WW XXXX - The scouring of the Shire, vol.2 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Thinlómien · 12-04-2007, 03:54 AM

I will elaborate on why I believe those three are wolves in a few hours, when I have more time. However, I'd like to make a few short comments.

About every single post by Sally seems very wolvish to me. She does not seem innocent at all and she doesn't even deny being a wolf!

I think we should lynch her toDay, but like someone said, let's not concentrate only on her today.

Fea's post #277 seemed a bit too elaborate coming from an innocent's mouth (or keyboard), especially as she posted just 20 minutes after the deadline.

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Originally Posted by Farael

However, it just does not add up... Loomy is being extremely clueless, which is rather odd for her, at least the Loomy I knew a while back.

Clueless? Me?

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Originally Posted by TM

About Sally, if I were her I would make a post to try and defend and maybe explain my decisions and actions more clearly. Because all the explanations have, at least in my case, only managed to make me more confused and suspicious.

That's precisely what I said yesterDay about wolves not defending themselves...

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Originally Posted by morm

Kuru, as a veteran, should know that if I were a wolf I would never allow such a thing as what Green said.

Allow? How would you have prevented it?

I think I should read through Legate's posts but it qould be quite a massive operation so I'm not very enthusiastic about it.

I think it's odd (and somewhat worrysome) how little we've talked about his death. I mean, wolf kills are a huge part of any evidence we can get so we really shouldn't disregard them.

And unless my opinion changes greatly during toDay, I'm ready to risk a Sally+morm double lynch.

EDIT: xed with the early birds Brinn and Sally...

satansaloser2005 · 12-04-2007, 04:14 AM

Early birds? I believe you mean late birds, love.

I need to respond to the last few posts, but right now I feel a nap coming on for at least a few minutes. Maybe if I get a chance before I head to work I'll post, it depends on how things are going paper-wise.

And again, I've had my fun and stirred the debate which I wanted stirred. May not make sense now, but it will. So lynch me if you must. Everyone knows there's nothing I can do to prove that I'm an ordo, so why even try? You'll just have to take my word for it, much like the last game, where I made quips and cracks to get reactions, and got them mind you, and got lynched towards the end of the game, only to be revealed as an innocent. Yay for me for having skills to look suspicious. If nothing else, provided that I survive day rounds I can be pretty sure that the wolves won't kill me during the night. I'm too juicy to not have stick around.

Thoughts....trailing....off....need....sleep....ge tting mental pictures of the werewolves playing soccer with Yorick's skull....weird....*zonks*

Brinniel · 12-04-2007, 04:43 AM

Okay, admittingly I've been waiting up the last several hours to take a shower, but for some stupid reason I still have no hot water, so it looks like I'm going to have to give up and turn in for now.

Just wanted to maked some final input before I go with another innocent/suspicious list:

Leaning Innocent
Mac
Kath
Mormegil

Neutral
Farael
Lommy
Fea
Kuru
Shasta

Slightly Suspicious
Aganzir
Sally

Very Suspicious
Menel
Volo

At this point, it looks like I'll probably be voting Menel or Volo unless something comes up that makes me change my mind. Sally is very very confusing...perhaps she's off the wall from lack of sleep, I don't know. But I still think that if she is a wolf, it's a very risky game she's playing here. I'd rather not lynch her toDay though; I'm just too uncertain about her right now and more confident about my other suspects.

I'll be back to read more posts later in the morning, though I can't guarantee I'll have time to post before class. But I will promise you I will return to vote before deadline.

Thinlómien · 12-04-2007, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Early birds? I believe you mean late birds, love.

That was supposed to be sardonic and mean comment, you know...

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Originally Posted by Brinn

But I still think that if she is a wolf, it's a very risky game she's playing here.

She's playing a risky and silly game, whether she is innocent (which I doubt) or a wolf...

I just had boooooring physics lesson and the time we weren't watching the Pink Panther (which was sadly about 90% of the lesson), I was thinking about ww, mostly Legate and his death. Now - without going through his posts - I think he might have been believed to be the seer.

