TIG CXVII: GAME Thread: - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

satansaloser2005 · 04-25-2021, 03:36 PM

I mean, you're literally asking for it, so yes, fine, I'm the seer. Of all games to be busy at the wrong times.

Boro and Morsul are innocent. Sadly that's all I know of use right now.

Night one: Boro (because my prince!)
Night two: Morsul
Night three: Lottie (again, sorry!)

Like I said, the dead are fallible.

Thinlómien · 04-25-2021, 03:37 PM

Oh. My. God.

Okay I am not voting until I have processed data.

Sorry, a more coherent post coming up soon.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-25-2021, 03:38 PM

What in the name of all.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-25-2021, 03:39 PM

And here I was just trying to use reason to figure out some Wolfproof way to vote.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-25-2021, 03:53 PM

Okay, so back to the drawing board.

We have a Ghost thing pointing at one of Morsul, Pitch and Sally.

Then we have Sally claiming to be the Seer and saying that Boro and Morsul is innocent.

So this would leave Pitch guilty by elimination, or else there is something completely messed up.

Or sally is simply lying (and in a really bizarre way given that Morsul just voted her). To be honest that would be the easiest solution for this mess.

EDIT: x-ed with a few

Kath · 04-25-2021, 03:41 PM

This ridiculous by play between sally and Pitch is making me think there is more than one wolf in that little gang, because if sally is the Seer I'll eat my hat.

Form's death and Lottie's death point to her, GhostForm was happy with Morsul's vote and we know the Dead Thread have some additional information even if it isn't totally concrete.

So I'll put my money where my mouth is and hope no one is misled by what is looking like one orchestrated as heck charade between sally and Pitch.

++sally

Thinlómien · 04-25-2021, 03:42 PM

Kath if you really are an innocent who thinks Sally and Pitch are having a charade, why don't you vote Pitch who certainly isn't the seer??????

satansaloser2005 · 04-25-2021, 03:43 PM

What the fork, Kath?!

Soriman the Whide · 04-25-2021, 04:03 PM

All of this unfolding is very confusing, it's a bombshell, perhaps the timing is not coincidence making me more suspicious of Pitch and Sally.

Not sure where to vote want to see what Thinlómien says. Edit: He already spoke and i missed the post sorry!

Kath · 04-25-2021, 03:44 PM

Ah and cross posted with exactly that.

satansaloser2005 · 04-25-2021, 03:46 PM

Two votes for me means we have to be very careful now, and I think a bit swift as well.

I think our only hope is if Kath is a wolf and we all vote her before I get to four? Am I wrong?

Obviously I won't be leaving my computer again. Sweet magical cupcakes.

x'd with Lommy, and exactly

Kath · 04-25-2021, 03:50 PM

Lommy, if you're an innocent and not a wolf, please go with your good sense here. Your own analysis of Lottie showed you a Pitch/sally/Morsul choice and GhostForm confirmed we were on the right lines. You were seconds off voting sally anyway, and only then did this little orchestration occur.

Boromir88 · 04-25-2021, 03:57 PM

So I’m only able to read not able to share more my thoughts and reaction. But I’m going with what I said earlier, the Ghost has given a list of at least 1 wolf. This is orchestrated by wolves.

++sally

Forgive me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty confident I’m not.

Thinlómien · 04-25-2021, 03:56 PM

Idk. I wouldn't put it past wolf!Sally to make a false seer reveal.

Then again, I have been waiting for the seer to reveal toDay. I mean, even if they're so unlucky all their dream subjects are dead, they could still give us one known innocent (themselves), and if the game continues, another known role toMorrow via the ghost. Surely that's what any sensible seer would do at this point when we have to lynch a wolf or die? If nothing else then at least to stop a fake reveal?

And no one has come forward except Sally. That makes me think she might be the real deal.

Anyway, if someone else than Sally is the seer, they should spill the beans now. Because if we trust Sally and she's not the seer, we're doomed. Knowing whether she's bluffing or not is a question between life and death for the village toDay.

