Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLVII: Dueling Wizards Werewolf II - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eönwë · 06-09-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalaith

Oi! You wizards! Play nice!

Yeah! You tell them!

Owww! That hurt!

Thinlómien · 06-09-2008, 02:50 PM

Alright.

Lalaith - flies straight to the over-active imagination or (either deliberately or accidentally) misjudging me category.

morm - First off, thanks for explaining.

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Originally Posted by morm

Seriously though, part of the reason I suspect you is your insatiable desire to continually 'prove' your innocence. I've played many games with you and often times find you suspicious but this time I find you suspicious for different reasons. You do have a different vibe to you almost as if you changed roles...

Care to elaborate/ give example? I don't get what you mean by this.

mormegil · 06-09-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

morm - First off, thanks for explaining. Care to elaborate/ give example? I don't get what you mean by this.

I've decided to switch off my targetting computer, as it were

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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi

Use the Force, Morm. Let go, Morm. Morm, trust me.

No other explination than the general feel and that, at least from me, is something you will have to live with and honestly you are not gaining points in my mind. If I were the seer I would dream of you or Lal.

Brinniel · 06-09-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lommy

If there's a good reason, please point it out to me. I can't see such.

Besides, many of you aren't giving almost any grounds at all.

I thought I already pointed out my reasons earlier toDay. Though I should also mention, your very defensive nature and that you keep saying "I don't understand why everyone finds me suspicious!" is odd in itself. If those aren't good enough reasons for you, I'm sorry.

Eönwë · 06-09-2008, 03:12 PM

Ok, my vote is obvious

++Nilpaurion Felagund

edit: Go Da Bandwaggon! *looks at tp sideways*

x-ed with Sally onwards

satansaloser2005 · 06-09-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë

Ok, my vote is obvious

++Nilpaurion Felagund

edit: Go Da Bandwaggon! *looks at tp sideways*

x-ed with Sally onwards

Sad part is, we know that the wolves are just going to pop right on in along with us.

Best we can do though. Need to catch the wolves one way or another.

EDIT: x'd with master morm, who is happily more talkative today (or I'm just paying him more attention than usual)

satansaloser2005 · 06-09-2008, 03:16 PM

Eon:
Not that it matters, but did you add the little "looking at phantom" thing? Or did I just not see it? Because I swear, when I quoted your post I didn't see it on there.

Maybe I'm just going crazy....

EDIT: To avoid triple post. Battery dying, so I'm out. Sleep tight everyone!

Eönwë · 06-09-2008, 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=satansaloser2005;558907]Sad part is, we know that the wolves are just going to pop right on in along with us./QUOTE]
Are you calling me a wolf? Quoting me like that!

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Eon:
Not that it matters, but did you add the little "looking at phantom" thing? Or did I just not see it? Because I swear, when I quoted your post I didn't see it on there.

no is the simple answer

satansaloser2005 · 06-09-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë

Are you calling me a wolf? Quoting me like that!

no is the simple answer

K good. I AM going crazy. Thanks for the confirmation.

Maybe....*shifty eyes* Not really. Notice how I said "us," brother dear.

EDIT: X'd with Brinn. And a practically dead battery.

Brinniel · 06-09-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sally

Sad part is, we know that the wolves are just going to pop right on in along with us.

Best we can do though. Need to catch the wolves one way or another.

I'm pretty sure that's why phantom wanted us to post summaries before revealing Nilp (as well as to see what we thought of him before we knew he was a wolf). Once revealed, people can just pop in and vote Nilp, then leave without sharing anymore thoughts...as some have already done.

Thinlómien · 06-09-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brinniel

Though I should also mention, your very defensive nature and that you keep saying "I don't understand why everyone finds me suspicious!" is odd in itself. If those aren't good enough reasons for you, I'm sorry.

You ought to be sorry.

I'm defensive because I see there's a lot of suspicion against me and I do not plan to spend whole toMorrow debating about my innocence or the lack of it, so I'm hoping to get some of that done toDay. It seems it's not helping.

And I would not repeat my statement of not understanding/ being baffled if you guys weren't bringing it up. And besides, the thing I'm mostly thinking about right now is why on earth you all suspect me and does that makes you wolves and if yes, who. May very well be a waste of time but as it's so silent otherwise and people keep bringing odd/silly/feeling-based (ie odd since they should not be having those feelings) points against me.

I'm willing to move to any other topic but a lot of discussion just seems to be revolving around me (partly my fault, I know), so I prefer to take part in it, not just stand by.

edit: xed with everybody since my last post

mormegil · 06-09-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I'm willing to move to any other topic but a lot of discussion just seems to be revolving around me (partly my fault, I know), so I prefer to take part in it, not just stand by.

