Game Thread: TIG XCII - Disaster by the Lake

[Nerwen]

*rings handbell*

Oyez! Oyez! Good people of Esgaroth, honoured guests from the Mountain and Forest, and all travellers from near and far! Be known that Galadriel55 is a sneaking, backstabbing wretch! Let none sample her cooking!

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Cobbler? He doesn't look any more cobblerish than usual. (Not taking into account, of course, that his occupation is "cobbler" - but I think we should forget that before somebody, somewhere, gets confused.) Seriously now, I don't think we can deduce much anything from Bom's posts this far since they have not, at least in my opinion, differed in any remarkable way of the way he plays whatever his role.

I agree. Bom's doing his standard "suspicious innocent" deal, which can as always be taken many ways.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Thanks G55 for listening to my "flood the thread with incriminating evidence" statement! /sarcasm

I'm going to go out a limb and say her random vote was probably decided by metagaming. I can't say I like what she did, but on the other hand, I came close to having to do the same thing. There doesn't seem to be much more to say on the subject. She voted for someone who hasn't spoken and she won't be back to make a more informed vote.

It's tough to call G55's vote, with so little to go on. Convenient for a baddie, but also understandable for a time-pressed innocent.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

*rings handbell*

Oyez! Oyez! Good people of Esgaroth, honoured guests from the Mountain and Forest, and all travellers from near and far! Be known that Galadriel55 is a sneaking, backstabbing wretch! Let none sample her cooking!

Really? And you know this for what reason?

[Aganzir]

So sorry if I am not concentrating properly, A Little Green is sitting in my lap and fondling me. Also, just so that the rest of you know it as well, she and I are not in the same wolfpack (which means that we will spend the game at each other's throats).

Originally Posted by Bom Tombadillo

*ahem* Reveals please. [joke]I am the cobbler[/joke]. Would the wolves please come forward? Kthxbai.

Hi Cob. If I asked, would you make me a pair of pretty leather boots?

Originally Posted by Inziladun

And Bom, are you trying to look suspicious?

Probably. Are you trying to signal to him?

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

It just happens so that all the days that I can actually participate a bit more are Nights.

What's the point of saying this if you are not going to participate in the night scheming?

Shasta sounds sneaky.

I'll be back later with more content - now I am going to employ my artistic skills for the benefit of those Downers who dare give their home addresses to us sweet and innocent Finns.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Cobbler? He doesn't look any more cobblerish than usual. (Not taking into account, of course, that his occupation is "cobbler" - but I think we should forget that before somebody, somewhere, gets confused.) Seriously now, I don't think we can deduce much anything from Bom's posts this far since they have not, at least in my opinion, differed in any remarkable way of the way he plays whatever his role.

I don't think I've played with him enough yet - I didn't realize this was standard Bom. Never mind, then.

As for G55, I've done the same thing as an innocent and as a wolf, so I can't really draw any conclusions based on that vote, much as I'd like to.

Now someone else do something exciting and controversial so we can spend the rest of the Day bickering over that, kthzbai.

[Nogrod]

Normal to him or not, jumping all around the place calling himself the cobbler is at best adding to the confusion. At worst it is a decent place to hide for a wolf or a way for a cobbler to signal the wolfsies (if he is not lynched the theory is verified whether he is a wolf, a cobbler or something else).

So even if I see what Greenie and some others say, I'm not going to let Bom slip by just for that being "normal" to him.

That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him just for that. It will depend on his later posting and on what others do meanwhile.


So I'm joining the group who say the Day is not the best one for me: I'm off to do some homework and then going to a concert. But I'll be back for some time later on the Day (with +2 GMT I need to vote 2-3 hours before the DL).


Any other thoughts after a quick skimming through the thread?

If Galadriel were a gifted she wouldn't have then slipped that "I can actually participate a bit more are Nights" -thing. That would be far too reckless. But could she slip it as a wolf? Or is it just an ordo talking things that are not necessarily to the point regarding the game (as ordos have nothing to do by Night)?

