WW LXXXIX: The Terror of Tol Fuin

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

People prominent in Nerwen's posts:

• Thinlómien:
  • 196: That part at the bottom reveals a smidgen of doubt about Lommy.
  • 211: The doubt is repeated, but it remains a smidgen (due to her caveat at the end.)
  • 266: Mentions the possibility of accidental Fenris fratricide, but reiterates that she's not 'getting any particular guilty vibes off Lommy right now'.
  
  
• Bom Tombadillo:
  • 275: Welcomes him back, hangs a lampshade on his 'throwaway' vote.
  • 287: Rules out Bom + Kit.
  • 292: Repeats her doubts regarding Bom's vote.
  
  
• Galadriel55:
  • 196: Logical exculpation of G55 due to her 'connexion' with Loslote.
  • 264: Considers a possible Eomer-Kit-Loslote trio of baddies, due to Eomer's focus on Sally and G55, ostensibly 'to steer the discussion away from Kit'. But once again she adds a caveat at the end. [Prudence is the new patience! ]
  
  
• satansaloser2005:
  • 196: I don't know if she's saying anything about Sally's guilt or not, since parts of the post hangs on the assumption that she's a baddie with Lottie.
  • 264: This one hangs on the assumption that she's innocent and a shooting target of an evil Eomer. Meh, Nerwen comes to no conclusion about Sally.

Okay, so Lommy kinda looks bad now--all the caveats Nerwen had appended seems to be just like full stops for her sentences, heh. Bom has been attacked on the basis of his vote, so nothing jumps out there. G55 has been defended well enough, so if she had been an attempted Seer-kill them baddies probably thought either she or Lommy (or both) had been a dream target.

(Btw it's cool how nobody save for a two-words-Sally has shown up. Soon I shall flood this DAY with my thoughts and you shall follow me to your doom! DOOM!!!)

Dream on.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

People prominent in Nerwen's posts:
[*]Galadriel55:

• 196: Logical exculpation of G55 due to her 'connexion' with Loslote.
• 264: Considers a possible Eomer-Kit-Loslote trio of baddies, due to Eomer's focus on Sally and G55, ostensibly 'to steer the discussion away from Kit'. But once again she adds a caveat at the end. [Prudence is the new patience! ]

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Okay, so Lommy kinda looks bad now--all the caveats Nerwen had appended seems to be just like full stops for her sentences, heh. Bom has been attacked on the basis of his vote, so nothing jumps out there. G55 has been defended well enough, so if she had been an attempted Seer-kill them baddies probably thought either she or Lommy (or both) had been a dream target.

It would be very bold of a wolf to outline the reason for the night kill so soon on the next day, but Nilp is either doing just that or is unlucky enough to have stumbled upon the same tracks.

G55 'exculpated' by Nerwen's slaying indeed!

Your interpretation of the Nerwen-Lommy relationship looks like you're trying to shoehorn your 'go after Lommy' agenda where it's not wanted.

And you are making me wonder if Sally might be innocent after all!

[Mithalwen]

Don't get carried away there Eomer, there are limits to plausibility.

In retrospect, Nerwen's comments yesterday wondering why Shasta looked Seerish to the wolves and saying she hadn't reckoned that the Seer might not be the wolves top priority might indicate that her own priority was working out the Seer not the wolves - which is the proper function of the Ranger.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Legate, I am quite simply Kath to your Mormegil: in every game you suspect me! You need to realise that it's the way I post, and has nothing to do with my role.

Really, do I? May be so; in general I know you haven't been in that many games in which I was playing. I at least remember how you behaved when you were a Wolf together with me, which I think was the first game in which we played together. Of course you have a certain kind of behavior or tone which is common to your posts whichever role you might have, but it just seems to me...

Anyway, the stuff at hand now: I went through Nerwen's posts, and as far as I am concerned, I can't find anything that would look Seer-ish or Ranger-ish or whatnot. I am really inclined to believe that she was killed just simply because the WWs thought she won't be protected and all that, with the possibility that she was going after one of them as well.

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Don't get carried away there Eomer, there are limits to plausibility.

In retrospect, Nerwen's comments yesterday wondering why Shasta looked Seerish to the wolves and saying she hadn't reckoned that the Seer might not be the wolves top priority might indicate that her own priority was working out the Seer not the wolves - which is the proper function of the Ranger.

Limits to plausibility, indeed. The thing Mith says here seems a bit complicated to me, or a bit overanalysed. Are you sure you haven't thought of that together with your packmates at Night?

Unrelated to analysing Nerwen, I have found one thing among what she had said which I consider rather clever and worth mentioning - it is related to possible connections of Lottie to G55 (we still have the stuff that G55 was the only one whom Lottie really suspected or spoke about in general on Day 1):

Originally Posted by Nerwen

It's perhaps more likely Wolflote would go strongly after a newbie comrade than Sallywolf, simply because Lottie tends to be very pessimistic about her own chances of survival– she might have reasoned that ione or other of them would probably die early anyway, and thus that a real wolf-on-wolf attack was the best bet. All the same, it's most unusual for a wolf to give herself no other option but voting a comrade.

Left to ponder.

EDIT: x-ed with one Eo

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, several things:

The Kitwagon yesterDay - did seriously nobody at least stop to wonder that it is rather weird how huge and matter-of-factly smooth it has become? As in, I can see people voting for Kit, but I wonder if any of you had ever re-read her posts, or if it was just a spontaneous "let's go!" stuff. I have been wondering about her myself by the start of the Day, but after I managed to reread her posts, it really didn't seem that horrible - there surely were better candidates.

Second, the obvious question, why Nerwen? I don't recall her posting anything specifically Ranger-ish, and Seer-ish, well, that would have to be determined - I don't recall, but it would be worth looking if she didn't say something specific about Lottie on the first Day or such (but she hadn't been around much). I haven't read through her posts yet, I am now just acting based on memory; I think that should be done, however. I am not sure if Nilp, despite announcing that he will attempt it, actually managed to find any response to his question, or then it is phrased in such a way that I can't read it there.

As for other stuff, I would now still very much like to see Bom and have him recount what he was thinking when voting and if he had read the thread before it. To recapitulate, I find it extremely weird to vote Kitanna and say that it's a throwaway, even if he thought it was DL. It can be totally genuine, but it can also be a Wolf genuinely thinking it is DL and excusing himself for a throwaway vote. Anyway, it's just so random.

Now I share Eomer's concern about Nilp, however, I don't cease being wary of Eomer himself - and his rather quick jump on Nilp by the start of toDay makes me wonder about possible ulterior motives in there.

I need to re-read stuff. My basic premise about Nerwen's death would be that she was either a person who didn't look likely to be protected (and possibly, as a bonus, thought to be dangerously clever) or that she simply suspected one or more of the Wolves and was thought a person who didn't look likely to be protected. I am really not thinking, at least on first sight, that she would give off any particularly Gifted vibes.

EDIT: x-ed with Mith. People start to appear, it seems.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Your interpretation of the Nerwen-Lommy relationship looks like you're trying to shoehorn your 'go after Lommy' agenda where it's not wanted.

Actually Nilp, it's weird. You defended Lommy three times yesterday but today you're saying she "kinda looks bad now" because..... because Nerwen wasn't sure about her?

That's strange, even for you.