(Also, so much for going to sleep early today...)

edit: xed with almost everyone

satansaloser2005 · 04-25-2021, 03:50 PM

Mind you, from what I guess the dead have told us, Pitch must be a wolf? I've been wrong before, so I suppose it's possible.

We all have to agree either way. Yikes.

x'd with Pitch

Pitchwife · 04-25-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Mind you, from what I guess the dead have told us, Pitch must be a wolf? I've been wrong before, so I suppose it's possible.

We all have to agree either way. Yikes.

x'd with Pitch

I thought the Dead were fallible?
I'd say vote myself rather than sally, but since I'm innocent, outcome would be the same.

satansaloser2005 · 04-25-2021, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitchwife

I thought the Dead were fallible?
I'd say vote myself rather than sally, but since I'm innocent, outcome would be the same.

They are fallible, which is why I haven't voted yet.

Gah, this is insanity. Bat excrement, as Lommy said the other day.

Kath · 04-25-2021, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Mind you, from what I guess the dead have told us, Pitch must be a wolf? I've been wrong before, so I suppose it's possible.

We all have to agree either way. Yikes.

x'd with Pitch

Ah so a few minutes ago the Dead are totally wrong and none of you, Morsul or Pitch could be a wolf, and you wouldn't vote for any of them. But now it's totally fine for Pitch to be a wolf and the Dead Thread do have information after all.

satansaloser2005 · 04-25-2021, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

Ah so a few minutes ago the Dead are totally wrong and none of you, Morsul or Pitch could be a wolf, and you wouldn't vote for any of them. But now it's totally fine for Pitch to be a wolf and the Dead Thread do have information after all.

Proving that we're all fallible, I guess.

Pitchwife · 04-25-2021, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kath

ah so a few minutes ago the dead are totally wrong and none of you, morsul or pitch could be a wolf, and you wouldn't vote for any of them. But now it's totally fine for pitch to be a wolf and the dead thread do have information after all.

<3

Thinlómien · 04-25-2021, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

Lommy, if you're an innocent and not a wolf, please go with your good sense here. Your own analysis of Lottie showed you a Pitch/sally/Morsul choice and GhostForm confirmed we were on the right lines. You were seconds off voting sally anyway, and only then did this little orchestration occur.

You know what? You're probably right. I just quickly skimmed through her posts toDay and they don't really add up.

And if we're wrong, then frankly, I think we're the worst village ever and deserve to go by lynching our seer.

++Sally

Cupcake, if you really are the seer, I'm so so sorry and I will humble grovel after the game is over.

Now I will go to sleep if I'll be able to.

edit: xed with Soriman and Legate

satansaloser2005 · 04-25-2021, 04:00 PM

Et tu, Boro?

Boromir88 · 04-25-2021, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Et tu, Boro?

Yeah sorry my dear. I think those antics just sealed my opinion.

satansaloser2005 · 04-25-2021, 04:16 PM

I realize this would be the perfect time for a song parody, but I'm afraid I haven't the time.

Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your cow!

satansaloser2005 · 04-25-2021, 04:21 PM

I don't even know who to vote for posterity....

Whether it's Kath or Pitch, well done to you and your packmates.

Formendacil · 04-25-2021, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Scouring of the Shire

When the Shirriffs came up to the lower one they were dumbfounded; but as soon as they saw how things were, most of them took off their feathers and joined in the revolt.

Ghost

Boromir88 · 04-25-2021, 04:28 PM

I’m just glad I didn’t vote earlier. Although being away on this day was a pain. Perhaps the chaos sally put us through is would have been avoided.

*Glares at Pitch too*

Understand sally, I still hold you in the highest respect and I do not envy the headaches you will feel when you wake up. But you can’t deny you have tried to give us a bunch of headaches with your stunt.

Thinlómien · 04-25-2021, 03:45 PM

If Sally is the seer (more about that in a sec) and neither of Morsul and Kath is a wolf we're dead for certain.

