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Reflection of Darkness
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Yes Lommy, but just because a lot of people suspect you, it doesn't mean there isn't a good reason behind it. You may see it as "weak grounds," but others don't. And anyways, I have a good reason to comment because the last time someone questioned me for suspecting them, they turned out to be a wolf...
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![]() Besides, many of you aren't giving almost any grounds at all. (I give you the credit that you have at least raised a few actual points against me.) How on earth am I supposed to prove my innocence if no one gives a reason why they suspect me, or if their reasons are silly or irrational? I just can't see why you all suspect me. Some of you say that there's a different feel to me and that's all you say - but what can I reply to that? It is the thing that makes me most baffled, because there should be no different feel to me as I have not changed my playing style and I'm not a wolf. So, do some of you have an over-active imagination, do you misjudge me or are you wolves (or innocents ![]() And as for questioning someone's suspicion for oneself should be a basic human right, not a mark of wolvish behaviour....
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Maundering Mage
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Seriously though, part of the reason I suspect you is your insatiable desire to continually 'prove' your innocence. I've played many games with you and often times find you suspicious but this time I find you suspicious for different reasons. You do have a different vibe to you almost as if you changed roles...
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Blithe Spirit
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Ok, here's why I think Lommy is a wolf.
There are players I have difficulty getting a 'feel' for. Kath, for example, and Durelin (although having said that I did spot wolf-Durelin last time I played). But I do think I have a handle on Lommy, as it were, and every time I've played with Lommy before I've trusted her, and every time she's been innocent. (I think!) But this time she feels all wrong. Her participation in the debate yesterday for example: the confusion seemed fabricated, as did the refusing to acknowledge that Rikae might be the EW. Her last post "don't scry me please" yesterday sounded like a bid to make the GW think she (Lommy) was the EW rather than Rikae. And the whole Aganzir/Lommy routine reminded me of Roa/Valier in the last DW. There's some hard evidence there but it's mostly instinct and thus not as convincing to the rest of you as it could be. And of course I could be quite wrong. But there you have it.
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Blithe Spirit
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Oi! You wizards! Play nice!
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Yeah! You tell them! Owww! That hurt!
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Shady She-Penguin
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Alright.
Lalaith - flies straight to the over-active imagination or (either deliberately or accidentally) misjudging me category. ![]() morm - First off, thanks for explaining. Quote:
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Reflection of Darkness
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Ok, my vote is obvious
++Nilpaurion Felagund edit: Go Da Bandwaggon! *looks at tp sideways* x-ed with Sally onwards
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![]() Best we can do though. Need to catch the wolves one way or another. EDIT: x'd with master morm, who is happily more talkative today (or I'm just paying him more attention than usual)
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![]() ![]() I'm willing to move to any other topic but a lot of discussion just seems to be revolving around me (partly my fault, I know), so I prefer to take part in it, not just stand by. edit: xed with everybody since my last post
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Partly your fault? I dare say almost wholly your fault. By no means are you a serious lynch candidate today ![]()
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Shady She-Penguin
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Ok, morm remains in the could be either category. But that lack of explanation was slightly suspicious, it looked like you had no reason to say it in the first place.
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I second (or is it third? Heh I don't know. anyway....) Play nice children.
And by the way, I think you (Rikae) and Mac have been having a streak of bad luck. I remember another game where you were a wolf and....well, the poor fellow. But all's fair in love and Werewolf. ![]() Quote:
I've still had fun, although since so much is out in the open now, it kind of kills it. No offense, but I'll be kind of happy when the wizards are dead and we get to do things ourselves. *violent Sally is not at all violent, oh no, not me*
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Roa, I don't see how that is considered correcting yourself. When it seems to be, it is being corrected with most likely incorrect information. I still say there are only three wolves right now - not four.
