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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Henneth Annûn, Ithilien
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Gorthaur, I do not recall Lúthien ever being mentioned as the prime Elf. I will cite several texts that seem to me to clearly say that Fëanor is above all others the foremost of all the Children of Iluvatar.
"Fëanor was made the mightiest in all parts of body and mind... of all the Children of Iluvatar" [Sil, p. 112] "his likeness has never again appeared in Arda... Thus ended the mightiest of the Noldor" [p. 125] "he was mighty in body and in all the skills of the body, and supreme among the Eldar in eagerness and strength and subtlety of mind" [Morgoth's Ring, p. 236] "This child is the greatest in gifts that hath arisen or shall arise among the Eldar." [p. 240] "Aulë nameth Fëanor the greatest of the Eldar, and in potency that is true." [p. 247] He was skillful, cunning, and astute in mind, and his potency is not matched by any of the Eldar according to the Valar. It was mentioned that it was not known of what substance the Silmarils were made of. It would be interesting that this creation even baffled the Valar who had a hand in the building up of Arda. Quote:
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I do agree with you about the Witch-King, for it is said that while he was searching for Gollum and the Shire, "the power of the White Ring [Nenya] he [Witch-king] would not defy, nor yet enter into Lórien." [Unfinished Tales, p. 354] Also in this same chapter Gandalf believed Sauron could overthrow Lórien and Rivendell, "And those places might have fallen, I think, if Sauron had thrown all his power against them first" [p. 345] Quote:
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"There was none to see... what would they say in song? Those that looked up from afar thought that the mountain was crowned with storm. Thunder they heard, and lightning, they said, smote upon Celebdil, and leaped back broken into tongues of fire." [The Two Towers, p. 125] Quote:
Also read Zigûr's post because the approach between the two Lord's would be different. Sauron's power was mostly poured into the Ring which is why it could be his undoing if destroyed. Morgoth poured his strength into various things and therefore in his servants you had much to worry about. As far as I know, Melkor was more likely to avoid any physical confrontation anyway. After he disposed of Fingolfin he never left his chambers again until he was taken by force. Sauron did go out several times to meet his enemies and the one where he did the most damage was in his deception of Númenor and its downfall when he went there as a voluntary prisoner. In this case he used deception because he knew his servants, none of them, could stand up to the Númenóreans.
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