Game Thread: TIG XCII - Disaster by the Lake

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Galadriel, please answer a question for me.

Are you an ordo? Or do you have a specific role? Please don't say which one, and of course don't expect me to necessarily believe you, but answer nonetheless.

What kind of question is this? We're all ordos here, remember? It's just that some of us secretly aren't, and they won't tell you about it. I'm just as ordinary as you are, or seem, or try to seem. And if you're sensible you wouldn't pay too much attention to that last sentence, because everyone would tell you that, regardless of role.

What exactly is the point of your question? And what did you expect for an answer?

And I smell something in your post. If you ask a person to tell you if they have a special role, you might as well ask which one. Like it helps anyone if it's kept quiet. Why does your post alarm me so much? (rhetorical question)




Anyways. I've skimmed the thread and found nothing extraordinary (no pun intended) about our deceased shepherd - may he rest in peace - except that he suspected Kit strongly enough to vote her, but gave her a pass for RL reasons. I'm not sure that it means anything, but that's that.

Nog, on the other hand, is more clear. I doubt he expects to live through toDay, but time will tell. He could be a wolf trying to look like a cobbler, but this is unlikely since he knew he'd be revealed after Agan's death. An even more unlikely possibility is that he's an innocent who was sure he caught Agancobbler and was impersonating the Seer and killing two hares at the same time (getting rid of the cobbler and protecting the real Seer). The likeliest option is that he's a cobbler who impersonated the Seer who labeled Agan with his own role, thus ensuring his death - but helping the wolves tremendously. And we cannot afford to lose more people.

Looking at the numbers, we have a ratio of 1:1:1 of ordos to wolves to gifteds. We have 1/3 chance of lynching either one. We have to choose very carefully toDay.

[Galadriel55]

ToDay I will just pretend to be deaf to his posts and try my best to ignore his comments. If he's serving for the evil side (which I'm almost 100% sure he is) he'll try to use all kinds of tricks on us before he dies (if he dies, but he'll use them either way), and personally I don't want my mind muddled with reverse psychology and associations and whatnot from him. He sure knows how to confuse people. I don't want to be led around by him to a wrong direction.

[satansaloser2005]

"Let me tell you what's been going on- No, there's too much, it would take too long. Let me distill it for you."

We have nine villagers remaining. Those villagers are:

Shasta
Bom
Nog
Sally
Galadriel
Greenie
Kitanna
Loslote
Nerwen

Among those villagers are the following:

Three werewolves
One seer
One ranger
One hunter
Two ordos

I think our best option four toDay is, well, the obvious.

Massive reveals, everyone? If so, I'd be happy to start (or rather, finish).

[Nerwen]

I don't know, Sally– I'd say we could end up with a nasty mess of competing reveals. There's still four baddies around.

[satansaloser2005]

Kill me, and I can almost assure you there will only be three.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Aaand that would be you following along with your plan, then?

While the reveals could indeed get messy, I'm inclined to support the plan. Maybe I'm biased, since I've only been in one game with any gifted reveals at all and it turned out well, but . . .

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Bom Tombadillo

Aaand that would be you following along with your plan, then?

While the reveals could indeed get messy, I'm inclined to support the plan. Maybe I'm biased, since I've only been in one game with any gifted reveals at all and it turned out well, but . . .

Well, go on then. Be ye ordo or not?

[Nerwen]

Pitch, Day One.

#36.
Is "not convinced of Zil's innocence". Defends G55 against Nogrod, who saw her comments about "Nights" as a possible wolf-slip; points out that he should have kept his thoughts about her giftedness to himself. Finds Zil more suspicious than Lottie. Not worried about Bom; wants to hear more from Kit; finds Shasta and Agan somewhat sneaky and says he will "see" about Shasta; "no read" on Greenie. "sees nothing" pointing to my being a wolf.

Comment: Not a terribly Seerish-looking post, given that the person he most suspects is Zil – but the repeated use of "see" might have been taken as meaning something.


#40.
Mildly defends Zil; dislikes G55's vote, but doesn't find it necessarily wolvish.


