Paths of the Dead - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

secretfire · 04-03-2003, 04:39 AM

Does anyone have any advance information on whether the Paths of the Dead is in the third installment? I mean, there's been so many cuts already. If yes, will Elrond's twins and the rest of the Dunedain be there? Also, how will the Ghost Army be portrayed? Thanks.

Mornie Alantie · 04-03-2003, 10:58 AM

I am pretty sure the paths of the dead was supposed to be in it. Im a magor spolier lookfore person. We'll have to wait to see what PJ's got up his sleeves to see the Dead army. Also the sons of Elrond are 99.9% sure are not going to be in it. It is clear that the movie is portraying Arwen as Elronds only child. I doubt the Dunedian will be thier either, Most likely if any others go it will be elves and Arwen. But I wouldn't be supprised if the Dunedian show up.

HCIsland · 04-03-2003, 11:39 AM

I agree. I have a movie production book that my wife picked up for me that talks about the Paths of the Dead, so at the very least they filmed the scenes. I also doubt we will see Elrond's sons or the Dunedain. If they were planning for either of these were to show up, I think they would have introduced their existence by now in at least the FoTR Special Edition.H.C.

Arwen Evenstar the Fair · 04-03-2003, 04:21 PM

Yes, from what I've heard it is suppossed to be in the movie. Besides they wouldn't be able to get away with taking that out, I mean, they NEED that in it!!!

Morwen Tindomerel · 04-03-2003, 08:00 PM

Actually we *have* seen the twins, who do you think those two younger looking Elves seated on either side of Elrond at the Council were? And even in the books the sudden appearance of the Grey Company is the first we see of other Rangers. Nevertheless I am resigning myself to no Grey Company in RotK. Ah well, that's what fanfic is for.

Tinuviel87 · 04-03-2003, 08:13 PM

Were those two really Elladan and Elrohir? Hm.. will have to go have a look at that... But anyways from what I've heard the paths will be in the movie... but the scouring of the shire won't...tottally irrelavant but I'm still quite upset about that as it is one of my favorite chapters. Oh well...

Morwen Tindomerel · 04-03-2003, 08:16 PM

Well nobody actually says they are Elladan and Elrohir, but who else would they be? I think they may also have been the two Elf Men standing with Arwen as the Company leaves Rivendell.

Tinuviel87 · 04-03-2003, 08:21 PM

Good call Morwen...I'd like to belive it was them though because otherwise I will have to suffice with no Elladan and Elrohir so I'll just go off and watch FotR for the 600th time living in an illusion BTW...Where in the name of the Valar is Arwen supposed to be going when she leaves Rivendell? The Havens? That makes no sense though becasue she has to obviously be there to marry Aragorn...hmmm... I wnder how PJ will work that one out?

secretfire · 04-04-2003, 04:25 AM

I guess Peter Jackson will make her deviate from the path to the Havens to a place where she'll furiously start sewing Aragorn's bejeweled banner to be unfurled in The Return of the King!

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 04-04-2003, 05:14 AM

How can there be no Dunedain? Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas are going to look quite ridiculous jumping off the black ship and charging Sauron's army all by themselves.Or is it all going to get a bit Elvish?

04-04-2003, 08:45 AM

I really hope to see Elladan and Elrohir and the other Rangers. Hope the Paths of dead won't be too creapy?!

peonydeepdelver · 04-04-2003, 08:56 AM

Perhaps PJ will make the Rohirrim and Theoden and Dernhelm/Eowyn and Merry all go through the Paths of the Dead too, then when they get to Gondor they'll fight the Witch-king. Sorry, I'm a little rusty, haven't read ROTK for a while.

Morwen Tindomerel · 04-04-2003, 03:43 PM

I suppose one shouldn't completely give up hope for the Grey Company, but I am trying to harden myself to the likelihood of not seeing them. As for where Arwen is going when she leaves Rivendell, I think we can count on it *not* being the Havens. There is some reason to think she's had Narsil reforged and will bring it to Aragorn in RotK. It is almost certain she is going to show up by his side at some point, but what she'll do then is anybody's guess, though a catfight with Eowyn seems unlikely. And I understand we have Ian McKellans' word that she doesn't do *any* fighting, which is a relief.

04-03-2003, 04:39 AM	#1
secretfire Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 21	Paths of the Dead Does anyone have any advance information on whether the Paths of the Dead is in the third installment? I mean, there's been so many cuts already. If yes, will Elrond's twins and the rest of the Dunedain be there? Also, how will the Ghost Army be portrayed? Thanks. __________________ "Leave now and never come back! (3x)" Dr. Gollum's prescribed mantra against multiple personality disorder.

