Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by phantom

There's a reason I made that comment about Gil. If you're innocent, then you'd do well to just agree with it and move on.

Originally Posted by phantom

I'm just letting him know that I have a good reason for saying it and that it is meant to benefit the innocent, therefore if he is innocent he should let it stand.

First of all, I don't like that "If you are innocent, you'll do as I say and be content with my better judgement". To me, meekly following phantom's ideas without questioning them first seems more like the behaviour of a wolf than of an innocent. Phantom's phrasing looks like blackmailing of sorts - like "If you don't agree with me, I will think you are a wolf." As for me, I don't see that mysterious reason he is talking about at all and would like to remind mr. phantom that even if you yourself know you are innocent, we others don't and have no reason to trust you. Now I don't think you are a wolf nor do I suspect Gil, but if I suspected either of you that argument wouldn't sway my opinion.

Originally Posted by Boro

And knowing that tp will now truly be ok as an advisor, I feel fine leaving him out of a seat this time through.

Excuse me, Boro - though I don't suspect phantom either, I honestly don't know how come you are so convinced about his innocence. You treat him like a known innocent, and I'd love to know why.

Originally Posted by Boro

Who does that leave?

Shasta, sally, Gwath, the phantom, Gil and myself?

What do you think tp?

If we are talking about the "experienced veterans" click, this is certainly a good example. Why ask only phantom, why not ask the other four as well? It looks as if only phantom's opinion was worth considering. Sorry, I just tend not to like this kind of phrasing.

Originally Posted by Eönwë

She gives you a reason to uspect her yet she's innocent?

As for the second, in WW people usually use slip to mean a Freudian Slip, so that confused me a bit. Do you just mean her confusion?

Like you said later, I mentioned this quote before; and like I believe I said in that post, I guess that was a pure typo. We'll see what Lommy says when she gets back, though.

Other than that, Rune brings good points and seems genuine, I have a good feeling about him now that I've read more of his posts. I didn't understand Boro's bologna-thing, but I trust it was nothing too important.

Is anyone else around? If yes, I'll hang around to discuss with that someone. If not, I'll go writing an essay on The Picture of Dorian Gray.

[A Little Green]

Argh, honestly writing an essay doesn't seem too appealing at the moment, despite the fact that there seems to be no one else around. I'll just blabber by myself for a while before starting to work..

The reps:
Lommy (3)
Boro (3)
morm (2)
Nerwen (2)
Agan (2)
Kath (2)

I'm quite content with our reps, actually. Two old, four new, and no one of them screams "wolf!" to me. Both of the two I considered voting (morm and Lommy) are through, and I'm quite comfortable with the other four as well. I'm also interested to see how it affects the dynamics to have among them two more powerful reps and four less so.

Hmmm. Eönwë's vote for Lommy came kind of out of the blue, and I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with it. Nog's vote for Boro also seemed a bit weird. If he doesn't trust Boro but wants to see how he uses the power given him, why wasn't it enough for him that Boro was elected a rep? I don't know if I can explain this, but to me it seems very risky to give a person you suspect a third vote just to "check his cards". To elect such a person for rep makes some sense; but giving him a third vote doesn't look quite logical to me.

[Nerwen]

Hello, Greenie. Are you still around?

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Nog's vote for Boro also seemed a bit weird. If he doesn't trust Boro but wants to see how he uses the power given him, why wasn't it enough for him that Boro was elected a rep? I don't know if I can explain this, but to me it seems very risky to give a person you suspect a third vote just to "check his cards". To elect such a person for rep makes some sense; but giving him a third vote doesn't look quite logical to me.

No, it doesn't. Someone needs to go back and look at the interaction between those two. I'll do it myself if I have time.

[Eönwë]

Finally finished reading

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Hmmm. Eönwë's vote for Lommy came kind of out of the blue, and I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with it.

It wasn't really. Most of the people I most wanted as my Rep (other than phantom and Boro, who I was sure would have no need of extra votes- and no, I hadn't read page 15 yet so I didn't know that she'd already got 2 votes) wanted me dead. You don't have to be a wolf in order to not want to be lynched. And anyay, I wouldn't be doing my service to the village if I was going to get lynched instead of a wolf.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I'm listing everything they've said to and about each other in three parts.

I hope you had fun doing that.

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[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

I get it, but Boromir is better at explaining it.

Ah but since you said you didn't know what to make of his explanation I thought you hadn't understood it.

Eönwë, when I didn't vote for you yesterday, I said you could thank me by posting a list of your suspicions. Looking forward to it.