Game Thread: TIG XCII - Disaster by the Lake

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Could have been. I forgot that vote was immediately proceeding.

When you had just commented on G55's vote a paragraph before in the same post? Hmmm.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

When you had just commented on G55's vote a paragraph before in the same post? Hmmm.

Yup. Swing and a miss. That's what comes of posting while not only working, but also listening to an online streaming show about one of my favorite subjects.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Inzil

Oh, right. Questioning a pointed (joking or not) accusation made seemingly out of the blue is quite suspicious.

Um, when it's obviously a joke (as evidenced by the fact that it was made in character), then yes, it's suspicious. And nonchalantly brushing off the fact that it's suspicious with a sarcastic comeback is classic wolf behavior. Thought you ought to know.

[Kath]

I'm here (thanks for the reminder Boro!), but I'm very tired. I'm going to read the thread and vote ... if there's anything to base a vote on so far.

[Kath]

G55, Kitanna and Bom should be the three wolves. One wolf says 'well we could start with silly list posts' but unfortunately they all three did it!

Bom? It's Day 1. Pretend to be the cobbler if you want. As long as you're an innocent not a Gifted then if you end up dying it's protecting Gifteds. Shame for the village if silly behaviour ends up with us lynching an innocent over a wolf though.

G55 votes Nerwen. Well, clearly a random vote. Guess we'll have to hope we see more of her toMorrow.

Inzil's a bit aggressive. 'And you know this how?' to Nerwen, and something previously toward Bom I think.

Agan - kind of agree with her comment on G55 saying only around Nights. Was an odd thing to point out really. Could have just said 'oh no it turns out I'm not really around on the days that are Days', mentioning Nights at all is unnecessary. Could be a hint. But, G55 isn't going to be back toDay, so pass for now.

Lottie and Bom are both using kthxbai. Cobbler to wolf? Wolf to wolf? Totally random?

Nerwen also a bit aggressive, particularly towards Lottie.

Ooh Nog's catch on Inzil is interesting! If Inzil turns out to be a wolf there could be some good leads in there.

Pitch looks good. Or at least, lots of interesting comments. And made me read Agan's post: we are not in the same wolfpack ... suggesting that one of the two is in a wolf pack?

So,

++INZIL
Somewhat aggressive. Still considering Nerwen's 'back-stabbing' comment deeply suspicious despite pretty much everyone else considering it to be a reply to G55 voting for her the post before. If he forgot about G55 voting for her, then he only read half of the post he quoted by Shasta - in which Shasta mentions G55 voting for Nerwen ... this quote coming immediately after another mention of Nerwen's comment being suspicious.

That's it from me toDay.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Kath

++INZIL
Somewhat aggressive. Still considering Nerwen's 'back-stabbing' comment deeply suspicious despite pretty much everyone else considering it to be a reply to G55 voting for her the post before. If he forgot about G55 voting for her, then he only read half of the post he quoted by Shasta - in which Shasta mentions G55 voting for Nerwen ... this quote coming immediately after another mention of Nerwen's comment being suspicious.

Wait a sec! The post by Shasta (I suppose you mean #23) came after Zil's question to Nerwen. D'accord that it should have reminded Zil of the reason for Nerwen's accusation, but he could still genuinely have forgotten it before.

Also, being aggressive per se isn't necessarily evil in WW, is it?

Also also, time constraints OK, but could you decompress your sentences a bit? I think I've figured out what you said in that last paragraph, but it took an effort or two.

About G55's vote, which I just realize I haven't commented on as such - I'm far from happy with it, but at least it's better than a no-vote, if just barely. Why Nerwen, who hadn't even posted at the time? If G55 is a wolf and Nerwen isn't, trying to get rid of a dangerous opponent might be worth it, but there was little chance of that succeeding. Looks very much random indeed to me. I suppose G55 having more time toMorrow is the best we can hope for.

EDIT: x-ed with two Lotties and a Shasta

[Bom Tombadillo]

Originally Posted by Kathwolf

Lottie and Bom are both using kthxbai. Cobbler to wolf? Wolf to wolf? Totally random?

Random for my part. Wolflote can speak for herself.

I'm still suspicious of Nerwolf, though Wolfrod makes some good points about Wolf-zilla. I might vote for either of them (either of Nerwolf or Wolf-zilla, that is). Galadriwolf55 still doesn't seem that terribly suspicious to me, though that opinion is subject to change.

Nobody else stands out to me. Wolfrod is his usual self as far as I know, and nobody else has done/said anything especially interesting, unless I've missed something (entirely possible).

[Shastanis Althreduin]

"Still" suspicious? Interesting, given that so far all you've mentioned re: Nerwen is a polite request to explain why she used the word "backstabbing" in her first IC post.

And are you suspicious of Inzil just because Nogrod says to be, or do you actually have any reasons of your own?

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, I don't know why you haven't realised, Lottie, as he's been exactly like this in every other game.

I haven't played a game in over four months, and I think I've only played with Bom a couple of times.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

and unlike Zil who clearly lets us understand he has played many games with Bom and thus has a personal & experience-based view on Bom's behaviour, Lottie goes on accepting the explanation like that

Acting unusually is one of the clearest signs of someone being evil. Bom's behavior struck me as unusual, but when I was reassured that it was usual for me, I didn't think it worthwhile to continue looking at it as somewhat suspicious.

