Tapestry of Dreams, Part 2 Discussion - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mark12_30 · 06-12-2008, 05:50 AM

Optomist!! THank you and I'm honored,. However, I'm following my nose, as I always do. As best as I can guess, God writes the eucatastrophes, not me. I just try to follow his leading and not miss 'em. Writing is as much prophetic for me as a church meeting...

I had no idea a balrog was going to land in that last post. Or the circle dance of death. It just happened. When I'm done, I think, huh, look at that.

Remember Forest Gump: "It was funny he said that, because right then!: God Showed Up." My favorite line in the whole movie.

alaklondewen · 06-12-2008, 06:38 AM

You've not lost me. We've had a rough week, but I'm reading daily and waiting for my chance (and time) to jump in.

By the way, Helen, I agree with lmp...your writing lately has been wonderful and moving.

littlemanpoet · 06-12-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mark12_30

I had no idea a balrog was going to land in that last post. Or the circle dance of death. It just happened. When I'm done, I think, huh, look at that.

Huh. I missed the balrog reference until you pointed it out. Very suggestive. "Shadow and flame" should have been enough to clue me in. But that really raises the stakes, to an evil beyond Tharonwë, which, incidentally, I suggested long ago, you may recall; I just gave up on it. So is this balrog in their dreamland, or is their dreamland the spiritual dimension? If so, we've got no Gandalf. Am I flummoxed yet? Well, maybe getting there. Now what?

mark12_30 · 06-12-2008, 04:49 PM

Regarding Roggie: Note that Erebemlin defeated him. It was, essentially, a nightmare. Just a really, really, really bad one, rooted in thousand-year-old fears. Roggie was the reason that they left Lorien, according to Unfinished Tales. Roggie on a Rampage was what the Lorienites all feared. (Eeew, my colloquialisms are uber-colloquializing.) And Nimrodel actually blamed the Noldorim for awakening All Those Shadows. It was why she initially refused to marry Amroth. And Fleeing the Shadow was why they decided to sail west, and then get married and live happily ever after -- somewhere much safer.

Having said that, that's just MY take. Feel free to have all the fun with it that you want, dreamwise. Roggie Revisited???

Alak: thanks. NOw would be a good time for Erebemlin's Reaction to CIrcle Dances, Ash, and Roggie.

Uh-- Dreamland, spritual dimension, or what. I think the answer is, sometimes one, sometimes the other, and sometimes both; Nimrodel is, after all, Mad. SOmetimes she is all wrapped around Pure Illusion. SOmetimes she is blind to Dangerous Truth. And sometimes, just sometimes, she Sees Things. Really.

I guess I would also expect INdil to have, depending on the day, either a bad dream, or a Nassssty VIsion of evil things, or... maybe both. Or neither. And maybe (just maybe) determining all that-- Symbolic VIsion? Deeply ROoted Fear? Manifestation of a Real Demon? Just a Bad Dream? What????-- could give the participants a bit of a headache, and Bafflement.

BUt ministry/counselling is like that.

Regarding Nimrodel, every now and then she might even say something Nice.

You asked (and my dear, beloved husband Keeps Asking) when this thing will be Done. I guess I'm thinking that, at least, each person in the crowd should get a chance (Maybe two, for some individuals) to Play Dead in Nimrodel's dreams, like Nethwador and Liornung already have. To participate in her wild dreams, and get called an oathbreaker or something, and have something of theirs woven (into or out of?) Nimrodel's journey (and Amroth's). To drag all of us through each and every dream or song would take more than I think I have to give. Does that sound unreasonable?

How does that sound?

littlemanpoet · 06-12-2008, 06:41 PM

Roggie? Wherever did you pick that nickname up?

mark12_30 · 06-14-2008, 05:49 AM

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Roggie? Wherever did you pick that nickname up?

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littlemanpoet · 06-14-2008, 07:07 AM

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Ah. I see. There was a "Roggie" in 'Assigned to Mordor I & II' also. I was beginning to think maybe you'd peeked in on that without telling anyone.

As to "larger than life" Raefindan, there's a rule I'm following. I'm modeling him a little after myself, and a little after a what a friend of mine has the strong potential to become. I know that sounds a little crazy, but believe me, this friend actualizes the NT in our day.

That said, "rain making" is not outside the realm of possibility: "'Even the wind and the waves obey him!' they said to one another."

06-12-2008, 05:50 AM	#1
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Optomist!! THank you and I'm honored,. However, I'm following my nose, as I always do. As best as I can guess, God writes the eucatastrophes, not me. I just try to follow his leading and not miss 'em. Writing is as much prophetic for me as a church meeting... I had no idea a balrog was going to land in that last post. Or the circle dance of death. It just happened. When I'm done, I think, huh, look at that. Remember Forest Gump: "It was funny he said that, because right then!: God Showed Up." My favorite line in the whole movie. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

06-12-2008, 06:38 AM	#2
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,193	You've not lost me. We've had a rough week, but I'm reading daily and waiting for my chance (and time) to jump in. By the way, Helen, I agree with lmp...your writing lately has been wonderful and moving. __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!

06-12-2008, 04:49 PM	#4
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Regarding Roggie: Note that Erebemlin defeated him. It was, essentially, a nightmare. Just a really, really, really bad one, rooted in thousand-year-old fears. Roggie was the reason that they left Lorien, according to Unfinished Tales. Roggie on a Rampage was what the Lorienites all feared. (Eeew, my colloquialisms are uber-colloquializing.) And Nimrodel actually blamed the Noldorim for awakening All Those Shadows. It was why she initially refused to marry Amroth. And Fleeing the Shadow was why they decided to sail west, and then get married and live happily ever after -- somewhere much safer. Having said that, that's just MY take. Feel free to have all the fun with it that you want, dreamwise. Roggie Revisited??? Alak: thanks. NOw would be a good time for Erebemlin's Reaction to CIrcle Dances, Ash, and Roggie. Uh-- Dreamland, spritual dimension, or what. I think the answer is, sometimes one, sometimes the other, and sometimes both; Nimrodel is, after all, Mad. SOmetimes she is all wrapped around Pure Illusion. SOmetimes she is blind to Dangerous Truth. And sometimes, just sometimes, she Sees Things. Really. I guess I would also expect INdil to have, depending on the day, either a bad dream, or a Nassssty VIsion of evil things, or... maybe both. Or neither. And maybe (just maybe) determining all that-- Symbolic VIsion? Deeply ROoted Fear? Manifestation of a Real Demon? Just a Bad Dream? What????-- could give the participants a bit of a headache, and Bafflement. BUt ministry/counselling is like that. Regarding Nimrodel, every now and then she might even say something Nice. You asked (and my dear, beloved husband Keeps Asking) when this thing will be Done. I guess I'm thinking that, at least, each person in the crowd should get a chance (Maybe two, for some individuals) to Play Dead in Nimrodel's dreams, like Nethwador and Liornung already have. To participate in her wild dreams, and get called an oathbreaker or something, and have something of theirs woven (into or out of?) Nimrodel's journey (and Amroth's). To drag all of us through each and every dream or song would take more than I think I have to give. Does that sound unreasonable? How does that sound? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve. Last edited by mark12_30; 06-12-2008 at 05:07 PM.

06-12-2008, 06:41 PM	#5
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Roggie? Wherever did you pick that nickname up?