Seven Stars, Seven Stones and One White Tree...

[Ardent]

Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

From the earliest sketch of the Moria gate, the Stars of Durin were simply clustered regularly around the perimeter of the crown, not in the form of any constellation (although I suppose if one squints just right they might be the Pleiades)

The arrangement of the stars on Aragorn's flag does not take the shape of the Plough/Sickle either. Also I recall that it says somewhere that the dwarves tell different and strange tales about their origins, so maybe the had a different tale about the same constellation. But I think I'm reaching somewhat.

Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

Certainly not at that time: Arnor wouldn't come into being for over 2000 years when the Gate was made!

(Even then, Arnor's southern border at its greatest extent was the Greyflood, so it wouldn't have included Hollin.)

Oh well, it seemed like a neat connection for a moment there.