TIG CXVII: GAME Thread:

[Pitchwife]

OK, sally, if I understand you right then you, Boro and Morsul are all innocent, as well as myself (which I knew already). Of course I'd be happy to believe that.

But then what of the message of the Dead that seems to say one of you, Morsul and me is a wolf? Do the Dead lie?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Can I be honest I don’t care if we win or lose. This ghost thing is fun. Form is just top notch on the quotes

Well I care! So stop voting for me! I do love the quotes though. This is indeed phenomenal.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Also if Lommy en't innocent she's faking it well enough for an Oscar.

Which she's done before, so I'm not surprised.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

First off: feeling really bad about the Huin lynch, on multiple levels. I can't believe I noticed Form's death made him more likely innocent and ignored that I find that every time I ignore reason in favour of gut-feeling OR ignore gut-feeling in favour of reason I pick the wrong thing to follow. I would say, I'm sorry Huin, but since this worked in your favour last time (me ignoring your wolvish vibes because I had no actual proof you were a wolf, and you were), let's call it... even?

Yeah, why is that? Perhaps because you're a furry person? My gut is only supported by Lommy's readiness to go along with lynches she herself has disagreed with if they suit her.

Also Morsul!!!! Why are you voting so early!! When you just said yourself we have to think carefully toDay??? As far as I see, you haven't really spent much time toDay analysing anybody or wondering why Lottie was killed. You just want us all to follow your gut? Geez, I don't like this. Okay, possibly a wolf would not be so brazen but you're narrowing our options on a whim and I don't like that. Or maybe Sally looks like a convenient target others might get behind because she's hardly been here but she's been suspected? Red flags. (I still don't have much of an opinion on Sally, since she hasn't been around. But I see she has a posted toDay already. Good.)

I don't know. I'm immediately suspicious of anyone who's willing to dig a trench and go hard from the beginning of the Day - that's what someone who knows who are on their side and who aren't would do. As has been pointed out, toDay is likely crucial. Therefore the wolves need to direct the village to lynch one of their own. They can go hard. They probably decided last Night who they're gunning for toDay. The rest of us can't afford tunnel vision like that, we have to actually think.

I agree with her reasoning regarding Morsul, but again, I think he's just a misguided innocent. I think Lommy is jumping too hard to my defense, which is in itself another bit of suspicion.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Can someone explain to me that since when is one of Morsul, Sally and Pitch a werewolf?

And since this seems to come from Form's posts, how would the dead know? Since we don't have a dead seer? I doubt G55 would straight up tell them who the wolves are.

Either I'm slow or there's something straight up shady going on with Boro and Morsul.

Again making a good point, but it doesn't make me trust her any more.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

That's only fair. But I do answer with, you are also a steersman. Steering is in my nature just as much as it is in yours. I know where I'm steering, sometimes it is not straight, sometimes there are rapids ahead, and therefor it's better to take the longer path. Sometimes you must brave the rapids and risk losing folk with a true-heart in them. One thing I'm certain of, is I do not wish to be like my namesake and go straight over the falls of Rauros.

I agree there is more to do today than interpreting Form's messages and I like that there will be other conversations. For toDay, Legate perhaps it is a comfort to you that my steering is done. As Boromir says to Aragorn after Moria, "Lead on!" My flaw, I must often be reminded that 2 steersman, both with a good and loyal heart can pull in opposite directions. So my question to you, steersman, where are you going and what is your flaw?

I could wax poetic about my suspicions of Legate, but honestly, Boro encapsulates it well here.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

OK, sally, if I understand you right then you, Boro and Morsul are all innocent, as well as myself (which I knew already). Of course I'd be happy to believe that.

But then what of the message of the Dead that seems to say one of you, Morsul and me is a wolf? Do the Dead lie?

No, but they are fallible. Remember, our seer is still among us somewhere, so the dead have nothing to go on but their opinions.


x'd since my last, and breaking for lunch

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Back, writing as I go...