In response to why I voted you - the first day, as I said it was part random/suspicion. Out of the people whom stuck out most in my head, I felt comfortable in voting for you. I do believe I answered this question pages and pages ago, when Brin had wondered about it. The second day - it was either between you or phantom, you'd both been arguing against each other for two Days in a row. I didn't think it wise to let it alone and see if you'd work it out between yourselves. It was too much distraction for the villag Ohkay.. this is mostly based upon yesterDay. Greenie: I think she innocentish, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was a wolf. Shasta: I would like to think him innocent, as he sometimes makes good points; though he does seem to have quite a number of joking/banter posts. Though again, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a furry creature whispering in his ear at night. Lommy: Furry. She makes good points, however she did quite the waffling act yesterDay. It seemed she went from Rikae's side to the phantom/Diamond side.. slowly and reluctantly throughout the course of the Day. It gave me the feel of someone abandoning a fool-sinking ship, but trying to keep their dignity along with it. Nilp: He has said some odd things, and until he pretty much revealed himself as having fur; I wouldn't know what to say. Eonwe: In the I don't know realm. Kath: Again, in the I don't know realm. Sally: She seems innocent enough to me, though there is quite a lot of silliness. I think there is more of that, than there are of actual suspicions and directly related ww discussion. Rikae: She is up to causing as much trouble as she can, which is fun to watch. phantom: I find his actions suspicious. How he decides to pull his strings is annoying. Lhuna: Realm of I am not sure. Durelin: I would like to think innocent. Roa: Furry. She makes good points, but she tends to contradict herself a bit, or atleast hold double standards. In the span of six posts yesterDay, she went from 'not convinced' to 'convinced'. She seemed to expect others to consider all of the possiblities, yet did not seem to do the same herself. Brin: I think she innocent with maybe a wolf gene lying dormant. Legate: I think he is a mutated wolf-innocent. Half his body is wolf, the other is villager. He has some good points, though him trying to "save" Ag in the beginning still bothers me. Though he did have some good comments yesterDay. Lalaith: Up until the later end of yesterDay, it seemed she was asking Roa a whole lot of questions concerning what the EW would do. The EW seemed to be more of the focus, rather than anything else. Though I do feel a bit better about her toDay. Morm: He does some odd things. I think innocent, but if turned out furry - I wouldn't be surprised. Celuien: No idea. Gwath: His actions can be questionable at times, but I think his intentions are there. Whether good or not, I'm leaning towards innocent. McCaber: His voting pattern is highly questionable. Other than that, meh. Granted, that my initial read-through of pages 20-24, I'd been clouded with the knowledge of knowing about the reveals and Cailin's wolfness. X'd since Lalaith's #1174.
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edit: when you post here, you alwayd x. So why bother write who with? You'll only miss the next 10 posts.
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Last minute check in. I'll have to be leaving shortly.
Durelin, I share the sentiments about lists and phantom. Quote:
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Morm is bugging me, alot. (Not in an annoying manner, but more in a "something's up" manner.) He keeps saying that certain people are suspicious, and yet never says why (not only Lommy). It makes me wonder if he's avoiding giving his reasons so that he can avoid committing to an opinion. Or perhaps he's not very good at manufacturing suspicion, and so is avoiding trying. Stop acting so sneaky and give a reason, morm. Quote:
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Brin, I was trying to come up with all of the possibilities, because too many people were just making assumptions. I was also expressing doubt in a way that might coax her into an answer. Since no onne had yet contradicted her, I had very little reason to doubt, but a lot of reason to wonder and be confused. Questions that appear open garner more with more info than direct "I don't trust you" statements. And I was also driven by the fact that phantom, whom I had been suspicious of since Day 1, was dead set against her, with what looked to me to be the flimsy reasoning of a supposed connection that we couldn't be sure existed. Eonwe, just ignore Rikae. She's trying to confuse/bait us. Isabelkya: Yet you only discussed phantom on both Day 1 and 2. And yes, I can start out unconvinced of something before I am convinced. I certainly can't be convinced right away, that would be silly. But what exactly was I convinced about, and can you show me where? Or are you just going along with general and flawed consensus that I trusted Rikae... well, ever? Lal: Someone we clearly know is evil is saying something about someone else, and you believe her? Okay back to the classroom!
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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++Nilp
Lalaith - he has lied or atleast bent the truth on a number of matters. Do I trust in everything he says 100%? No. Do I believe he has atleast some good intentions, and that there may be truth in what he says - sometimes, yes. He did prove to be atleast a bit trust worthy with giving us Cailin and Nilp (whom we shall see.) X'd with Roa.
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One quick thing that caught my attention. Izzie's analysis was slightly eyebrow-raising. It was pretty much go-with-the-flow -stuff (or else she just thinks about nearly everything in the same way with most of the village, but her phrasing seemed fishy), with a lot of those "Looks innocent, but I wouldn't be surprised if furry" -comments. Overall, the post looked somehow too forced to be genuine.
Not much else to say... I don't think I'll post any more toDay, so good Night dearies and I hope to see you toMorrow. Sweet dreams. ![]() EDIT: x-ed with Izzie
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I hope I'm not stating the obvious too much. These are the people Isabellkya was most suspicious of yesterDay, according to her suspicion-list. It is possible that the wolves saw something here they didn't like, and so silenced Isabellkya. It is equally possible that they intended to frame someone Isabellkya found suspicious by killing her. I'll post again in the morning before I go to work; I haven't the slightest idea how I'll vote yet. The past couple of days have drained all my independent thoughts and suspicions, and made me dependent on the instructions of wizards and gifteds and things. I'm going to have to relearn the art of actually suspecting people. ![]()
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