Originally Posted by Bom Tombadillo

Hmmn. People seem to be getting more worked up than is entirely proper over G55's lack of time, but with so little to go on I guess that's hard to avoid.

I would say it is entirely proper. Her vote was bad (regardless of circumstances requiring it, I don't think anyone can argue that it was in any way good). It was also one of the only things of note to happen yet. I think it would only have been improper if we'd ignored it.

[Pitchwife]

Not only at work but listening to online shows and playing Werewolf at the same time? Crime must be running rampant in Alabama.

I'm not convinced of Zil's innocence at this point, but I'd like to look at some other people as well - for example:

Originally Posted by Nog

If Galadriel were a gifted she wouldn't have then slipped that "I can actually participate a bit more are Nights" -thing. That would be far too reckless. But could she slip it as a wolf? Or is it just an ordo talking things that are not necessarily to the point regarding the game (as ordos have nothing to do by Night)?

Which indeed? Any opinions?
The way I read it, it's most likely Galordriel complaining that she doesn't have time on those days (=Days) where she could actually do something, unlike those (=Nights) where she has more time but nothing to do; to me, this isn't quite as not-to-the-point as you make it sound.
Anyway, thanks for telling the wolves she's not gifted!

As to Zil vs Lottie, I'm not sure how many games Lottie has actually played with Bom - any idea, anyone? If she really had no idea that Bom being weird and suspicious on purpose on Day1's is about as new as me being Mr Agreeable, I'd understand her backing off like this; whereas Zil should have known better than try to get any sense out of Bom on Day1, especially after helping me get lynched for the same thing (among others) last game. I don't see how this makes Lottie more suspicious, and if Zil turns out to be a wolf at some point, I'll be looking hard at Nog.

One thing he said I agree with though, that there was probably a wolf involved somewhere in the early talk toDay. I'd really like Kit to come back and talk some more while I'm online.

Whom else have we got?
Shasta did indeed sound sneaky at the beginning, like Agan said (and munching apples to demonstrate his vegetarianism?); has since gone into combat-mode and zoomed in on Zil, which I happen to agree with. Past games in mind, that should perhaps give me pause, but we'll see.

Bom, the object of that much discussion, has been himself so far and doesn't concern me toDay. This may change, however.

Greenie has so far been the good sensible girl we all know and fear. No read.

Agan has slightly poked some people (Bom, Zil, G55), which I would approve of, if it weren't in such a semi-bantering way; her question to Bom re pretty leather boots has a whiff of wolf waving to the self-revealed cobbler, but a) she would know not to take that reveal at face value, and b) she also does that pretty often as an innocent (as I know too well). No read either.

Nerwen's IC accusation of G55 looks to me like a relaxed reaction to a declaredly random (and most likely throwaway) vote, and her (also IC) reaction to Zil questioning her on it seems to confirm this; either a reasonable innocent or a veeery laid-back wolf who feels she has nothing to fear. I know Nerwen can be both, but at this point I see nothing pointing to the latter.

sally - where is she?

Kath - is here!

(x-ed with Lottie)

EDIT: (and Kath!)

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

The way I read it, it's most likely Galordriel complaining that she doesn't have time on those days (=Days) where she could actually do something, unlike those (=Nights) where she has more time but nothing to do; to me, this isn't quite as not-to-the-point as you make it sound.

I am inclined to agree with you here. Other than the bad vote, I haven't seen anything particularly suspicious about G55 toDay, and haven't quite followed the suspicions other people have voiced about her.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Of course I sound sneaky. I'm a miscreant. Miscreants are almost by definition sneaky. In any case, I have yet to see anything that's telling me not to vote for Inzil - the only other thing I've seen is on Pitch and has to do with something he worded interestingly, so I'm holding judgment on that for now.

[Loslote]

I've got to go (I have a netball game to go play ) but I'll be back probably an hour and a half before DL.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Not only at work but listening to online shows and playing Werewolf at the same time? Crime must be running rampant in Alabama.

Ah, it's nice to feel the love. You'd be amazed what can be accomplished from a computer nowadays.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

I'm not sure how many games Lottie has actually played with Bom - any idea, anyone? If she really had no idea that Bom being weird and suspicious on purpose on Day1's is about as new as me being Mr Agreeable, I'd understand her backing off like this; whereas Zil should have known better than try to get any sense out of Bom on Day1, especially after helping me get lynched for the same thing (among others) last game. I don't see how this makes Lottie more suspicious, and if Zil turns out to be a wolf at some point, I'll be looking hard at Nog.

I know Bom is Bom. Doesn't mean I don't want to lynch him sometimes just to be on the safe side.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Shasta did indeed sound sneaky at the beginning, like Agan said (and munching apples to demonstrate his vegetarianism?); has since gone into combat-mode and zoomed in on Zil, which I happen to agree with. Past games in mind, that should perhaps give me pause, but we'll see.

Shasta's last post bizarrely has me feeling all right about him at the moment.

x/d with Bom