Unfinished Tales - Part One - II - Narn I Hín Húrin

[Galadriel55]

Pitch mentioned a few things that sparked some thought...

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

For one, there's his love and mourning for his sister Lalaith, which is but briefly mentioned in the Sil but treated more fully here.

I wonder why this isn't labeled as "the first sorrow of Turin". Was he then too young to understand the full impact of Lalaith's death?

Originally Posted by Pitchie

Secondly, there's the character of Sador Labadal, who is one of my all-time favourite characters in Tolkien's writings (as I never tire of mentioning), for several reasons.

I think it is also interesting to compare Sador with Brandir. They are, in a way, interchangable. Both have a limp, both are wise, and both are close to Turin. However, Turin couldn't have treated them more differently. Just comparing Hopafoot vs Clubfoot, and name given out of pity vs an insult, gives enough information. Labadal was more of a mentor (and thus clearly superior and demanding respect) and Brandir more of a friend/equal, but that still leaves Turin's behavious to them. It shows how much Turin's tragedies have hardened him over the years; he is going from a kind, gentle boy to a harsh, demanding, about-to-explode man. As you said, his good qualities are often overshadowed.

Originally Posted by Pitch

The problem with her, as I see it, is not her pride as such, but the fact that in case of doubt, she would put her pride and honour above all other considerations - including the needs of her young son (who missed her sorely in Doriath) and the safety of her unborn babe. Pride as such is OK, but you should know when it's wise to swallow it, and Morwen never did. This at least is one negative trait Túrin seems to have inherited from her.

Yes!

Originally Posted by Pitch

*(PS. - It turns out I can't rep you at the moment, but consider yourself virtually repped for your posts on this thread; that was well thought and well argued.)

As good as having another green square under my CP. Thank you.