Tapestry of Dreams, Part 2 Discussion - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

littlemanpoet · 11-04-2012, 11:24 AM

In post # 235, is the "she" referred to, Mithrellas? It's a little hard to tell.

If I understand correctly, we need to bring everyone back to Marigold now, right? I'll figure that's right. After all, why else bring the horses all the way around? I'll write a post of travel soon.

piosenniel · 05-20-2015, 11:37 AM

Is this RPG ready to be moved to Elvenhome? Or???????

mark12_30 · 06-01-2015, 08:15 PM

Elempi, for "What's next" see this thread posts 928 and 929 (just on this page a bit upward.) Erebemlin needs to return to Marigold, most of the rest need to return home, and Mellondu needs to remain broken (what is his Frodo-sails-west parallel? Does Taitheneb adopt him for a few years ? Hmm, what do you think?)

Mellondu & Mellonin' s parents need to somehow resolve.

Maybe the whole thing needs an epilogue.

littlemanpoet · 06-02-2015, 04:44 AM

"Bump" acknowledged.

I will need time to reorient back to this story. We shall see this done this time.

Mellondu needs a journey with a goal that resolves his brokenness. It could come much later in life, but if Taitheneb is willing, the question is, is Mellondu willing? Wouldn't he rather be with Mellonin?

mark12_30 · 06-04-2015, 04:59 AM

Is he more Mellondu the blacksmith or is he forsaken-Amroth-without Nimrodel? He got used to the allegiance and devotion of Erebemlin and Taitheneb, even as he resented it. Ravion he hasn't bonded with as much, and Ravion will be Mellonin' s New focus. She still loves Mellondu, of course, but he may feel skittish and in-the-way around the pair.

I'm not sure. Maybe he remains in Gondor and dreams of the departed elves to the end of his days. Or maybe he goes with them for a while, but the forests are silent, and Amroth and Nimrodel are gone, and their sadness does him little good. Or maybe he becomes the focus of their healing because they realize what he went through.

I envision the epilogue to be a sort of C. S. Lewis epilogue, wrapping up the details in a fairly brusque fashion, like the Gamba epilogue I wrote for The Lonely Star.

littlemanpoet · 06-04-2015, 05:52 PM

So is it that Mellondu essentially got taken over, body and soul? If so, then any Mellondu that is still there is severely damaged, not unlike Frodo because of the Ring. That's my thinking.

Or, if Amroth merely borrowed him, and Mellondu never was overwhelmed by the Elf's personality, then you have a different situation. Your call.

If Mellondu can recover, then I think that he will need both Mellonin and Ravion.

I think I like the idea of a brusque wrap up.

mark12_30 · 06-04-2015, 07:30 PM

Mellondu started out as a willing volunteer and eager participant, until he grew tired of being taken for granted by Amroth (on the one hand) and then wanted Nimrodel to love him (Mellondu) for his own sake. Then he rebelled, and resisted Amroth, and it became a struggle for control. Some bargaining was involved, agreements were misunderstood on both sides (we heard /saw only hints of that) and in the end it was uncivil between the two. Nimrodel brought an uneasy truce.

Mellondu is heartbroken and disillusioned,on one hand, and on the other hand knows what he put Amroth through and how his subjects loved him. He has a hard time looking Erebemlin and Taitheneb in the eye.

Perhaps Erebemlin and Taitheneb take him under their wings for a year or two, and teach him some (proprietary) elvish skills, and then Taitheneb sails west and Erebemlin disappears with Marigold, and Mellonin returns home. Maybe he serves with Legolas planting trees in the city. Or helps Gimli repair Osgiliath and Minas Tirith.

05-20-2015, 11:37 AM	#2
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Is this RPG ready to be moved to Elvenhome? Or??????? __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-01-2015, 08:15 PM	#3
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Elempi, for "What's next" see this thread posts 928 and 929 (just on this page a bit upward.) Erebemlin needs to return to Marigold, most of the rest need to return home, and Mellondu needs to remain broken (what is his Frodo-sails-west parallel? Does Taitheneb adopt him for a few years ? Hmm, what do you think?) Mellondu & Mellonin' s parents need to somehow resolve. Maybe the whole thing needs an epilogue. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

06-04-2015, 04:59 AM	#5
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Is he more Mellondu the blacksmith or is he forsaken-Amroth-without Nimrodel? He got used to the allegiance and devotion of Erebemlin and Taitheneb, even as he resented it. Ravion he hasn't bonded with as much, and Ravion will be Mellonin' s New focus. She still loves Mellondu, of course, but he may feel skittish and in-the-way around the pair. I'm not sure. Maybe he remains in Gondor and dreams of the departed elves to the end of his days. Or maybe he goes with them for a while, but the forests are silent, and Amroth and Nimrodel are gone, and their sadness does him little good. Or maybe he becomes the focus of their healing because they realize what he went through. I envision the epilogue to be a sort of C. S. Lewis epilogue, wrapping up the details in a fairly brusque fashion, like the Gamba epilogue I wrote for The Lonely Star. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

06-04-2015, 07:30 PM	#7
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Mellondu started out as a willing volunteer and eager participant, until he grew tired of being taken for granted by Amroth (on the one hand) and then wanted Nimrodel to love him (Mellondu) for his own sake. Then he rebelled, and resisted Amroth, and it became a struggle for control. Some bargaining was involved, agreements were misunderstood on both sides (we heard /saw only hints of that) and in the end it was uncivil between the two. Nimrodel brought an uneasy truce. Mellondu is heartbroken and disillusioned,on one hand, and on the other hand knows what he put Amroth through and how his subjects loved him. He has a hard time looking Erebemlin and Taitheneb in the eye. Perhaps Erebemlin and Taitheneb take him under their wings for a year or two, and teach him some (proprietary) elvish skills, and then Taitheneb sails west and Erebemlin disappears with Marigold, and Mellonin returns home. Maybe he serves with Legolas planting trees in the city. Or helps Gimli repair Osgiliath and Minas Tirith. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve. Last edited by mark12_30; 06-04-2015 at 07:36 PM.

11-04-2012, 11:24 AM	#1
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	In post # 235, is the "she" referred to, Mithrellas? It's a little hard to tell. If I understand correctly, we need to bring everyone back to Marigold now, right? I'll figure that's right. After all, why else bring the horses all the way around? I'll write a post of travel soon.

06-02-2015, 04:44 AM	#4
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	"Bump" acknowledged. I will need time to reorient back to this story. We shall see this done this time. Mellondu needs a journey with a goal that resolves his brokenness. It could come much later in life, but if Taitheneb is willing, the question is, is Mellondu willing? Wouldn't he rather be with Mellonin?

06-04-2015, 05:52 PM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	So is it that Mellondu essentially got taken over, body and soul? If so, then any Mellondu that is still there is severely damaged, not unlike Frodo because of the Ring. That's my thinking. Or, if Amroth merely borrowed him, and Mellondu never was overwhelmed by the Elf's personality, then you have a different situation. Your call. If Mellondu can recover, then I think that he will need both Mellonin and Ravion. I think I like the idea of a brusque wrap up.