T-I-G CVIII: Wolves of the Galadhrim (Game Thread)

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Farael

In the OR again, but I just wanted to check in. The idea that there may or may not be a cursed around is quite distressing. If we knew for sure, we could make far better plans!

I also wish I knew what Nimrodel's goals are, I'm still not convicted she's wholly on our side. But having her reveal how wouldn't necessarily help.

We know Lottie is Nimrodel, so I think hearing from her exactly what she does can only help.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Rikae

We know Lottie is Nimrodel, so I think hearing from her exactly what she does can only help.

We do? I absolutely missed that :s

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Farael

We do? I absolutely missed that :s

By process of elimination.
It isn't you or Copper, because Sally dreamed of you.
It isn't me, because if it was, I would tell you.
It isn't Kitanna because she claims to be an ordo as well.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Rikae

We know Lottie is Nimrodel, so I think hearing from her exactly what she does can only help.

My highlight

And I'd add the quote of Rikae saying neither her or Kit can be Nimrodel because they both claim to be Ordos, but I Can't because I'm on my phone.

Given that Lottie hasn't even spoken yet, and that this is werewolf, with lies galore, I would be more than a little unwilling to say we KNOW anything here. We know what the Seer has dreamed, and I'm willing to give Copper a pass based on that, but that leaves us with one of you three being a wolf.

[Rikae]

Yes, we know.

You (or Copper), however, could be a wolf. Nerwen did say that a cursed would have shown up as an ordo on night 3, meaning, if we have a cursed, it could be anyone (except Lottie).

If you're thinking Nimrodel would claim to be an ordo, there is no reason for her to do that. All the wolf would need to do in that case is claim to be Nimrodel, and the two ordos would be lynched toDay and toMorrow, allowing the wolf to win the game.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Rikae

If you're thinking Nimrodel would claim to be an ordo, there is no reason for her to do that. All the wolf would need to do in that case is claim to be Nimrodel, and the two ordos would be lynched toDay and toMorrow, allowing the wolf to win the game.

That's some really weak logic here. If a wolf fake-reveals, the true Nimrodel would reveal. We Lynch one a night and win.

This is some furry logic you are using here

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Farael

That's some really weak logic here. If a wolf fake-reveals, the true Nimrodel would reveal. We Lynch one a night and win.

This is some furry logic you are using here

Um, I'm discussing your scenario where Nimrodel has, for some strange reason, already claimed to be an ordo.
If a wolf then fake-reveals, we would lynch the two claiming to be ordos, and the wolf would win.

Therefore Nimrodel would absolutely not claim to be an ordo. It would be suicide and cause the game to be lost.

Talk about furry logic.

Kit and I have both claimed to be ordos. Either we are honest, or we are wolves. Therefore, Nimrodel is Lottie.

[Rikae]

But maybe... nah.

Just please explain why you think Nimrodel would claim to be an ordo at this point.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Just please explain why you think Nimrodel would claim to be an ordo at this point.

Because there may be a cursed who turned into a wolf. I actually am with you in thinking that the dreams were of Ordos (but then I would, knowing my role). However Nimrodel may disagree and be bidding her time.

Why are you so eager on a reveal? I wonder...

[Farael]

So the true Nimrodel couldn't just say "hey, I lied, I'm not an ordo"?!

Sure, that might get her lynched, but then we'd know the truth and Lynch the fake Nimrodel the next Day. Which would be a wolf because no one else has an incentive to lie.

We don't know much about the abilities of this player. For example, if they are doing the same math you are (one of you three is a wolf) then as long as we don't kill THEM today, we have a chance of winning tonight with a hunter kill.

I really think you are trying to defend a VERY weak position

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Farael

So the true Nimrodel couldn't just say "hey, I lied, I'm not an ordo"?!

Sure, that might get her lynched, but then we'd know the truth and Lynch the fake Nimrodel the next Day. Which would be a wolf because no one else has an incentive to lie.

We don't know much about the abilities of this player. For example, if they are doing the same math you are (one of you three is a wolf) then as long as we don't kill THEM today, we have a chance of winning tonight with a hunter kill.

I really think you are trying to defend a VERY weak position

Actually, come to think of it, let's see what Lottie says before we discuss this further. We could be doing more harm than good.

[Rikae]

Although I don't think we're thinking the same thing here. And this bugs me:

Originally Posted by Farael

We don't know much about the abilities of this player. For example, if they are doing the same math you are (one of you three is a wolf) then as long as we don't kill THEM today, we have a chance of winning tonight with a hunter kill.

According to that math (which is yours, not mine), such a hunter kill wouldn't be needed. We would win toDay or toMorrow regardless, whether the wolf pretends to be Nimrodel or an ordo.

Edit: X'd

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Kit and I have both claimed to be ordos. Either we are honest, or we are wolves. Therefore, Nimrodel is Lottie.

That's your math right there. One of you three is a wolf. I'm thinking you, of course

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Farael

That's your math right there. One of you three is a wolf. I'm thinking you, of course

No, it's each of us is either honest or a wolf. We could both be honest, which makes you or Copper a wolf.

Not you, probably - a wolf would have thought things through more.