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Aganzir · 01-29-2009, 05:46 AM

++Carcharoth

Werewolves are cool, dragons are not.

Andsigil · 01-29-2009, 07:35 AM

++Carcharoth.

Ancalagon died from a Silmaril (we think). Carcharoth died from a Silmaril and the teeth and claws of Huan.

Tuor in Gondolin · 01-29-2009, 07:52 AM

Yes. Sorry about the dragon, but there are some
more candidates, including one with a rather
biting sense of humor.

+ + Carcharoth

A Little Green · 01-29-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Agan

Werewolves are cool, dragons are not.

The exact opposite for me. Werewolves are cool only in dark Transilvanian forests. Dragons are cool wherever they are.

++ Ancalagon the Black

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-29-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by A Little Green

The exact opposite for me. Werewolves are cool only in dark Transilvanian forests. Dragons are cool wherever they are.

That's true - Dragons are cool. However, old Carkey is still better for me than old Ankey, most of all probably because I know basically nothing about old Ankey except that he existed. Okay, when I try to imagine him, he might have been really cool - especially if he was really black and spitting some nicely-coloured flames (red, then green, or even blue)... But in general, as with Dragons, the Dragon I liked the most was Smaug. Then Scatha. Then Glaurung, who had a fascinating personality (literally), however he was a stupid and lame worm (both the adjectives emphasising the word "worm". It's not that he would be stupid or anything, and it was Brandir who was lame around there). Dragons need wings! (in contrary to some other flame-using creatures I might recall) Calkie, like I said, was given too little space (although sometimes it rouses one's imagination when you just hear very little about somebody, but this was not the case). Too bad for him.

Perhaps he will find himself more popularity elsewhere. Long live for your washing machine - your Calgon!

skip spence · 01-29-2009, 10:23 AM

Ancalagon is completely useless. Morgoth must've been fuming at his incompetence. Despite being a monstrous fire-spitting dragon big enough to annihilate Thangorodrim when crashing down on them he's still not able to incinerate a flying ship presumably made of wood.

So, ++ Carcaroth

I like the idea that Morgoth's fortress is guarded by a bad-*** guard dog. It seems fitting somehow.

And Legate, I would think Scatha was flightless as well, being a "worm" much like Glaurung.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-29-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by skip spence

Ancalagon is completely useless. Morgoth must've been fuming at his incompetence. Despite being a monstrous fire-spitting dragon big enough to annihilate Thangorodrim when crashing down on them he's still not able to incinerate a flying ship presumably made of wood.

I would not be so judging - at least when it comes to the ship. Wasn't the ship supposed to be made of mithril? That would defend poor Lakky a little.

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And Legate, I would think Scatha was flightless as well, being a "worm" much like Glaurung.

Oh yes, he was. But he was cool, and he was more snakelike, I think. Or lizard-like, in the sense of this agile lizard. Glaurung was big and slooow.

Mithalwen · 01-29-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

++Carcharoth

Werewolves are cool, dragons are not.

Surely that depends on whether the dragon were a cold-drake or a fire-drake - and on the werewolf. Some werewolves are inherently cooler than others

the phantom · 01-29-2009, 12:40 PM

I somehow believe that if Ancalagon wins this, Christopher Tolkien will suddenly find a page of notes detailing how he was the biggest baddest dragon ever, and how he drove back the forces of the Valar but was somehow slain by a lucky cheap-shot from Earendil.

It's worth a shot, right?

++Ancalagon

Thinlómien · 01-29-2009, 12:52 PM

I don't actually like either of them very much. I know too little of Ancalagon to like or dislike him and Carcharoth is kind of cool but he also always kind of annoyed me because he struck me as a rather stupid animal.

Macalaure · 01-29-2009, 12:54 PM

Ancalagan and Carcharoth meet in the first round? Inconceivable! I call the seeding system into question!

