Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, game thread

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Kath

Except that Lhuna, one of the key people involved in that discussion has just turned out to be a wolf. So if you're thinking Inzil could be a wolf trying to lure people out, and then there's Lhuna who was a wolf, then that discussion is absolutely a source of suspicion.

That is fair. We have evidence that a known wolf did engage in this discussion. On the other hand, would they all want to associate themselves with each other and that discussion? But point taken.

[Boromir88]

A Kath-alysis

Day 1

Big contribution to the day was arguing that the proposed vote for the QT, was not Legate's idea, but G55's. Legate added to it, but she was the first to point out it originated from G55. Questions Huey about his suspicions of Mac. Suggests Mac and Pitch are the next big dust up brewing. (Turned out to be G55 and Rikae).

Votes G55. I can't see anything suspicious with Kath's Day 1 actions...other than she did vote on Day 1. She seemed primarily focused on LGP that dominated the earlier half. Settled on G55 for trying to pass the responsibility of the proposed voting onto Legate.

Day 2

Analyzes the Day 1 vote. Most suspicious vote she seemed to be saying came from Eonwe's throwaway to Urwen. Primary contribution I would say is she doesn't follow along with those saying Rikae's death framed them. Thinks more likely wolves were gifted-hunting.

Votes Inzil for pressing on about Kit being a ranger. Day 2 was between Mac and Huey, but Inzil vote looks reasoned.

Day 3

Defends why she voted for Inzil and Lhuna was her 2nd choice. Reasons being how Kit appeared to be pressed too much into revealing by Inzil and Lhuna. Votes Inzil again.

Her focus this day is on those who were pressing Kit on Day 2. Those were 2 quite lengthy posts.

Day 4

Seems to disapprove of all the revealing going on from the first 3 days. Her first post of the day focused on sally's reveal and how everyone reacted. Questions me if I believed sally's reveal. Proposes to QT to vote either Inzil or Lhuna. Looks through Lhuna's post, decides to vote Lhuna. Puts Lhuna up to 5, Eonwe 3.

Vote looks solid. If Kath was a wolf, she pretty much stabbed Lhuna in the back and turned the knife.

I haven't looked at her posts yet today. Want to try to get to a few other people...

Overall impression is feeling innocent. She focuses on one path each day, doesn't get sidetracked by all the other stuff going on. A decisive vote to lynch Lhuna when a wolf still could have saved her.

I also really just enjoy her style of questioning. It's direct and straight forward. No veiled suspicions or tricks. A simple "Did you believe sally's reveal or not?" "What did you mean with the Legate-G55-Pitch kerfuffle from Day 1?" She's probing for information, but they're not "gotcha" questions, I don't feel like I'm walking into a trap with her questions. So yeah, not sure, but feel good.

[Boromir88]

Well, I was going to do a Ka-alysis, but I see I've cross posted with some current action regarding THE Ka and Shasta so I will read that now.

[Thinlómien]

Boro's analysis of Kath makes her look quite good, but I have to disagree about the Lhuna vote. Even if Kath had voted Eönwë, Lhuna would still have been on the lead because she reached 4 votes first. There would have still needed to be more subsequent votes for Eönwë than for Lhuna to save her, and that's why I don't think Kath's vote was that pivotal. Sure, she was in a place to give Lhuna a fighting chance. But I don't think she was in a place to save her. I can see a packmate not considering it worth it.

(Given that I'm quite suspicious of Eönwë, I can't help but to think what if the two bandwagons actually formed between two wolves yesterDay and they weren't (in a position to be) decisive enough to try to turn the tide. In that case no one's Lhuna-vote makes much difference except maybe the very first ones. But yeah this is a whole another kettle of fish again.)


PS.

Originally Posted by Shasta

I feel like I'm almost certainly going to vote for Ka now, but I also kinda want to hold my vote until the end on general principle.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by thinlómien

ps.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Nogrod]

The Quarantine Thread has given its vote.


++ Rune Son of Bjarne (Son of Marx)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

That is... not where I expected them to vote, given the day's discussion. Hmm.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

That is... not where I expected them to vote, given the day's discussion. Hmm.

Agreed. Wonder how they got there.

[Brinniel]

Interesting.

I saw logic in Lommy's reasoning that Rune could be innocent with the theory that Legate "dreamed" him and then Lhuna trying to disregard that possibility. However I don't think Rune's behavior in itself has been necessarily innocent. Considering he hasn't been heavily discussed here toDay, I wonder if the QT is reading into something we're not seeing.

I'm not sure if I'm ready to follow the QT vote toDay, but I definitely think he's worth taking another look at.

[Boromir88]

I'm anxious to see who the QT gives us to think about today. Does anyone have a tally of our proposed votes for the QT?

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Boro's analysis of Kath makes her look quite good, but I have to disagree about the Lhuna vote. Even if Kath had voted Eönwë, Lhuna would still have been on the lead because she reached 4 votes first. There would have still needed to be more subsequent votes for Eönwë than for Lhuna to save her, and that's why I don't think Kath's vote was that pivotal. Sure, she was in a place to give Lhuna a fighting chance. But I don't think she was in a place to save her. I can see a packmate not considering it worth it.

Well, Kath couldn't have known what I was going to do, but I was holding onto my vote, because there were a few (myself included) who had votes and didn't want to see lynched. Ok, maybe not the most pivotal/decisive vote, but I was waiting around to see who people were going to vote for and whether they were going with the QT or not. Definitely made my vote much easier than previous days, because I did view it as solidifying Lhuna's lynch, when there was still an opportunity to save her.