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Old 12-18-2014, 09:07 AM   #1
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If you're thinking Nimrodel would claim to be an ordo, there is no reason for her to do that. All the wolf would need to do in that case is claim to be Nimrodel, and the two ordos would be lynched toDay and toMorrow, allowing the wolf to win the game.
That's some really weak logic here. If a wolf fake-reveals, the true Nimrodel would reveal. We Lynch one a night and win.

This is some furry logic you are using here
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:14 AM   #2
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That's some really weak logic here. If a wolf fake-reveals, the true Nimrodel would reveal. We Lynch one a night and win.

This is some furry logic you are using here
Um, I'm discussing your scenario where Nimrodel has, for some strange reason, already claimed to be an ordo.
If a wolf then fake-reveals, we would lynch the two claiming to be ordos, and the wolf would win.

Therefore Nimrodel would absolutely not claim to be an ordo. It would be suicide and cause the game to be lost.

Talk about furry logic.

Kit and I have both claimed to be ordos. Either we are honest, or we are wolves. Therefore, Nimrodel is Lottie.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:24 AM   #3
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But maybe... nah.

Just please explain why you think Nimrodel would claim to be an ordo at this point.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:42 AM   #4
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Just please explain why you think Nimrodel would claim to be an ordo at this point.
Because there may be a cursed who turned into a wolf. I actually am with you in thinking that the dreams were of Ordos (but then I would, knowing my role). However Nimrodel may disagree and be bidding her time.

Why are you so eager on a reveal? I wonder...
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:54 AM   #5
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Because there may be a cursed who turned into a wolf. I actually am with you in thinking that the dreams were of Ordos (but then I would, knowing my role). However Nimrodel may disagree and be bidding her time.
That's what I didn't want to say. Now we've pretty much spelled out what a Kitanna- or Lottie-wolf would need to do to win.
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Why are you so eager on a reveal? I wonder...
I don't know, why do you think I am?
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:25 AM   #6
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So the true Nimrodel couldn't just say "hey, I lied, I'm not an ordo"?!

Sure, that might get her lynched, but then we'd know the truth and Lynch the fake Nimrodel the next Day. Which would be a wolf because no one else has an incentive to lie.

We don't know much about the abilities of this player. For example, if they are doing the same math you are (one of you three is a wolf) then as long as we don't kill THEM today, we have a chance of winning tonight with a hunter kill.

I really think you are trying to defend a VERY weak position
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:41 AM   #7
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So the true Nimrodel couldn't just say "hey, I lied, I'm not an ordo"?!

Sure, that might get her lynched, but then we'd know the truth and Lynch the fake Nimrodel the next Day. Which would be a wolf because no one else has an incentive to lie.

We don't know much about the abilities of this player. For example, if they are doing the same math you are (one of you three is a wolf) then as long as we don't kill THEM today, we have a chance of winning tonight with a hunter kill.

I really think you are trying to defend a VERY weak position
Actually, come to think of it, let's see what Lottie says before we discuss this further. We could be doing more harm than good.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:48 AM   #8
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Although I don't think we're thinking the same thing here. And this bugs me:

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We don't know much about the abilities of this player. For example, if they are doing the same math you are (one of you three is a wolf) then as long as we don't kill THEM today, we have a chance of winning tonight with a hunter kill.
According to that math (which is yours, not mine), such a hunter kill wouldn't be needed. We would win toDay or toMorrow regardless, whether the wolf pretends to be Nimrodel or an ordo.

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Old 12-18-2014, 09:51 AM   #9
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Kit and I have both claimed to be ordos. Either we are honest, or we are wolves. Therefore, Nimrodel is Lottie.
That's your math right there. One of you three is a wolf. I'm thinking you, of course
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That's your math right there. One of you three is a wolf. I'm thinking you, of course
No, it's each of us is either honest or a wolf. We could both be honest, which makes you or Copper a wolf.

Not you, probably - a wolf would have thought things through more.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:59 AM   #11
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No, it's each of us is either honest or a wolf. We could both be honest, which makes you or Copper a wolf.

Not you, probably - a wolf would have thought things through more.
Well, we've beaten this house to the ground, but I'll have to agree to disagree here. I don't think we can be sure Nimrodel would reveal today.
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Well, we've beaten this house to the ground, but I'll have to agree to disagree here. I don't think we can be sure Nimrodel would reveal today.
Maybe she won't. If it seems like a good idea to you, maybe it does to her as well.
She does have more insight into the possible-cursed situation than either of us does, at any rate. Probably. I hope.
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Actually I feel pretty stupid now. Yes, of course Nimrodel might have her reasons for wanting to claim she's an ordo.

I'm glad I didn't immediately vote for Kitanna, as was my first instinct.

If Nimrodel doesn't reveal toDay, Farael & Copper, please vote for ME. Least I can do is help Nimrodel survive the day without revealing, if that's her wish (since I can't help the village with brainpower ).
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