A lot of sillyness in general - which is not bad if it is accompanied by some more sensible stuff (which I do find wanting more or less). So very little to go forth with.

I'll try to get back before I'll leave for the concert and hope I can say something more substantial to claim my right to whine about so few real contributions to the game so far.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Really? And you know this for what reason?

Clearly you haven't seen the state of her kitchen.

Originally Posted by Lottie

I don't think I've played with him enough yet - I didn't realize this was standard Bom. Never mind, then.

Well, I don't know why you haven't realised, Lottie, as he's been exactly like this in every other game.

Originally Posted by Agan

Probably. Are you trying to signal to him?

Hmmn. You know, I'm guessing Boro would actually avoid making the cobbler, well, the cobbler.

EDIT:X'd with Nog; messed up quotes.

[Bom Tombadillo]

M'back! A bit ahead of schedule, though not for long.

Finally, somebody realized that joking is standard for me. I've got naught else to do early Day 1 - could fling accusations and see who jumps, but flinging jokes is more fun.

@Nerwen: Or it might appeal to his sense of humor to make the cobbler the cobbler. Not that I'm saying I'm the cobbler or anything, even though I am . . . aw, exprolentarinoquate it all. WOLVES, TO ME!

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Inzil

Really? And you know this for what reason?

Only suspicious thing I've seen thus far.

Kind of want to vote G55 (how dare she vote my jewel!) but will likely vote Inzil unless I see something else even more suspicious.

-Grabs another apple-

No, I'm not paying. I'm a notable miscreant, remember? It's kind of what we do.

[Nogrod]

Okay. I was thinking of making the long-forgotten Devil's Advocate view on everyone but I'm afraid I'm not having enough time for that right now. I mean sometimes things like that can kick a game forward and this one clearly is stalling in a major way.

But I'll throw out something I have time for...


It is interesting we have three people sending silly lists to begin the game - and those people are also the most vocal ones thereafter... If I was a wolf with a bold team we could do something like that just to have fun with it. So Kit, Galadriel and Bom?

Probably not. But then again I'd be surprised if they all are goodies... I just don't think that general air there is free from foul.



A bit more promising thing...

Inzil goes first for Bom making this "are you trying to look suspicious?" -thing, but after Greenie makes a strongish point for that being within the normal-Bomness, he goes to:

Originally Posted by Zilliacus

I agree. Bom's doing his standard "suspicious innocent" deal, which can as always be taken many ways.

Something there alerts my "careful-agreement-radar"... I mean somehow the way he used Bom to make a question and the way he discarded with it by saying "yeah, we all know it's his standard behaviour" just looks whimsy.

In the same vein Lottie also raises my eyebrows for stepping back from Bom, and unlike Zil who clearly lets us understand he has played many games with Bom and thus has a personal & experience-based view on Bom's behaviour, Lottie goes on accepting the explanation like that - and deciding the thing is settled:

Originally Posted by Lottie

I didn't realize this was standard Bom. Never mind, then.

Something in the way she phrases that makes me uneasy as well. It's too easy, too... kind of "it doesn't matter" (as long as none suspects us wolves" or something like that).

Between Zil & Lottie I'd say Lottie is the more suspicious, but that's not very much as yet.


Blah. I have to go now. I hoped I'd have time to look at you others as well, but no can do.

Back later.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And you are not reaching when you say Lottie meant "never mind that particular point against that person".

She said "never mind, then". And to me that reads like "I'll drop the suspicion", not "I'm watching him closely but will dismiss this particualr suspicion".

Really? Because that is what I meant, more or less. I could hardly have raised one point against someone - and a ridiculously weak point at that, more Day 1 nothing-else-to-go-on speculation than anything - and then, when brought to the realization that that point is invalid, gone ahead and decided that that person could never ever possibly be a wolf based solely on the invalidation of the one point. I mean, really.

EDIT: Xed with Agan