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King's Writer
Join Date: Jul 2002
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As might be suspected, I have a view questions:
- Since I never saw any sign of your chapterheadings, I assume you invented them. For what reason did you do that? - Legolas: Did I understand you right, that you removed Legolas as the guid during the night by Galdor the Lord of the people of the Tree? - Balrogs: Did you realy change every meention of Balrogs to a singular Balrog? Would that mean that Tuor, Ecthelion, and Rog each killed a Balrog? Even so before hand you did not mention more than one Balrog? - May be I am just a bit slow this morning but Gond dolen did not ring any bell with me. Could you give a bit more information. - The same is true for the speech of Thorondor and Turgon from WH. Can you give a more specific source information. - How did you handel the escape from the battle, when you placed Tuor's house in the north of the city? Or did you change the direction of the attack to come from the south? - How did you handel the fugetives that seperated from Tuor to take the old way of escape? Respectfuly Findegil |
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Wight
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Hello Findegil
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All we know that in later mythology there can not be hundreds of Balrogs, but I don’t think really that Tolkien considered in an hypothetically revision to exit from the beginning only seven Balrogs, (Balrogs dead when the other battles, the battle of Gondolin, and the last battle, apart for that one of Moria). With this, yes, each one killed a balrog, (we are in the First age, everyone are more powerful, elves and Tuor!!!). I don’t remember how many balrogs are mentioned in my version but I think don’t matters, for they are few, and coherent and I think credible. Quote:
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The attack of course is from the north, but in the time of the flight (as I think is said) there were enemies around all Amon Gwared, North, West, South and East, and the escape from the north could have been the less expected by Morgoth. Greetings |
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King's Writer
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Thanks for the farther explaination, I got a better picture now in most cases. But a few questions remian:
- The speech of Thorondor: Where did you include what? The report of Húrin searching entrance into the city does of course fall into Tuors time there. But did you actually insert the report of Thorondor in direct spech? - Again the battel: When Tuor withdraws to the King's Square the place is already beset with foes from North West and East. Fittingly Tuor withdraws to the south. In the original version his house and the entrace of the secret tunnel was in that direction. Does that mean in your version Tuor made an implicit turn and to the north? Respectfuly Findegil |
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Wight
Join Date: Jan 2009
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“Now came days when Tuor had dwelt among the Gondolindrim many years. ….” . Quote:
The names of the streets can be the same because there’s no description previously. By the way, I omitted Gar Ainion, simply Place of the Ainur, Fountains of South there are Fountains of North, etc. Greetings |
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King's Writer
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Ah, that means Morgoth army comes over the hills in the north, but the first gate to fall is the south gate of the city? Yes, that is a reasonable possibility to change thinks.
Respectfully Findegil |
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Wight
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Yes it can be possible, but not necessarily. At the time of Tuor withdraws to King's place and subsequently to the tunnel, Morgoth armies had razed Gondolin (even from the north that means the north had few enemies), and could come from wherever you want.
But the development of the battle (although very brilliant) is not so deep told, and I think we must not complicate more about this question. Greetings |
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