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Old 01-22-2013, 09:49 AM   #1
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So it begins. I have accepted this "damned if you do, damned if you don't" portion of the game. Nobody likes to be voted for on the first day and as much as I would love to abstain, that would draw criticisms upon oneself.
I know, I know, people who never vote on Day One are a disgrace, aren't we- er, I mean they?

But seriously- Gil, at the point when three people each have one vote, you're certainly not limited to them only, and when you claim you are, it looks like opportunism followed by hand washing.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:11 AM   #2
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I know, I know, people who never vote on Day One are a disgrace, aren't we- er, I mean they?

But seriously- Gil, at the point when three people each have one vote, you're certainly not limited to them only, and when you claim you are, it looks like opportunism followed by hand washing.
Here is how I look at it, Inz threw out a name but was non-commited on it, and the troll that my gut tells me to vote for will throw another name, making it 6 individual names. I am positive more names will get thrown out there and that is the thing. As you said, this is a village of 18 with another 13 possible votes. Day one is for testing the waters, and you being so defensive and afraid that the two votes for you will spell your end reveals something. Are you hiding something Ner? The night is still young and me tipping my hand to you will determine your behaviour now.

The uncertainty will be the death of me, plus I am too nice. The Wizers want confusion and for as many names thrown out to cause discord.

Only one to trust is yourself, and it might be my past experience on day 1 lynchings, but it is too early to call the game Ner, unless you are a panicing Wizer.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:23 AM   #3
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Day one is for testing the waters, and you being so defensive and afraid that the two votes for you will spell your end reveals something.
It possibly would had I in fact been defensive or expressed such a fear. But as anyone can see I didn't... nice try, Gil.

What I did say was that your vote, or rather the reason you give for it, looks bad. That is still my opinion, and your posting since hasn't exactly helped.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:32 AM   #4
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Here is how I look at it, Inz threw out a name but was non-commited on it, and the troll that my gut tells me to vote for will throw another name, making it 6 individual names. I am positive more names will get thrown out there and that is the thing. As you said, this is a village of 18 with another 13 possible votes. Day one is for testing the waters, and you being so defensive and afraid that the two votes for you will spell your end reveals something.
If only three out of 19 have been voted and there are 15 votes to go saying that you need to keep sure the votes are not spread too wide isn't the most reasonable cause for a vote.

Then again, bringing on some pressure by exactly giving a second vote to someone that early could be reasonable tactics to see whether the dog barks the stick hits...
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:02 AM   #6
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Here is how I look at it, Inz threw out a name but was non-commited on it, and the troll that my gut tells me to vote for will throw another name, making it 6 individual names. I am positive more names will get thrown out there and that is the thing. As you said, this is a village of 18 with another 13 possible votes. Day one is for testing the waters, and you being so defensive and afraid that the two votes for you will spell your end reveals something. Are you hiding something Ner? The night is still young and me tipping my hand to you will determine your behaviour now.
I think you're looking more defensive at the moment than Nerwen. Having said that, I'd say you're also the one that many seem to want to jump after and pile on right now...hence the defensiveness.

Partially stirred by you though, with how you're the typical red-shirt, and then assuming everything you say is now getting turned against to. I honestly laughed at your redshirt comment for nostalgia reasons. Maybe I just think myself more ancient than the most, but I would guess I'm one of the few who would remember your 'style'...it's been a long time for sure. It's just making you look not only defensive but paranoid.

Currently, I'm thinking you've been acting a very clumsy troll and it's been such a long time since you've graced us with your WW-presense, I'm interpretting some of this piling on against you as wizards licking their chops at the offerend redshirt. However, I think you're looking in the wrong place with Nerwen (ie you can interpret this as if it comes between voting you or Nerwen, I will vote you).
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:14 AM   #7
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I think you're looking more defensive at the moment than Nerwen. Having said that, I'd say you're also the one that many seem to want to jump after and pile on right now...hence the defensiveness.
He started that immediately, though- "so it begins", etc. And of course, even before he voted, there was the "red-shirt" routine. I just feel the martyrdom is being a bit overplayed.
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I think you're looking more defensive at the moment than Nerwen. Having said that, I'd say you're also the one that many seem to want to jump after and pile on right now...hence the defensiveness.

Partially stirred by you though, with how you're the typical red-shirt, and then assuming everything you say is now getting turned against to. I honestly laughed at your redshirt comment for nostalgia reasons. Maybe I just think myself more ancient than the most, but I would guess I'm one of the few who would remember your 'style'...it's been a long time for sure. It's just making you look not only defensive but paranoid.

Currently, I'm thinking you've been acting a very clumsy troll and it's been such a long time since you've graced us with your WW-presense, I'm interpretting some of this piling on against you as wizards licking their chops at the offerend redshirt. However, I think you're looking in the wrong place with Nerwen (ie you can interpret this as if it comes between voting you or Nerwen, I will vote you).
With my time very limited during the final hours (I am typing this between classes) I wanted to stimulate the voting by trying a tactic, and Ner being the most vocal of the votee's I wanted to flesh out her defense. It is hard for me and frustrating to explain then get asked to explain that and so forth. Do I think Ner is going to get lynched? Probably not. With everyone piling on me, I need to point out Bor's comment. My gameplay is insanity. I stir the pot to get things going that typically runs my own downfall, but allows me to judge others. I will attempt to get on moments before the deadline to see the outcome. It has been a long time since I have done this game and by trying to stir the pot I have given everyone an easy vote for day 1. So vote Gil for being Gil, or surprise me and humour my insanity.

I hope I don't get asked to explain this again, I really don't know what to say. Maybe it is my thought process or how I talk but it always turns against me.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:28 PM   #9
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First round of impressions, I'll be around now for about an hour and then will go to a dance class that ends so close to the deadline I'd rather cast my vote before that.

Things That Have Happened:
Nerwen vs Gil-galad. I'm not inclined to think either of them Wizers based on this dispute. Ner jumps, but reasonably, not only because of a vote for her but because of a very strangely cast vote. And despite saying that, as well as the fact that some of Gil's explanations do indeed seem forged (coming way after the vote and slowly developing more and more elaborate), the paranoia seems more like something a typical first-day-lynch innocent would be like, rather than a Wizard. It is creating discussion and pulling attention towards him. For that, and for the sake of him, after all, being a typical first-day lynch, I'd be willing to give him a pass for the day.

Cop and his vote for Boro seems worse to me than either of the two above. He has to vote early, which is understandable, but basing a vote on two IC posts and saying it's not random feels weird. Boro can be a very strong player, and in case he's innocent getting rid of him early in the game when he hasn't had time to contribute much would seem like a reasonable thing for a Wizard to do. Then again, it is hardly starting a bandwagon, because of the total lack of evidence. But he could've been trusting that people (like Gil) would rather vote for someone who already has a vote, than someone who doesn't?

These are the first two things to come in mind. Will keep reading.
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