All in all, I have a bad feeling I keep aiding the wolves unintentionally. I mean, I was the first one to highlight Valier's seerishly comment that was probably the cause of her death and now I have an uncanny feeling Legate's death might have something to do with my observations as well. (Maybe I should stop talking at all...) I mean, I did raise the issue of he trusting me through the whole game. So maybe he might have been thought to be the seer who had dreamt of me on Night1...? I think that if someone looked through his posts, there might be found other people the wolves might have believed him to have dreamed of. Now, I'm well aware this argument sounds pretty futile without Legate's words about anyone else than me myself (sounds suspiciously convenient, I know) to back up my argument. But I thought I'd mention that as a possibility.

If I have time, I'd be very interested to have a look if this hypothesis of mine holds water at all, but for a while, I think I'm going to concentrate on presenting my case on why I think Greenie, Sally, morm and Fea were the original wolf square (for they surely can't be called a triangle, right?

) ...

EDIT: xed with Aganzeer

satansaloser2005 · 12-04-2007, 06:32 AM

Physics? Oh that must have been why I took a nap. I felt your pain.

I need to post basically just to get a bit of wits about me so I can continue writing. Apparently either people aren't understanding my posts or not liking them or something, I don't know. They make sense to me, but then again that's because i wrote them.

I'll go with plain English then. I'm not going to relook up all my evidence because some of it's been talked about repeatedly and some of it in light of recent posts doesn't matter.

My suspicion list: basically the same but I added Brinn. Here's why.

I still think Morm to be a wolf. I know, I'm stubborn, but it's a gut thing. He strikes me as fuzzy. Thus in my sleepy logic the ones trying to help him are either in cahoots with him or just believe him. Either way she's added just based on that. Definitely not enough to vote her or anything, just something to consider if/when Morm is revealed as a wolf. Again, I have my one hunch and can't let go of it, which isn't wrong in itself because surprisingly I'm normally right, but the problem is that Brinn isn't necessarily guilty or innocent based on that one action;' I'm just reminding myself to check into her again later.

And yeah I know I'm playing kind of on the edge this game. It's finals week next week and all so I have enough stuff on my plate. Makes it hard to put 2+2 and get 4 and then write it in a sensical fashion. So I figured I'd give the "let all heck break loose and see who says something interesting" approach. It's quite interesting actually, because I do this almost every game I play in and have never gotten reactions quite like this before. I'll have to change it up and adapt a little to better suit this particular board, but for now I'll have to use my sarcasm theory to find the hairy little beasts until my actual brain comes back

Thinlómien · 12-04-2007, 06:58 AM

The post I'm writing will be megalomaniac... couldn't finish it now so I have to finish it later which doesn't mean soon...

satansaloser2005 · 12-04-2007, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

The post I'm writing will be megalomaniac... couldn't finish it now so I have to finish it later which doesn't mean soon...

Don't fret Lommy. I keep making snippets of posts but never enough time to actually arrange them all in order and such so that I can say "a, b, c, etc." and have it make sense. hopefully during class I'll be able to post, whilst hearing Purdon speak on and on about the Tempest. Don't be suprised if I call someone Ariel.

Oh yes and for those of you from the last game, I had had that strange dream regarding the game? Well I had one whilst I napped this "morning". It was quite amusing when I woke up and realized that I wasn't really on my computer, then had to check the game to make sure that I had indeed been dreaming. Quite fun indeed. Alrighty, back to paper land, and then leaving for work in half an hour. I'll be able to post a couple hours before deadline so if you have questions for me or if I need to respond to something be patient, and I'll be back online as soon as I can.

mormegil · 12-04-2007, 07:22 AM

DUH! It just hit me why Green attached herself to me. *hits himself for being so dim-witted* She knew she was a wolf and knew I am innocent, but it looked highly probable when she kept asking why I seem guilty that I would be lynched. What a better way to look good, though it does backfire occasionally, than to question why the main lynch suspect is well...the main lynch suspect when you know him to be innocent.

Shasta I don't think you guilty at the time just a bit lazy in your analysis. You are allowing the wolves to influence you friend and for that I feel sorry for you.