04-03-2003, 10:58 AM	#2
Mornie Alantie Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere above earth cause people say i should come down to it Posts: 226	I am pretty sure the paths of the dead was supposed to be in it. Im a magor spolier lookfore person. We'll have to wait to see what PJ's got up his sleeves to see the Dead army. Also the sons of Elrond are 99.9% sure are not going to be in it. It is clear that the movie is portraying Arwen as Elronds only child. I doubt the Dunedian will be thier either, Most likely if any others go it will be elves and Arwen. But I wouldn't be supprised if the Dunedian show up. __________________ Instead of pepper spray, you pack a glass bottle and scream "Aiya Earendil Elenion Ancalima!!!" at muggers.

04-03-2003, 11:39 AM	#3
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I agree. I have a movie production book that my wife picked up for me that talks about the Paths of the Dead, so at the very least they filmed the scenes. I also doubt we will see Elrond's sons or the Dunedain. If they were planning for either of these were to show up, I think they would have introduced their existence by now in at least the FoTR Special Edition.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

04-03-2003, 04:21 PM	#4
Arwen Evenstar the Fair Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gondor Posts: 235	Yes, from what I've heard it is suppossed to be in the movie. Besides they wouldn't be able to get away with taking that out, I mean, they NEED that in it!!! __________________ ~Arwen~

04-03-2003, 08:00 PM	#5
Morwen Tindomerel Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Minas Anor or Annuminas the Golden Posts: 187	Actually we have seen the twins, who do you think those two younger looking Elves seated on either side of Elrond at the Council were? And even in the books the sudden appearance of the Grey Company is the first we see of other Rangers.<P> Nevertheless I am resigning myself to no Grey Company in RotK. Ah well, that's what fanfic is for.

04-03-2003, 08:13 PM	#6
Tinuviel87 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Heelllloooo Monkey...... Posts: 65	Were those two really Elladan and Elrohir? Hm.. will have to go have a look at that... But anyways from what I've heard the paths will be in the movie... but the scouring of the shire won't...tottally irrelavant but I'm still quite upset about that as it is one of my favorite chapters. Oh well... __________________ Don't Rate Me!(Reverse Psychology?) "And the song of Luthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed..."

04-03-2003, 08:16 PM	#7
Morwen Tindomerel Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Minas Anor or Annuminas the Golden Posts: 187	Well nobody actually says they are Elladan and Elrohir, but who else would they be? I think they may also have been the two Elf Men standing with Arwen as the Company leaves Rivendell.

04-03-2003, 08:21 PM	#8
Tinuviel87 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Heelllloooo Monkey...... Posts: 65	Good call Morwen...I'd like to belive it was them though because otherwise I will have to suffice with no Elladan and Elrohir so I'll just go off and watch FotR for the 600th time living in an illusion BTW...Where in the name of the Valar <I>is</I> Arwen supposed to be going when she leaves Rivendell? The Havens? That makes no sense though becasue she has to obviously be there to marry Aragorn...hmmm... I wnder how PJ will work that one out? __________________ Don't Rate Me!(Reverse Psychology?) "And the song of Luthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed..."

04-04-2003, 04:25 AM	#9
secretfire Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 21	I guess Peter Jackson will make her deviate from the path to the Havens to a place where she'll furiously start sewing Aragorn's bejeweled banner to be unfurled in The Return of the King! __________________ "Leave now and never come back! (3x)" Dr. Gollum's prescribed mantra against multiple personality disorder.

04-04-2003, 05:14 AM	#10
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	How can there be no Dunedain? Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas are going to look quite ridiculous jumping off the black ship and charging Sauron's army all by themselves.<P>Or is it all going to get a bit Elvish? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

04-04-2003, 08:45 AM	#11
Merenwen Telrúnya Guest Posts: n/a	I really hope to see Elladan and Elrohir and the other Rangers. <BR>Hope the Paths of dead won't be too creapy?!

04-04-2003, 08:56 AM	#12
peonydeepdelver Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alas, I hail from Massachusetts Posts: 256	Perhaps PJ will make the Rohirrim and Theoden and Dernhelm/Eowyn and Merry all go through the Paths of the Dead too, then when they get to Gondor they'll fight the Witch-king. Sorry, I'm a little rusty, haven't read ROTK for a while. __________________ "Nazgul, Nazgul! You speak of what is deep beyond the reach of your muddy dreams, Ugluk! Nazgul! Ah! All that they make out! One day you'll wish that you had not said that. Ape! You ought to know that they're the apple of the Great Eye." ~Grishnakh

04-04-2003, 03:43 PM	#13
Morwen Tindomerel Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Minas Anor or Annuminas the Golden Posts: 187	I suppose one shouldn't completely give up hope for the Grey Company, but I am trying to harden myself to the likelihood of not seeing them.<P> As for where Arwen is going when she leaves Rivendell, I think we can count on it not being the Havens. There is some reason to think she's had Narsil reforged and will bring it to Aragorn in RotK. <P> It is almost certain she is going to show up by his side at some point, but what she'll do then is anybody's guess, though a catfight with Eowyn seems unlikely. And I understand we have Ian McKellans' word that she doesn't do any fighting, which is a relief.