Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Got a place beside a power-outlet...

Okay. It's D2 and after Lottielf's death we have a good reason to believe Sally is not an elf. I do agree with Nerwen that it is possible she is - like it is possible anyone of us is - but this is not the reason to lynch her because the odds are against her being an elf. And unlike with many others with whom we only have these ideas like "he could be a submarine-elf" or "she might have acted like that as an elf", with Sally we have the fact that an elf went in concord with her that openly in the beginning of the Day. That two elves did that is more improbable than any of our "could be's" or "might have's".

Although I must admit that everytime Sally opens her mouth I feel like suspecting her against the "facts".

Also, I think the phantom is innocent - and is no seer. If he wasn't dreamt of yet by the seer then now he is. So let's leave him be. Also, if I'm right in what he is doing he makes perfect sense in his own way we all should be used to.

1. As has been stated, Lottie's vote doesn't really tell us much about Sally and there's no reason to think they weren't elves together. Plus Sally's first post of the day stinks of elvish soap.

2. Unless you're the Seer (which I doubt), you (obviously) can't know what the Seer's dream was last night. In fact, given that Phantom didn't go through his "lol guys I was just kidding" song-and-dance yesterday before Night fell, I'd argue that the Seer probably didn't dream Phantom - what Seer dreams of someone who is, to them, already confirmed to be lying? The way you are in favor of just giving Phantom a pass today strikes me as suspicious, and makes me think worse of you.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

1. As has been stated, Lottie's vote doesn't really tell us much about Sally and there's no reason to think they weren't elves together. Plus Sally's first post of the day stinks of elvish soap.

Lottie's vote doesn't prove Sally is innocent.That I can agree with. And it is possible they are both elves - like it is more or less possible anyone of you guys are. But two elves boldly voting in similar way in the beginning is much more improbable than Lottie just trying to sail on an easy banter-vote (and how wrong she was!). If they both were elves there would have been a thought of carefulness because of the mate, because of the possible pairing in the eyes of others...

And anyway, what I'm saying was and is that the above makes it more improbable Sally is an elf, not that she couldn't be one. Her posting looks suspcious toDay, I said it already myself on my previous post, but not so much as to overdo the sheer probabilities.

2. Unless you're the Seer (which I doubt), you (obviously) can't know what the Seer's dream was last night. In fact, given that Phantom didn't go through his "lol guys I was just kidding" song-and-dance yesterday before Night fell, I'd argue that the Seer probably didn't dream Phantom - what Seer dreams of someone who is, to them, already confirmed to be lying? The way you are in favor of just giving Phantom a pass today strikes me as suspicious, and makes me think worse of you.

phantom's actions just cry for the seer to dream of him. And looking at the mess he has managed to make - two Days more or less talking only about him - would make the seer more or less irresponsible if s/he didn't dream of him and check him.

If you think you are bored to talk about tp then let him be and leave him to the seer.


EDIT: X'd from Shasta onwards...

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Glirdan has died of a broken heart (caused by scheduling issues that have deprived the village of his wonderful self). He was an ordo.

If I have to modfire anybody else, I'ma mass murder the lot of you, declare myself winner, and pout for a very long time. All y'all stop having to drop out mah game!

[Nogrod]

It's once again getting late for me and I need to start thinking about my choice for representative.

Actually I would have loved to see Rune as one but if he's going to be drunk and not able to read the whole thread then I'll pass him. If someone already has the "alibi" of making his decision in random there's little to read on that the next Day.

I might go for Legate. He seems observant enough to see what is going on but it's still hard for me to get a proper read on him. Although as a European he will probbly need to vote a bit early as the DL is just plain crazy here (4am in Finland).

Or I could go for Lommy as I tend to trust her both for her vote (it would have been crazy for an elf to cast that number of votes on a fellow) and her frustrations felt genuine.

Needs to think and to check the situation.


EDIT: What? Glirdy drops off as well! Hey guys, stop dropping off!!!