12-04-2007, 04:43 AM	#3
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	Okay, admittingly I've been waiting up the last several hours to take a shower, but for some stupid reason I still have no hot water, so it looks like I'm going to have to give up and turn in for now. Just wanted to maked some final input before I go with another innocent/suspicious list: Leaning Innocent Mac Kath Mormegil Neutral Farael Lommy Fea Kuru Shasta Slightly Suspicious Aganzir Sally Very Suspicious Menel Volo At this point, it looks like I'll probably be voting Menel or Volo unless something comes up that makes me change my mind. Sally is very very confusing...perhaps she's off the wall from lack of sleep, I don't know. But I still think that if she is a wolf, it's a very risky game she's playing here. I'd rather not lynch her toDay though; I'm just too uncertain about her right now and more confident about my other suspects. I'll be back to read more posts later in the morning, though I can't guarantee I'll have time to post before class. But I will promise you I will return to vote before deadline. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

12-04-2007, 06:32 AM	#5
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Physics? Oh that must have been why I took a nap. I felt your pain. I need to post basically just to get a bit of wits about me so I can continue writing. Apparently either people aren't understanding my posts or not liking them or something, I don't know. They make sense to me, but then again that's because i wrote them. I'll go with plain English then. I'm not going to relook up all my evidence because some of it's been talked about repeatedly and some of it in light of recent posts doesn't matter. My suspicion list: basically the same but I added Brinn. Here's why. I still think Morm to be a wolf. I know, I'm stubborn, but it's a gut thing. He strikes me as fuzzy. Thus in my sleepy logic the ones trying to help him are either in cahoots with him or just believe him. Either way she's added just based on that. Definitely not enough to vote her or anything, just something to consider if/when Morm is revealed as a wolf. Again, I have my one hunch and can't let go of it, which isn't wrong in itself because surprisingly I'm normally right, but the problem is that Brinn isn't necessarily guilty or innocent based on that one action;' I'm just reminding myself to check into her again later. And yeah I know I'm playing kind of on the edge this game. It's finals week next week and all so I have enough stuff on my plate. Makes it hard to put 2+2 and get 4 and then write it in a sensical fashion. So I figured I'd give the "let all heck break loose and see who says something interesting" approach. It's quite interesting actually, because I do this almost every game I play in and have never gotten reactions quite like this before. I'll have to change it up and adapt a little to better suit this particular board, but for now I'll have to use my sarcasm theory to find the hairy little beasts until my actual brain comes back __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm. Last edited by satansaloser2005; 12-04-2007 at 06:46 AM.

12-04-2007, 06:58 AM	#6
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	The post I'm writing will be megalomaniac... couldn't finish it now so I have to finish it later which doesn't mean soon... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-04-2007, 07:22 AM	#8
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	DUH! It just hit me why Green attached herself to me. hits himself for being so dim-witted She knew she was a wolf and knew I am innocent, but it looked highly probable when she kept asking why I seem guilty that I would be lynched. What a better way to look good, though it does backfire occasionally, than to question why the main lynch suspect is well...the main lynch suspect when you know him to be innocent. Shasta I don't think you guilty at the time just a bit lazy in your analysis. You are allowing the wolves to influence you friend and for that I feel sorry for you. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

12-04-2007, 04:14 AM	#2
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Early birds? I believe you mean late birds, love. I need to respond to the last few posts, but right now I feel a nap coming on for at least a few minutes. Maybe if I get a chance before I head to work I'll post, it depends on how things are going paper-wise. And again, I've had my fun and stirred the debate which I wanted stirred. May not make sense now, but it will. So lynch me if you must. Everyone knows there's nothing I can do to prove that I'm an ordo, so why even try? You'll just have to take my word for it, much like the last game, where I made quips and cracks to get reactions, and got them mind you, and got lynched towards the end of the game, only to be revealed as an innocent. Yay for me for having skills to look suspicious. If nothing else, provided that I survive day rounds I can be pretty sure that the wolves won't kill me during the night. I'm too juicy to not have stick around. Thoughts....trailing....off....need....sleep....ge tting mental pictures of the werewolves playing soccer with Yorick's skull....weird....zonks __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.