#46. Tells Bom his copycat suspicions are themselves suspicious, and wants him to explain why he suspects me. Replying to Zil, who says he "Wants to lynch [Bom] to be on the safe side", says "I have similar feelings about more than one player in this game."


#71.
Admonishes Nog again for his speculations on G55; defends Lottie, is considering voting Nog; also suspects Kit.


#80. Vote-post.

Originally Posted by Pitch

Time for me to count my metaphoric sheep.

I'm actually quite inclined to vote Nog, but I haven't yet digested the recent discussion about him wholly, and I'd rather not do it in the heat of the moment. So I'll stick with my earlier suspicion:

++Zil

Forgetting about G55's vote sounds almost unbelievable enough to be true, but it still smells of retconning, and I'm not happy with his pounce on Nerwen in the first place. Let's find out.

General comments: reading through Pitch's posts, there's a general "vibe" there that I think could be taken as "gifted". If we go from the assumption that the wolves thought he was the Seer, it's a bit difficult to know who his supposed "dream" would have been– I'd say either me, G55, Lottie, Kit or Nog, the latter two as baddies. However, in the end he voted for Zil (innocent).

EDIT:X'd with a host.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by G55

Or you're missing something that at least I consider obvious.

Oh, it's obvious enough what she's claiming to be– I mean, it's gone beyond hinting– but there's a question of why she'd really want to do this now.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I should have broken the ordos out on my first post, but I neglected to do so, for which I apologize.

Remaining:
Three werewolves
One seer
One ranger
One hunter
One cobbler
One ordo

But there's 9 players, not 8. There's 2 ordos and 1 cobbler.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

General comments: reading through Pitch's posts, there's a general "vibe" there that I think could be taken as "gifted". If we go from the assumption that the wolves thought he was the Seer, it's a bit difficult to know who his supposed "dream" would have been– I'd say either me, G55, Lottie, Kit or Nog, the latter two as baddies. However, in the end he voted for Zil (innocent).

I doubt he could have been thought of dreaming Nog - he chose Agan over him yesterDay, when was the perfect chance to lynch him. And if he dreamed Kit, why did he go for Zil? He only mentions her in one post. Same thing with Lottie (well, twice...). Then, I don't think that your reasoning for you and I on the list is entirely correct. Again, the wolves could have thought that he dreamed either me or you, but really - neither of us participated much, and Pitch wasn't the only one who talked a bit about my vote and your IC post. It's not impossible that the wolves thought him Seer based on that, but there are too many ifs.

And I don't feel the "gifted vibe" you talk about - more like an "innocent who's trying his darn best" vibe.

Moreover, even if you accept that the wolves thought Pitch dreamed of one of the 5 people you mention - it one of the five. It's his suspicion list, not his dream.

In other words, I disagree with you that he was thought to be the Seer. More likely he was killed so that the village would think they thought he's the Seer and would try to find clues in his posts that would lead in the wrong direction.

Edit: xed with Nerwen and Sally

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Massive reveals, everyone? If so, I'd be happy to start (or rather, finish).

Judging by this and your

Kill me, and I can almost assure you there will only be three.

Either you're very furry or you're doing exactly as a cobbler should by trying to create mass confusion. Because a round of revealings would do just that.

[satansaloser2005]

“Lynches happen. Every day – don’t they, village?” And now Sally’s voice was stronger as she addressed the group, who one by one heard her words, their vote power still in hand.

The villagers were unsure who to listen to this day, and accusations would soon be flashing in their hands. “Kill the most suspicious,” they all said, advancing.

Sally gave a soft shake of her head. “No,” she corrected. “++Sally.”

It was an odd phrase, and for the moment it brought everyone up short. Besides, what was Sally’s plan this time? Where was the trap? “I don’t think I quite understand that," one of them said.

Sally held her vote still but she was smiling more deeply now. “I’ll be only too delighted to explain.” It was four against the five now. One day left. (There may not even be that. She did not know. He could she know it would work?)

Slowly, carefully, she began to talk....




(And I'm going to make you all wait until my morning for the rest.)