Ergo better hope one of the three is a wolf at least.

edit: xed with Sally and Kath

Morsul the Dark · 04-25-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

This ridiculous by play between sally and Pitch is making me think there is more than one wolf in that little gang, because if sally is the Seer I'll eat my hat

The easiest trick for a wolf hiding as seer naming innocents.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-25-2021, 04:08 PM

Okay, I will actually say what I was trying to reason for like an hour before this all mess started to happen. Basically it comes down to several main points. One is whether the Wolves came to this Day with a strong pull or whether they are just happy to bus one of them. That ties in with whether Morsul is innocent or not and if he is guilty, then whether sally is innocent or not. If Morsul is evil and sally is not, he started a bandwagon, the WWs hoping we follow, if we do, case closed. If they are both evil (and ergo now under the new events, sally is faking), he bussed her (or all the WWs did). If Morsul is innocent and sally is guilty, it's fairly straightforward. If Morsul is innocent and sally is innocent, ergo the Seer after her proclamation, then this is just a mess.

So let me get this right, it's kinda whether what we are seeing now is just sally-wolf trying to save herself, or whether the bandwagon we are seeing is the Wolf-drive, like betting all on one card. Is there a scenario we can somehow vote that would be Wolf-proof under these circumstances? I am trying to think.

Pitchwife · 04-25-2021, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

So let me get this right, it's kinda whether what we are seeing now is just sally-wolf trying to save herself, or whether the bandwagon we are seeing is the Wolf-drive, like betting all on one card. Is there a scenario we can somehow vote that would be Wolf-proof under these circumstances? I am trying to think.

Not anymore, after Lommy's vote. We can only hope sally's a wolf, or it's game over.

Pitchwife · 04-25-2021, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I mean, you're literally asking for it, so yes, fine, I'm the seer. Of all games to be busy at the wrong times.

Boro and Morsul are innocent. Sadly that's all I know of use right now.

Night one: Boro (because my prince!)
Night two: Morsul
Night three: Lottie (again, sorry!)

Like I said, the dead are fallible.

OK, I'm sorry to have drawn you out, but like I said... 'Vote for literally anybody else', you said. There's only one role who can make that call.

But that means we've got two known innocents, even if the wolves kill you toNight. And if they don't, hoping to discredit you... we've seen that play out, haven't we, Morsul?

04-25-2021, 03:36 PM	#1
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I mean, you're literally asking for it, so yes, fine, I'm the seer. Of all games to be busy at the wrong times. Boro and Morsul are innocent. Sadly that's all I know of use right now. Night one: Boro (because my prince!) Night two: Morsul Night three: Lottie (again, sorry!) Like I said, the dead are fallible. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

04-25-2021, 03:37 PM	#2
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Oh. My. God. Okay I am not voting until I have processed data. Sorry, a more coherent post coming up soon. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

04-25-2021, 03:38 PM	#3
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	What in the name of all. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

04-25-2021, 03:39 PM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	And here I was just trying to use reason to figure out some Wolfproof way to vote. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

04-25-2021, 03:53 PM	#5
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, so back to the drawing board. We have a Ghost thing pointing at one of Morsul, Pitch and Sally. Then we have Sally claiming to be the Seer and saying that Boro and Morsul is innocent. So this would leave Pitch guilty by elimination, or else there is something completely messed up. Or sally is simply lying (and in a really bizarre way given that Morsul just voted her). To be honest that would be the easiest solution for this mess. EDIT: x-ed with a few __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

04-25-2021, 03:41 PM	#6
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	This ridiculous by play between sally and Pitch is making me think there is more than one wolf in that little gang, because if sally is the Seer I'll eat my hat. Form's death and Lottie's death point to her, GhostForm was happy with Morsul's vote and we know the Dead Thread have some additional information even if it isn't totally concrete. So I'll put my money where my mouth is and hope no one is misled by what is looking like one orchestrated as heck charade between sally and Pitch. ++sally __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.” Last edited by Kath; 04-25-2021 at 03:41 PM. Reason: Fixed voting

04-25-2021, 03:42 PM	#7
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Kath if you really are an innocent who thinks Sally and Pitch are having a charade, why don't you vote Pitch who certainly isn't the seer?????? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

04-25-2021, 03:43 PM	#8
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	What the fork, Kath?! __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

04-25-2021, 04:03 PM	#9
Soriman the Whide Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 88	All of this unfolding is very confusing, it's a bombshell, perhaps the timing is not coincidence making me more suspicious of Pitch and Sally. Not sure where to vote want to see what Thinlómien says. Edit: He already spoke and i missed the post sorry! __________________ "And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite... ". The Silmarillion - Ainulindalë Last edited by Soriman the Whide; 04-25-2021 at 04:08 PM.