Partly your fault? I dare say almost wholly your fault. By no means are you a serious lynch candidate today

and yet you insist on proclaiming your innocence. You act as though tomorrow you will be the center of discussion which lends itself well to my thought that you are feeling a bit edgy right now. You wolves got a bit overly confident and now you are seeing the village make a good run. You are losing another of your mates tonight and your precious EW will be dead soon enough and we will have a seer to boot! I would say you are not in a pretty spot and you are feeling the heat.

Thinlómien · 06-09-2008, 03:27 PM

Ok, morm remains in the could be either category. But that lack of explanation was slightly suspicious, it looked like you had no reason to say it in the first place.

edit: xed once again, with everybody

mormegil · 06-09-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Ok, morm remains in the could be either category. But that lack of explanation was slightly suspicious, it looked like you had no reason to say it in the first place.

Truth is Lommy, you will never agree that any reason given would be sufficient, but I find my reasons sufficient and that is what matters to me, now if I could just find that bagel.

Lalaith · 06-09-2008, 03:45 PM

Anyway people, bear in mind that we are now (discounting the 2 known evils Rikae and Nilp, and 1 known goodie Phantom) 17 villagers, of which only two are wolves.
In other words, 15 against two, pretty good odds.
If Rikae manages to create another wolf tonight, that's stil 14 against three.

I think Nilp was an original wolf (trusted lieutenant, eh?) and Cailin a newer wolf. So I think our remaining wolves are one original and one new.

If Rikae does manage to get another wolf tonight, then there will be a wolf posting tomorrow who has been innocent up until now. It's worth bearing in mind when wolf-hunting.

Eönwë · 06-09-2008, 03:45 PM

All I can say is- at least we're not gulping down pages as fast as before (25 in 3 days)

I can't wait to see the nitpickers and werewolves misquote me on this.

Thinlómien · 06-09-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by morm

By no means are you a serious lynch candidate today and yet you insist on proclaiming your innocence.

I already explained that I intend to dedicate time to wolf-hunting toMorrow, not just to defending myself so I'm doing some of that now so that I wouldn't have to do it toMorrow...

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Originally Posted by morm

You act as though tomorrow you will be the center of discussion

Unless tp and his seer find out any wolves, I do guess I will be, since so many are suspecting me now. (That is of course unless tp has found out my role and decides to share it with you before he duels.)

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which lends itself well to my thought that you are feeling a bit edgy right now.

Edgy? Not actually. I'm not worried about dying. Of course I'd prefer to live, but it's not horrible if I die. We can afford lynching an ordo toMorrow or they Day after it. I'm just (here we go again Brinn

) mystified by the incomprehensible amount of suspicion against me and somewhat annoyed by the level of argumentation against me (wolves best hide when lousy argumentation is around and we can't win this game if everybody's brain is asleep) and by the fact that those who suspect me don't take my arguments seriously.

I must admit my annoyance and retaliatory suspicion might be a little stupid and partly ill-based, since it's perfectly okay, acceptable and normal to suspect people based on minor reasons and gut-feelings. However, if the gut-feelings of guilt are of an innocent me, the initial reaction to me is that there's something wrong with it. (As there might very well be.)

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You wolves got a bit overly confident and now you are seeing the village make a good run. You are losing another of your mates tonight and your precious EW will be dead soon enough and we will have a seer to boot! I would say you are not in a pretty spot and you are feeling the heat.

My feelings have absolutely nothing to do with those of the wolves. I'm not really worried, like I said, we can afford losing an ordinary villager, even if it's someone as smart

as I am. And as for the wolves - I pity them, I truly do. If this game continues this way, it's hardly nice for them... (or for us, for that matter. I mean, it's nice that GW and seer find wolves but it makes the ordos feel a little useless. Well, we'll - sadly - eventually get rid of our GW and probably the seer to, so I guess there will be time when wits are sorely needed again...)

edit: xed with morm & Izzie

Thinlómien · 06-09-2008, 03:46 PM

Oh, Izzie joined the club, quite sneakily. Straight to the "suspicious" actegory. I'm beginning to enjoy this.

I just hope you can value it when you've lynched me and found out I'm innocent.

morm - thanks for saying that, there's more than a little reason in that.

I know I'm innocent and therefore I can't consider any argument that contradicts it as truthful or good. Okay, I'll stop complaining about the level of your arguments (unless there's something totally outrageous). But don't expect me to stop complaining about the amount of suspicion against me, I still think it's alarming.

edit: xed with Lalaith and Eönwë - and I'm now handing this keyboard to Greenie. I will probably be back sometime late, but I'm not sure.

