Aragorn and Arwen Are NOT RELATED

[Elmo]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Aragorn is actually related to Celeborn in 2 ways (...I think):

1. Celeborn's father, Galadhon, is the son of Thingol's brother Elwe. That makes Celeborn Thingol's ...great nephew?...

2. Celeborn's brother Galathil is the father of Nimloth who is Elwing's mother. I'm not even gonna try to go through all the greats and grands and whatnot of naming the relationship. It is. That's all.

Elwe is Thingol's original name. My namesake Elmo, Elwe's brother, is Celeborn's grandad I think.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Elmo

Elwe is Thingol's original name. My namesake Elmo, Elwe's brother, is Celeborn's grandad I think.

My bad. I meant to write Elmo.

[Elmo]

No probs, I just feel the great Elmo needs more recognition for the deeds he did before he joined the Muppet business.

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by Elmo

Elwe is Thingol's original name. My namesake Elmo, Elwe's brother, is Celeborn's grandad I think.

Originally Posted by Elmo

No probs, I just feel the great Elmo needs more recognition for the deeds he did before he joined the Muppet business.

Although I must say that a "Tickle-Me-Elwe" doll would be quite funny.

[Elmo]

I definitely see a market for a toy that comes out with phrases like

How do ye of uncouth race dare to demand aught of me, Elu Thingol, Lord of Beleriand, whose life began by the waters of Cuiviénen years uncounted ere the fathers of the stunted people awoke?

when you tickle it!

I think we've hit a goldmine here, I'll knock up an email to the Tolkien estate in the morning.

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Elmo

I definitely see a market for a toy that comes out with phrases like
when you tickle it!

I think we've hit a goldmine here, I'll knock up an email to the Tolkien estate in the morning.

If it comes in a LEGO version then it's sold!

I don't know that Aragorn and Arwen would be uncomfortable with being distantly related. I suppose it would depend on whether women in the line that Aragorn's paternal ancestors married were also closely related. The British royal family has those kinds of links many times over, and though I know they're not exactly an amazing endorsement of the point I'm pursuing, it's not really a big problem to marry someone with very distant familial links. Some of the biggest marriage taboos are around marrying brothers/sisters of a dead husband/wife.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

Although I must say that a "Tickle-Me-Elwe" doll would be quite funny.

Coming soon from Melkor-Bradley.

Anyway, how could anyone argue that Aragorn and Arwen were not related, when they recognized the fact themselves?

"Then we are akin from afar. For I am Arwen Elrond's daughter, and am also named Undómiel."

ROTK Appendix A

Even though thousands of years lay separated the two, you'd think Aragorn still would have found the situation pretty uncomfortable

[Alfirin]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Coming soon from Melkor-Bradley.

This sort of reminds me of the time when, due to a mistype, someone who was using their phone to send a message said her was sending it "from the Tuor bus" (captial mine). To which I replied "Really, I didn't know he could drive. Staying on till Gondolin?"