04-25-2021, 03:44 PM	#10
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Ah and cross posted with exactly that. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

04-25-2021, 03:46 PM	#11
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Two votes for me means we have to be very careful now, and I think a bit swift as well. I think our only hope is if Kath is a wolf and we all vote her before I get to four? Am I wrong? Obviously I won't be leaving my computer again. Sweet magical cupcakes. x'd with Lommy, and exactly __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

04-25-2021, 03:50 PM	#12
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Lommy, if you're an innocent and not a wolf, please go with your good sense here. Your own analysis of Lottie showed you a Pitch/sally/Morsul choice and GhostForm confirmed we were on the right lines. You were seconds off voting sally anyway, and only then did this little orchestration occur. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

04-25-2021, 03:57 PM	#13
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	So I’m only able to read not able to share more my thoughts and reaction. But I’m going with what I said earlier, the Ghost has given a list of at least 1 wolf. This is orchestrated by wolves. ++sally Forgive me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty confident I’m not. __________________ Fenris Penguin

04-25-2021, 03:56 PM	#14
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Idk. I wouldn't put it past wolf!Sally to make a false seer reveal. Then again, I have been waiting for the seer to reveal toDay. I mean, even if they're so unlucky all their dream subjects are dead, they could still give us one known innocent (themselves), and if the game continues, another known role toMorrow via the ghost. Surely that's what any sensible seer would do at this point when we have to lynch a wolf or die? If nothing else then at least to stop a fake reveal? And no one has come forward except Sally. That makes me think she might be the real deal. Anyway, if someone else than Sally is the seer, they should spill the beans now. Because if we trust Sally and she's not the seer, we're doomed. Knowing whether she's bluffing or not is a question between life and death for the village toDay. (Also, so much for going to sleep early today...) edit: xed with almost everyone __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

04-25-2021, 04:00 PM	#22
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Et tu, Boro? __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

04-25-2021, 04:16 PM	#24
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I realize this would be the perfect time for a song parody, but I'm afraid I haven't the time. Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your cow! __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

04-25-2021, 04:21 PM	#25
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I don't even know who to vote for posterity.... Whether it's Kath or Pitch, well done to you and your packmates. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

04-25-2021, 04:28 PM	#27
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	I’m just glad I didn’t vote earlier. Although being away on this day was a pain. Perhaps the chaos sally put us through is would have been avoided. Glares at Pitch too Understand sally, I still hold you in the highest respect and I do not envy the headaches you will feel when you wake up. But you can’t deny you have tried to give us a bunch of headaches with your stunt. __________________ Fenris Penguin

04-25-2021, 03:45 PM	#28
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	If Sally is the seer (more about that in a sec) and neither of Morsul and Kath is a wolf we're dead for certain. Ergo better hope one of the three is a wolf at least. edit: xed with Sally and Kath __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

04-25-2021, 04:08 PM	#30
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, I will actually say what I was trying to reason for like an hour before this all mess started to happen. Basically it comes down to several main points. One is whether the Wolves came to this Day with a strong pull or whether they are just happy to bus one of them. That ties in with whether Morsul is innocent or not and if he is guilty, then whether sally is innocent or not. If Morsul is evil and sally is not, he started a bandwagon, the WWs hoping we follow, if we do, case closed. If they are both evil (and ergo now under the new events, sally is faking), he bussed her (or all the WWs did). If Morsul is innocent and sally is guilty, it's fairly straightforward. If Morsul is innocent and sally is innocent, ergo the Seer after her proclamation, then this is just a mess. So let me get this right, it's kinda whether what we are seeing now is just sally-wolf trying to save herself, or whether the bandwagon we are seeing is the Wolf-drive, like betting all on one card. Is there a scenario we can somehow vote that would be Wolf-proof under these circumstances? I am trying to think. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories