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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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I see a difference between suicide and self-sacrifice in Western culture. Suicide is something selfish, considered immoral by the main western religion (Christianity), and is something for which people can be forcibly locked up if they fail (a process known as a "committal").
Self-sacrifice is done for a purpose, with nobler intentions in mind- usually to save the lives of others. Addendum: I read The Stand, as well, and the book never made much sense to me: here are the plights and trials of all of these people in what is supposed to be a great struggle between good and evil, and how is it resolved? Trashcan Man, in a blatant and silly deus ex machina, setting off the nuke. Not only that, but his actions also render the entire plot pointless; no matter what the heroes would have been doing or not doing, he would have set off that explosion anyway. Very disappointing plot.
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Doubting Dwimmerlaik
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Didn't Turin bump himself off ?
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Doubting Dwimmerlaik
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Welcome to the Downs, Vaine.
Another example of 'suicide' for the greater good and for hope. Turin made a mess of everything he touched and everyone with whom he formed a relationship and so, to him perhaps, exiting the stage would further the cause against Morgoth and cut short the mayhem that the dark vala hoped to continue via the CoH. Níniel/Niënor may have felt the same.
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And to be fair, Turin and his sister might well
have been considered to have been driven clinically (at least temporarily) insane.
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Doubting Dwimmerlaik
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Not to make this thread too schizophrenic, but I stumbled upon this:
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