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Findegil · 08-11-2022, 02:47 AM

I agree to the idea that the Nauglamir being made for Finrod and being the only treasure transproted by Húrin alone to Doriath, is a nice 'end point' for the line of development in in which the fight of the Outlaws in Menegroth was eliminated. And with the story as told in Concerning ... 'The Hoard', where JRR Tolkien removed the fight of the Dwarvish smiths in Menegroth the elimination of the Outlaws became 'unnecessary', since one fight in Thingols Halls before his fall is okay but two are too much.

But as long as we have no farther info about what we call Text X, it is still speculation. Tolkiens motive for the Nauglamir made for Finrod could be completly diffrent. Over all we see a constant expansion of the role the Dwarves play in the stories of Beleriand. And a development from more doubios race to the noble children of Aulë. In that 'line of development' the earlier history of the Nauglamir could be a way to enhance the dwarfish claim for the necklace.

But that is as well specutlation, and according to the sound principle that in complex matter the theroy should be as simple as possible, I agree that Text X most likely was later then the other sources but predated Concerning ... 'The Hoard'.

Respectfully
Findegil

08-11-2022, 02:47 AM	#34
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	I agree to the idea that the Nauglamir being made for Finrod and being the only treasure transproted by Húrin alone to Doriath, is a nice 'end point' for the line of development in in which the fight of the Outlaws in Menegroth was eliminated. And with the story as told in Concerning ... 'The Hoard', where JRR Tolkien removed the fight of the Dwarvish smiths in Menegroth the elimination of the Outlaws became 'unnecessary', since one fight in Thingols Halls before his fall is okay but two are too much. But as long as we have no farther info about what we call Text X, it is still speculation. Tolkiens motive for the Nauglamir made for Finrod could be completly diffrent. Over all we see a constant expansion of the role the Dwarves play in the stories of Beleriand. And a development from more doubios race to the noble children of Aulë. In that 'line of development' the earlier history of the Nauglamir could be a way to enhance the dwarfish claim for the necklace. But that is as well specutlation, and according to the sound principle that in complex matter the theroy should be as simple as possible, I agree that Text X most likely was later then the other sources but predated Concerning ... 'The Hoard'. Respectfully Findegil