This is a tough one indeed. Both dragons and werewolves are pretty darn cool, and Ancalagon and Carcharoth represent the top notch of each species. I think I'll go with

++Carcharoth.

He at least has some character.

Aganzir · 01-29-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Surely that depends on whether the dragon were a cold-drake or a fire-drake - and on the werewolf. Some werewolves are inherently cooler than others

Nope, for me it doesn't. I don't like dragons in general.

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

Ancalagan and Carcharoth meet in the first round? Inconceivable! I call the seeding system into question!

Don't complain - skippy was much more evil.

Eönwë · 01-29-2009, 02:53 PM

I never really liked Carcharoth (and the first time I read his name I was reminded of a Great White Shark, which I think is overrated too).

++Ancalagon

Nogrod · 01-29-2009, 03:09 PM

Oh, this is soo wrong!

But anyway, let's gather under the banner of Ancalagon the Black! Everyone! It's the last stand!

++ Ancalagon

Werewolf is a game, dragons are for real!

Tuor in Gondolin · 01-29-2009, 03:11 PM

By Macalaure

Quote:

Ancalagan and Carcharoth meet in the first round? Inconceivable! I call the seeding system into question!

Hee , Hee! Actually, pretty much deliberate. I tend to
not like seedings like in the NCAA's basketball tournament,
where you get too many mismatches early. Besides, this
way Golfimbul or Bill Ferny get to advance.

Well, looking ahead I have to go now to check out
101 Things to do with Dead Cats.

Oh wait! What if the cats win!

So far
Carcharoth 7
Ancalagon 5

01-29-2009, 05:46 AM	#1
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	++Carcharoth Werewolves are cool, dragons are not. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

01-29-2009, 07:35 AM	#2
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	++Carcharoth. Ancalagon died from a Silmaril (we think). Carcharoth died from a Silmaril and the teeth and claws of Huan. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

01-29-2009, 07:52 AM	#3
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Yes. Sorry about the dragon, but there are some more candidates, including one with a rather biting sense of humor. + + Carcharoth __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

01-29-2009, 10:23 AM	#6
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Ancalagon is completely useless. Morgoth must've been fuming at his incompetence. Despite being a monstrous fire-spitting dragon big enough to annihilate Thangorodrim when crashing down on them he's still not able to incinerate a flying ship presumably made of wood. So, ++ Carcaroth I like the idea that Morgoth's fortress is guarded by a bad-* guard dog. It seems fitting somehow. And Legate*, I would think Scatha was flightless as well, being a "worm" much like Glaurung. __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way"* ~ Bob Dylan

01-29-2009, 12:40 PM	#9
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	I somehow believe that if Ancalagon wins this, Christopher Tolkien will suddenly find a page of notes detailing how he was the biggest baddest dragon ever, and how he drove back the forces of the Valar but was somehow slain by a lucky cheap-shot from Earendil. It's worth a shot, right? ++Ancalagon __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

01-29-2009, 12:52 PM	#10
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	I don't actually like either of them very much. I know too little of Ancalagon to like or dislike him and Carcharoth is kind of cool but he also always kind of annoyed me because he struck me as a rather stupid animal. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

01-29-2009, 12:54 PM	#11
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Ancalagan and Carcharoth meet in the first round? Inconceivable! I call the seeding system into question! This is a tough one indeed. Both dragons and werewolves are pretty darn cool, and Ancalagon and Carcharoth represent the top notch of each species. I think I'll go with ++Carcharoth. He at least has some character.

01-29-2009, 02:53 PM	#13
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	I never really liked Carcharoth (and the first time I read his name I was reminded of a Great White Shark, which I think is overrated too). ++Ancalagon __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

01-29-2009, 03:09 PM	#14
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Oh, this is soo wrong! But anyway, let's gather under the banner of Ancalagon the Black! Everyone! It's the last stand! ++ Ancalagon Werewolf is a game, dragons are for real! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...