TIG XCIV– WHere the Stars Are Strange (Game thread)

[Galadriel55]

What? No one has done this yet? You bad, bad people, talking about the Alcolyte when there are spies around!

It was Rikae. How do we know she didn't kill Her Who Once Shined Brighter Than The Sun before closing the door again and putting up all that show?

It was Eruhen. Eunuchs are never up to any good.

It was Nog. Hear how he spoke at the palace doors? Must show respect, that one.

It was Inziladun and Boro. They have the means to bribe someone close to the Empress.

It was Lommy. She posted first.

It was Shasta. He's the one who spent a night by the Empress' bedchamber! He could have sneaked in and done the deed anytime during the night.

It was Greenie. Mayhaps she had a really poisonous snake bite Her For Whom The Stars Once Shined. And then stabbed Her, just to make sure, you know.

It was Bom. You never know with them beggars!

It was Sally, Steve, and Nate. They look oh-so-innocent (aka I can't think of a good accusation), but probably they are the most dangerous ones.

It was Pitch and Legate. Is it a coincidence that these two arrive at our Empress' court, and some days later She is murdered?

Lottie is clearly the alcolyte. She's a sorcerer's apprentice. Makes sense, no?

I could not have done the foul deed. If I was the murderer, that would have meant that I foresaw my role in choosing the occupation, which would imply that I'm a Seer. I can't be both spy/wolf and seer at the same time!


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I add my voice to those who prefer not to waste time speculating about the Alcolyte, but there isn't much else to talk about, so what choice do we have, until some better idea enters someone's mind?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Yes, I know I promised to have a break for a while, but now that people came and said something... and it will be just short, I promise.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I see your point.

Mine was merely that I don't think speculation over the Acolyte is all that useful at the moment (though that could change later), and efforts toward finding the wolves should be the focus.

Sure. That was what I gathered. However, as you have seen in my point, it is very nice that you are saying that, but what do you mean by "focus on finding Wolves". Saying "we should be finding Wolves" and finishing the post with that is probably the worst thing one can do. "What you are doing is not exactly what we should be doing, but I am not doing anything else either, I merely dismiss what you are doing but don't do anything new myself." I would therefore urge (if it wasn't clear enough from my previous posts) everyone who says "we shouldn't focus on this and that" not only to say what we should focus on (catching wolves, we ALL know that, of course, once again see what I said in my previous post, what else are we here for? Does anybody seriously think we are here to discuss Acolytes???), but MOST OF ALL to actually DO something, too, and not just talk how things *theoretically* should be done.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

The Acolyte could be something like that one role, what was it...Mythomaniac? Assumes the role of the person he/she "dreamed." If the Acolyte isn't counted in the tally that would make the Acolyte, at the moment, neutral. That is, the Acolyte will be serving his/her own designs for the time being, and until some choice of loyalty comes (if it ever comes).

And just as remark to the subject of the Acolyte, this would actually sound rather logical, out of the things we've mentioned this far.



EDIT: x-ed with Pitch and further

[A Little Green]

Almost did a Kath and forgot we're starting already..

Anyway - I don't think I have much to add to the talk about the acolyte. As Inzil said, it's only speculation at this point - but incidentally, I'm really happy we had it as it cut the banter to a minimum. Legate raised a valid point about Inzil, and Gal's bantery post looks odd between serious ones, but that's more or less all I have at the moment.

[Bom Tombadillo]

*crawls into the discussion by way of wiggling his nose* Alms? Alms for the septuplegic? No? What about the arctophilic? Oh, fine. *grumbles* Stingy [insert obscure Haradrin invective here]. [/IC]

So. I'm two hours later than I expected, but there's not too much chatter yet.

Now. I think all the speculation about the Acolyte is a bit pointless - there's absolutely no way of knowing, yet, what (if any) theory might be correct. That said, G55 is right - there's naught else to talk about, and it might at least lead to something interesting.

On that note, I'm going to disappear until I can think of something interesting myself. *waves*

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Sure. That was what I gathered. However, as you have seen in my point, it is very nice that you are saying that, but what do you mean by "focus on finding Wolves". Saying "we should be finding Wolves" and finishing the post with that is probably the worst thing one can do. "What you are doing is not exactly what we should be doing, but I am not doing anything else either, I merely dismiss what you are doing but don't do anything new myself." I would therefore urge (if it wasn't clear enough from my previous posts) everyone who says "we shouldn't focus on this and that" not only to say what we should focus on (catching wolves, we ALL know that, of course, once again see what I said in my previous post, what else are we here for? Does anybody seriously think we are here to discuss Acolytes???), but MOST OF ALL to actually DO something, too, and not just talk how things *theoretically* should be done.

Yes, I know. All I meant was that, while I don't think the subject of the Acolyte is worthless (if for no other purpose as a conversation starter) it doesn't need to be the focus. The Acolyte discussions can only be taken so far right now.

[Galadriel55]

This looks like the kind of Day One that is spent discussing what should be done on Day Ones.

I know I'm being a hypocrite, since I don't have any better ideas myself. So far nothing of weight arose. I'll post here first thing if I get some innovative thought, I promise.

So far the only thing that stood out even a milimeter for me is the exchange between Zil and Legate. While I understand where both of them are comming from, they are persistent.

Edit: xed since Lottie at #25. Did it really take me that long to write this?

[Eönwë]

Ok, what I don't like is how Inzil managed to change the discussion about the Acolyte into meta-discussion. While the former discussion lets people think about the game ahead and shows people's attitudes now, as well as maybe being interesting to look at in future, this discussion about whether we should discuss it is bad because it's giving everyone a place to hide. Legate replied first, but now everyone's repeating the same thing (which I thought had been general consensus for ages anyway- it was when I last played) about any discussion being better than no discussion.

I'm not saying that Inzil or Legate are bad, but people are too keen to bandwaggon onto that discussion and say nothing of value, while looking active and helpful.

But I'm curious, Zil, what did you have in mind?

edit: fixed grammar

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

This looks like the kind of Day One that is spent discussing what should be done on Day Ones.

When isn't that the Day One?

I have a set-in-stone Day One routine.

1. Make banter and joke about any previous banter that occured before arrival.

2. Comment on game dynamics, and possibly unique situations. Our departed Empress left the Acolyte role vague. While it's rather fruitless to discuss the specifics of the role, it's nice to get some ideas kicking around, and that's really all I've seen from the Acolyte posts. It's a mysterious role, it's begging "hey use me as Day 1 conversation ice breaker!" Like banter posts, it may carry on a bit too long, but there shouldn't be a set schedule. I mean, just because someone comes in later doesn't mean he/she doesn't have the right to share opinions on the Acolyte.

Eventually these types of things, like banter, and discussing an unknown role weave their way out of the focus entirely by themselves. I mean what we were 2 hours into the day, with 4 people having posted, and Inzil was already declaring to move on from the Acolyte talk? As Legate said, great let us stop conversing and kicking around ideas about a mysterious role.

3. Find out who I like/trust. (No one at the moment). Find out who I'd prefer not to be lynched yet (Legate and Inzil top the list). And everyone else is thrown in with not enough of an impression yet/could vote for today.

Like all Day 1s, we leave today without a crippling seer/gifted lynching (and because of these rules, no multi-lynching, please) we'll be ok.

I should also say because the DL doesn't fit my schedule well, I'll most of the time probably have to vote 5-6 hours early. So, whoever is able to keep around at the DL...with double-lynching a factor, please stop this trend of "keep my vote until the last possible second" vote flurry.