Originally Posted by Kath

GhostForm's post in #276 ... I'm struggling. Is it that on Day 1 everyone had a choice, and then the reference to the little gardener - could that be Greenie. A Little Green. So then lots and none at all - lots of people voted for her but none at all were wolves? We already know Hui and Lottie, who voted Greenie, are innocent, so does that speak in Legate's favour possibly?

I thought gardener referred to Lottie with her gardening, but I have zero idea what the rest of the post is supposed to mean.

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Boro my only concern is FormerForm’s confirmation comes after your post and mine.

The question is if it’s confirming your interpretation or my vote.

That is exactly what I have been wondering about from the morning. I think we have one Ghost and a hundred interpreters, and everybody seems to be operating with the assumption that what they said is correct.

Originally Posted by Soriman the Whide

Alright my vote for Lottie I think proves my innocence, I know it was a stange thing to switch my vote to Lottie over Huin. I thought that Huin was likely a wolf and if he was a wolf then lottie must be one too (sorry lottie my bad) and I felt like Huin was a stronger player to have as an ally if I was wrong.

WHAT? That does not make any sense whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

I’m known for hard to follow logic but this defense is far beyond me.

Word.

Soriman, are you aware that by that logic, your vote for person A is completely dependent on the fact that person B is a Wolf - something you would not know? (And they were not.) But most of all, it say nothing whatsoever about your innocence or guilt.

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

But the main point is they agreed without voting. I think we have a wolf trying to figure out what to do. Vote for their packmate or wait for a better bandwagon.

Hm, but so by your logic, if the Wolves agreed what to do, they would have a bandwagon ready. Which is exactly what you are doing.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Actually, as per Form's message we don't know whether there were one or more werewolves among the "five you have measured", do we?

Originally Posted by Form

Originally Posted by The Council of Elrond
'We know not for certain,' answered Elrond sadly.

Okay, so this at least may be one clear clarification for the whole Day. But so that would mean at least somebody in "the five". But I would still like to make it clear, the five are the people who got votes minus Greenie, or those who did not get vote, who were five? Form confirmed several times Boro but was it specifically about this, or was it that he was roughly correct in terms of the whole posts he spoke? I would just like to have one clear statement on this because that may be relevant not only toDay, but for the future. And I don't think it has been said 100% clearly.

EDIT: x-ed with some

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Shadow of the Past

Do you really know it all, or are you just guessing still?

Originally Posted by Shadow of the Past

I may have started with guesses about Gollum, but I am not guessing now. I know.

Ghost

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

So I take this as a confirmation of the confirmation of what was said. Okay, good to have this out of the way.

EDIT: x-ed with Morsul

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Hm, but so by your logic, if the Wolves agreed what to do, they would have a bandwagon ready. Which is exactly what you are doing.

The second point is arguable but I’ll cede it in the sense that I stand by my vote and think it’s right and therefore do hope others join me.

The first half is not correct(as I understand) They don’t have a bandwagon ready in the sense they have a name (if that’s what you mean) but that they’re waiting for someone to vote the wrong way and jump on it. Whether or not they discussed this I couldn’t say but I think it’s a fairly obvious strategy.

[Morsul the Dark]

I think FormerForm(seriously guys it’s right there GhostForm is ok but FormerForm is just chef’s kiss.) i think it’s been confirmed we’re on the right track.

Xed with Legate
PS #FormerFormForFormalFormedFormations

[Soriman the Whide]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Soriman, are you aware that by that logic, your vote for person A is completely dependent on the fact that person B is a Wolf - something you would not know? (And they were not.)

Yes my vote was dependant on trusting in Huin being a wolf I picked my second highest candidate due to being influenced and thinking Huin was good at the game and it would be a shame to lose him if I was wrong about him.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

But most of all, it say nothing whatsoever about your innocence or guilt.

Sorry; Noted.