upon the page Seven times alliance our loyalties we gave

08-13-2009, 07:48 AM	#8
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	is slightly overwhelmed Wow... lots of pages without a lot of substance...eh... it's day one. I have read up to the best of my ability. I'm in class posting (oops) so I won't be around for real until later. I agree with Mac that the gifteds should do what they are comfortable with and now thanks to TP I'm sure the ones that weren't contemplating leaving clues are thinking about it now. Survey answers were confidential I believe. I'll try to keep reading as I can but no guarantees until later. __________________ Puddle! Puddle!

08-13-2009, 07:56 AM	#11
Nessa Telrunya Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In a paper bag Posts: 396	I would love to be able to form solid opinions of everyone like Rikae, but, as has been noticed multiple times, there has been nothing to go on. The funny thing is, there is more substance in her one post than has been in the last few pages. And I hate lynching people who have nothing against them. That contradicts the idea that you're supposed to use your head in this game. There may be a list forthcoming(oh no!), but I regret that you must wait for it. __________________ Joined together wrote our names upon the page Seven times alliance our loyalties we gave

08-13-2009, 07:09 AM	#1
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	If I recall correctly, you suggested PMing other players without permission as a test.

08-13-2009, 07:30 AM	#5
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Hakon, did you just edit to add to the content of your post, or is my mind playing tricks on me? If so, you should know that editing for any purpose other than to note that you crossed with someone is always against the rules. (If you didn't and I really am going crazy, please disregard.)

08-13-2009, 07:49 AM	#10
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	I just tried to make a list, only to find that most of the players either haven't posted, posted only to say they're here, or posted only banter. I'll save the list for such time as I have something to say on it. Four pages of nothing. You ought to be ashamed! Of those I've had a chance to form some impression of: Hakon: I have some thoughts about his suggestion and the reasoning attached to it, but those probably should be considered meta-game and inadmissible, and discussion of them might even hurt the village - so I'll just say I find him slightly suspicious. The phantom -I approve of any attempts to get people talking by making suggestions (or in tp's case, what looks like an attempt at making orders). That said, it doesn't make him look any more innocent. Inzil - Said something fishy, I would like to know why he thought it was a good idea to point out what he pointed out. Newren - C htiw snigeb taht gnihtemos eye elttil ym htiw yps I. EDIT: X'd with Nessa and Nienna.