Isabellkya · 06-09-2008, 03:50 PM

Yes well, enjoying this type of Waffle is o.O.

Durelin · 06-09-2008, 04:26 PM

I do think we should let up on poor Eonwe about him being new, heh...must be pretty sick of being reminded of that by now. I know no one means to say new=bad, but...

Okay, now that that's out of the way, I find Eonwe's last post amusing in a couple rather different ways...

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Originally Posted by Brinniel

I'm pretty sure that's why phantom wanted us to post summaries before revealing Nilp (as well as to see what we thought of him before we knew he was a wolf). Once revealed, people can just pop in and vote Nilp, then leave without sharing anymore thoughts...as some have already done.

This was why I kept wincing when I read over the earlier part of toDay's posts, with all the pressure people were putting on phantom to reveal more information. *le sigh* Yes, he's a royal...well, fill in the blank with the worst you got, but...as I said, I see no reason not to trust the information he gives us. And I consider things like "there's one person's list I want to see in particular" as pretty blatant information.

I "agree" that Isabel's list was pretty boring and predictable. But it takes guts to be after Roa the entire game...well, not that she's been particularly fierce about it

satansaloser2005 · 06-09-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë

Yeah! You tell them!

Owww! That hurt!

I second (or is it third? Heh I don't know. anyway....) Play nice children.

And by the way, I think you (Rikae) and Mac have been having a streak of bad luck. I remember another game where you were a wolf and....well, the poor fellow. But all's fair in love and Werewolf.

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Originally Posted by mormegil

Perhaps Nog might clarify but I don't really see that we should be talking to dead people about the game it really does affect the integrity of the whole thing.

Clarification: Di was going to text me with the lynch since I won't be around at Day's end, nothing more. But since it's pretty obvious who's dying, she pretty much won't need to. I'd tell her via IM, but she wasn't on at the time.

I've still had fun, although since so much is out in the open now, it kind of kills it. No offense, but I'll be kind of happy when the wizards are dead and we get to do things ourselves. *violent Sally is not at all violent, oh no, not me*

06-09-2008, 03:12 PM	#5
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Ok, my vote is obvious ++Nilpaurion Felagund edit: Go Da Bandwaggon! looks at tp sideways x-ed with Sally onwards __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

06-09-2008, 03:16 PM	#7
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Eon: Not that it matters, but did you add the little "looking at phantom" thing? Or did I just not see it? Because I swear, when I quoted your post I didn't see it on there. Maybe I'm just going crazy.... EDIT: To avoid triple post. Battery dying, so I'm out. Sleep tight everyone! __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

06-09-2008, 03:27 PM	#13
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Ok, morm remains in the could be either category. But that lack of explanation was slightly suspicious, it looked like you had no reason to say it in the first place. edit: xed once again, with everybody __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

06-09-2008, 03:45 PM	#15
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Anyway people, bear in mind that we are now (discounting the 2 known evils Rikae and Nilp, and 1 known goodie Phantom) 17 villagers, of which only two are wolves. In other words, 15 against two, pretty good odds. If Rikae manages to create another wolf tonight, that's stil 14 against three. I think Nilp was an original wolf (trusted lieutenant, eh?) and Cailin a newer wolf. So I think our remaining wolves are one original and one new. If Rikae does manage to get another wolf tonight, then there will be a wolf posting tomorrow who has been innocent up until now. It's worth bearing in mind when wolf-hunting. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

06-09-2008, 03:45 PM	#16
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	All I can say is- at least we're not gulping down pages as fast as before (25 in 3 days) I can't wait to see the nitpickers and werewolves misquote me on this. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

06-09-2008, 03:46 PM	#18
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Oh, Izzie joined the club, quite sneakily. Straight to the "suspicious" actegory. I'm beginning to enjoy this. I just hope you can value it when you've lynched me and found out I'm innocent. morm - thanks for saying that, there's more than a little reason in that. I know I'm innocent and therefore I can't consider any argument that contradicts it as truthful or good. Okay, I'll stop complaining about the level of your arguments (unless there's something totally outrageous). But don't expect me to stop complaining about the amount of suspicion against me, I still think it's alarming. edit: xed with Lalaith and Eönwë - and I'm now handing this keyboard to Greenie. I will probably be back sometime late, but I'm not sure. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

06-09-2008, 03:50 PM	#19
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Yes well, enjoying this type of Waffle is o.O. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.