Elves and Ringwraiths

[cellurdur]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

cellurdur, what is your source for all this? "Strength" can mean a lot of things- certainly Elves are *tougher* than Men- but the counter-examples you and arathorn mention suggest you're both thinking largely in terms of brute force.

Do I really just mention brute force? I thought I mentioned the inability of Men to use what we would call magic. I talk about how Numenoreans were blessed and had the gifts humans before they came into contact with Melkor. The telepathy the Numenoreans have is certainly 'magical' to us.

I talk about a variety of issues and Tolkien does tend to give us ranking charts and it appears you have missed it. Or do you disagree that Luthien is the fairest of all elves? Daeron the best out of all singers or Earendil the best out of all sailors? Maybe Feanor was the not the finest or all craftsmen after all?

What exactly do you want me to provide a source for?